The one that got away -- CC

[j66kicker]

perhaps it's the fact that Aston was successful in her efforts while the recruit was going through some difficult external circumstances...I don't go way, way back with UConn.......has Geno ever "swayed" a recruit that had already verballed to another school?

Well... Charli Collier fits that description.

 

[MilfordHusky]

I cut Charli some slack because of her father's death and Hurricane Harvey's devastation to parts of her home town. I would have liked her at UConn, but I recognize her departure may have affected recruiting. Did it help us get Olivia and put us in better shape with Aliyah or Hannah Gusters? Maybe. Who knows?!

 

[JoePgh]

it's actually a very timely discussion as Collier's decommitment led to ONO's successful recruitment while still leaving room for Boston....it would be quite a coup indeed if UConn gets both and much of it because Collier went elsewhere...

What is the factual basis for your presumption that ONO would not have come to UConn if Charli Collier had come? Or that Boston would not come, for that reason? Unless ONO and/or Boston have actually said that was a consideration in their decisions, it is pure speculation to think that it was, and therefore (IMHO) inappropriate.

 

[BobbyJ]

perhaps it's the fact that Aston was successful in her efforts while the recruit was going through some difficult external circumstances...I don't go way, way back with UConn.......has Geno ever "swayed" a recruit that had already verballed to another school?

Possibly? Probably? After Collier had verballed to Texas he got her to go up to UConn where he offered her and two months later she verballed to UConn. Like I said, these coaches never stop until it's over. Like the mob says, it's just business.

 

[pvdoggy]

Possibly? Probably? After Collier had verballed to Texas he got her to go up to UConn where he offered her and two months later she verballed to UConn. Like I said, these coaches never stop until it's over. Like the mob says, it's just business.

Uconn fan should let this go, but if you can't help yourself talking about this, perhaps you should get your facts straight of the timeline before making false statement.

 

[BobbyJ]

Uconn fan should let this go, but if you can't help yourself talking about this, perhaps you should get your facts straight of the timeline before making false statement.

If the timeline is different than this why don’t you tell me what it is.

 

[shizam]

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It takes guts to decommit to UConn.

 

[shizam]

What is the factual basis for your presumption that ONO would not have come to UConn if Charli Collier had come? Or that Boston would not come, for that reason? Unless ONO and/or Boston have actually said that was a consideration in their decisions, it is pure speculation to think that it was, and therefore (IMHO) inappropriate.

I think his factual basis is it’s common sense to think if a top player in the same position committed it may lessen the percentages of signing another equally top player at that same position. It sure lessens more than increases the chances in most instances.

 

[Charliebball]

Well... Charli Collier fits that description.

is there any evidence that UConn was speaking to Collier during the time she was still verbally committed to Texas.............isn't it just as possible if not probable that they only spoke with her once she decommitted?

 

[Charliebball]

What is the factual basis for your presumption that ONO would not have come to UConn if Charli Collier had come? Or that Boston would not come, for that reason? Unless ONO and/or Boston have actually said that was a consideration in their decisions, it is pure speculation to think that it was, and therefore (IMHO) inappropriate.

purely speculation on my part................isn't speculation pretty much what we do here on a daily basis? I'd like to think it's speculation based on some common sense..................do you think that Boston would be more or less likely to sign with UConn if Charlie Collier has already solidified her spot on the team? Same for ONO...........not saying that it couldn't happen but the odds are certainly greater then they would have been otherwise..........

 

[OoImFancy]

Do you guys see Collier or Sedona staying at Texas all four years or transferring? They’ll be fighting for minutes and the starting spot. However, Sedona will come off the bench next season due to the injury sustained. I’m really curious to see how this plays out.

 

[j66kicker]

is there any evidence that UConn was speaking to Collier during the time she was still verbally committed to Texas...isn't it just as possible if not probable that they only spoke with her once she decommitted?

No evidence and he probably wasn't, just being a smart-ass and pointing out that, technically, CC qualifies for, "...has Geno ever "swayed" a recruit that had already verballed to another school?"

Whole episode a good reminder for Geno that you get what you ask for (if you go after fickle, you get fickle, etc.).

 

[Charliebball]

No evidence and he probably wasn't, just being a smart-ass and pointing out that, technically, CC qualifies for, "...has Geno ever "swayed" a recruit that had already verballed to another school?"

Whole episode a good reminder for Geno that you get what you ask for (if you go after fickle, you get fickle, etc.).

I believe that Sedona Prince verballed to Texas when she was in 7th or 8th grade and then changed her mind only to recommit later on.............can't remember when Collier first verballed

 

[jaundicedeye]

Why are you so convinced that Karen continued to recruit her after her verbal to UCONN?
Seems a rather harsh accusation without an iota of proof.

Hardly qualifies as a "harsh accusation" given that it is commonly done and not against the rules.
Do you think that might be a little harsh on your part?

 

[BobbyJ]

is there any evidence that UConn was speaking to Collier during the time she was still verbally committed to Texas...isn't it just as possible if not probable that they only spoke with her once she decommitted?

No, UConn would not have spoken directly to her unless she initiated the call. However, they could send her mail and I believe contact her coach. When she decided to take an unofficial visit at her own cost to UConn they were then obviously allowed to speak with her and interact with her on campus. That's when she was offered a scholarship. Two months later she verbally committed to UConn and you know the rest.

 

[BobbyJ]

I believe that Sedona Prince verballed to Texas when she was in 7th or 8th grade and then changed her mind only to recommit later on...can't remember when Collier first verballed

Collier verballed to Texas in Oct 2013 as an 8th grader, the first to do that of the class of 2018 according to Yahoo Sports article of Oct. 18, 2013.

 

[donalddoowop]

Do you guys see Collier or Sedona staying at Texas all four years or transferring? They’ll be fighting for minutes and the starting spot. However, Sedona will come off the bench next season due to the injury sustained. I’m really curious to see how this plays out.

The Boneyard frowns on speculation about players transferring whether it be a UConn player or a player on another team.

 

[Charliebball]

Collier verballed to Texas in Oct 2013 as an 8th grader, the first to do that of the class of 2018 according to Yahoo Sports article of Oct. 18, 2013.

Prince first verballed in 2014, decommitted and then recommitted in 2016

 

[Charliebball]

Do you guys see Collier or Sedona staying at Texas all four years or transferring? They’ll be fighting for minutes and the starting spot. However, Sedona will come off the bench next season due to the injury sustained. I’m really curious to see how this plays out.

they've played with and against each other for years and know exactly what they are getting into together..........

 

[j66kicker]

The Boneyard frowns on speculation about players transferring whether it be a UConn player or a player on another team.

I don't think the Boneyard gives a rip about speculating on potential transfers on other teams. I see it all the time.

 

[CocoHusky]

Hardly qualifies as a "harsh accusation" given that it is commonly done and not against the rules.
Do you think that might be a little harsh on your part?

Very harsh on my part specifically because of what you stated "it is commonly done, not against the rules but most importantly no proof that it was done in the first place & posted here as a fact repeatedly: "Aston never relented from recruiting her even after CC verballed".
A simple" I don't think "if front of that statement and I would not have been as harsh.

 

[Shorty Dee]

The sequence of events does not support this theory:
April 2016 Charli Collier's father passed away.
October 2016 on First Night Charli visited UCONN and was extended an offer.
December 2016 Charli Accepts UCONN offer and verbally commits.
August of 2017 Hurricane Harvey devastated Huston.
September 2017 Charli decommits from UCONN.
October 2017 on her birthday Charli recommits to Texas.
Charli visited UCONN and verbally committed after her father's death. Charli decommitted from UCONN after Hurricane Harvey. BTW Charli is not exactly playing at "home" she is playing at UT which is more than 3 hours from her home.

I went by what I read, so I do apologize if this information was incorrect.

 

[donalddoowop]

I don't think the Boneyard gives a rip about speculating on potential transfers on other teams. I see it all the time.

I don't think the Boneyard gives a rip about speculating on potential transfers on other teams. I see it all the time.

That is not what the moderators say. Ask Husky Nan.

 

[j66kicker]

That is not what the moderators say. Ask Husky Nan.

The "rules" aren't specific to UConn, and would seem to be as you say.

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That's certainly not how it's enforced, though.

 

[CocoHusky]

Outside of the New England and Mid-Atlantic states, 3 hours by car is not considered far to travel.

Solid points. Let me add some context to those 3 hours.
"I want my family to be able to watch me play, and I want to watch my brother grow and play high school football.
No. 2 prospect Charli Collier wants to stay close to home and play for Texas Longhorns
The first part of that sentence makes a lot sense. Parents will gladly drive 3 hours to see their kids play even if in NE ( I did twice & sometimes 3 times that). Danni Williams parents drove from New Mexico to TA&M and never missed a game in 3 years as an Aggie.
The second part of the sentence does not make sense. By going to Texas Charli Collier is not going to get
to see her little brother play. When people say that Charli stayed home to play college ball I say, no she did not. Home for Charli Collier would have been University of Houston. TA&M is also closer to her home by 1.5 hours than UT.

 

[CocoHusky]

I went by what I read, so I do apologize if this information was incorrect.

No need to apologize. I also was originally incorrect, until I was corrected by a post by @oldude.

 

[Charliebball]

I understand why the power's that be don't want UConn players discussed when it comes to transfers...............if somebody wonders whether a player on Louisville or Baylor for instance may be crowded out by multiple recruits and limited scholarships, I'm not sure why there's an issue.............perhaps it's the "Booster" thing..............I do know that those discussions go on all the time on others school's boards without apparent repercussion..........

 

[Charliebball]

Solid points. Let me add some context to those 3 hours.
"I want my family to be able to watch me play, and I want to watch my brother grow and play high school football.
No. 2 prospect Charli Collier wants to stay close to home and play for Texas Longhorns
The first part of that sentence makes a lot sense. Parents will gladly drive 3 hours to see their kids play even if in NE ( I did twice & sometimes 3 times that). Danni Williams parents drove from New Mexico to TA&M and never missed a game in 3 years as an Aggie.
The second part of the sentence does not make sense. By going to Texas Charli Collier is not going to get
to see her little brother play. When people say that Charli stayed home to play college ball I say, no she did not. Home for Charli Collier would have been University of Houston. TA&M is also closer to her home by 1.5 hours than UT.

Maybe she should have said I want to stay near home and win............

 

[WiseOne]

It takes guts to decommit to UConn.

It also takes guts to commit to UCONN!