The Official 2025 New York Giants Thread

[Edward Sargent]

Even UConn has kickers my god, however it's on the defense and coaching. Well thank god for Jim Mora.

Jim Mora would look nice running the Giants

 

[superjohn]

 

[HitDog]

The FG kicker cost them 4 pts. He misses 2xp and then the Giants failed a 2 pt conversion after the 3rd TD because they didn't trust FG kicker, unfacking believeable.
The weak ass defense should not be allowed on the plane either.

To be fair they scored 5 touchdowns so they should have had 35 points. So you really only blame him for 3 points. And also they shouldn’t have gone for 2 but no guarantee he would have made it.

 

[Scoe]

Jim Mora would look nice running the Giants

No no no don't even go there

 

[superjohn]

No no no don't even go there

Don't worry, they won't.

 

[gsmooth]

I had to laugh because it's so true and because Doofy made me laugh so much in that movie.

 

[gsmooth]

To be fair they scored 5 touchdowns so they should have had 35 points. So you really only blame him for 3 points. And also they shouldn’t have gone for 2 but no guarantee he would have made it.

That's true , I should have said 3 points , but damn those 3 points would have made a big difference. Finding a FG kicker that can make extra points should not be so difficult.
I am even more annoyed and disgusted with the defense. 11 orange traffic cones could have provided better defense than the NYG's defense.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

They gave up 33 points in the 4th quarter. Does the kicker have a seat on the plane.

He shouldn't. Daboll and Bowen also shouldn't.

 

[Scoe]

How about the 3rd and 7 from the 19 sure the int is on Dart why would ny you set up a screen pass, the least you do is punt it up and Denver still has to go far with 5 minutes in a 2 score game. The lack of situational awareness is unreal.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Daboll seems clueless as to what the team's strengths and weaknesses are and quite often has little idea as to what the right move is on critical situations. I also think he believes QB's are indestructible. He's behaved this way for as long as he's been here.

We have a bowling ball who loves contact at running back yet he had Dart run on 1st and goal with ~40 seconds left. Problem one on that call is he's going to get Dart killed. Problem two is it wouldn't have been a bad move to take two plays to score, running the clock down to ~10-12 seconds.

I hope ownership is willing to pull the plug on the Daboll experiment. If Schoen resists, show him the door too.

 

[gsmooth]

How about the 3rd and 7 from the 19 sure the int is on Dart why would you set up a screen pass, the least you do is punt it up and Denver still has to go far with 5 minutes in a 2 score game. The lack of situational awareness is unreal.

Oh sure, but that defense was so bad. Can you score 33 points in a quarter playing Tecmo Bowl?
I got flashback nightmares of the loss to Philly were they gave up 28 points in the 4th quarter and Desean Jackson provided the walk off punt return TD. And I got the flashback to the collapse against the Niners in the 2002 playoffs.

 

[superjohn]

Daboll seems clueless as to what the team's strengths and weaknesses are and quite often has little idea as to what the right move is on critical situations. I also think he believes QB's are indestructible. He's behaved this way for as long as he's been here.

We have a bowling ball who loves contact at running back yet he had Dart run on 1st and goal with ~40 seconds left. Problem one on that call is he's going to get Dart killed. Problem two is it wouldn't have been a bad move to take two plays to score, running the clock down to ~10-12 seconds.

I hope ownership is willing to pull the plug on the Daboll experiment. If Schoen resists, show him the door too.

He's a joke, he has no idea what he's doing. Dart gave him the slimmest of breathing room and he's running into the injury tent to get him back in the game, he's sucking up to Mara, and he's willing to get Dart hurt to keep his job.

 

[navery12]

We have a bowling ball who loves contact at running back yet he had Dart run on 1st and goal with ~40 seconds left. Problem one on that call is he's going to get Dart killed. Problem two is it wouldn't have been a bad move to take two plays to score, running the clock down to ~10-12 seconds.

Just to show you how out of touch Daboll was with this mindset, when he thought Dart was stopped short he was sprinting in and calling timeout

 

[Edward Sargent]

Daboll seems clueless as to what the team's strengths and weaknesses are and quite often has little idea as to what the right move is on critical situations. I also think he believes QB's are indestructible. He's behaved this way for as long as he's been here.

We have a bowling ball who loves contact at running back yet he had Dart run on 1st and goal with ~40 seconds left. Problem one on that call is he's going to get Dart killed. Problem two is it wouldn't have been a bad move to take two plays to score, running the clock down to ~10-12 seconds.

I hope ownership is willing to pull the plug on the Daboll experiment. If Schoen resists, show him the door too.

I think Schoen is half the problem!

 

[Ricker]

I gotta say this one actually hurts. 50 sec with a qb making a miraculous score and you can't hold the game vs Dallas and now 40 sec and the defense can't hold up vs Denver. Those 2 situations = another lost season. Can't field a kicker that can make extra points in fair weather? Really?

At 19-0 there were 2 defensive plays where the guys not close to the tackle were jogging and I texted my son and said the defense thinks they have already won the game, and seconds later it was 19-8.

With 5 min left we plunge twice into a stacked box because we want them to use their timeouts. After 2 predictable yards we are 3rd and long and only a hope and prayer from giving them the ball back.

40 sec and you go to a prevent defense and rush 3. Rush 5 so the pressure makes the ball come out short and just make 10 yard tackles that eat up the clock. Instead he has all day to throw and if there isn't a catch there will be a penalty. Prevent defense prevents wins not losses.

This one may stay with me as long as 'the fumble' and Donyell's missed free throws. ugh.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Oh sure, but that defense was so bad. Can you score 33 points in a quarter playing Tecmo Bowl?
I got flashback nightmares of the loss to Philly were they gave up 28 points in the 4th quarter and Desean Jackson provided the walk off punt return TD. And I got the flashback to the collapse against the Niners in the 2002 playoffs.

We Giants fans have a lot of PTSD flashbacks please don’t dig them all up. I’ve been in recovery for a week

 

[Ricker]

NFL teams had won 1,602 consecutive games when leading by 18 points in the final six minutes of a game, per the @NFLonCBS broadcast.

The Giants proved a game can be lost.
Time for a few more shots and chasers to pretend we don't own another bizarre record.
I still think Phil Simms taking 3 safeties in 1 quarter vs the LA Rams is a safe low benchmark.

 

[navery12]

 

[CardiacAndre7]

It rarely works dropping back the whole defense. Letting the QB twiddle his thumbs while our sub-par defensive backfield runs around aimlessly. Dru Phillips plays hard and tackles well but he is pretty much allergic to getting his head back around. Such a joke.

 

[navery12]

It rarely works dropping back the whole defense. Letting the QB twiddle his thumbs while our sub-par defensive backfield runs around aimlessly. Dru Phillips plays hard and tackles well but he is pretty much allergic to getting his head back around. Such a joke.

It's like Shane Bowen learned nothing from watching Dallas do the same exact thing a few weeks ago. Makes no sense

 

[John]

Jim Mora would look nice running the Giants

shhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Edward Sargent]

That's true , I should have said 3 points , but damn those 3 points would have made a big difference. Finding a FG kicker that can make extra points should not be so difficult.
I am even more annoyed and disgusted with the defense. 11 orange traffic cones could have provided better defense than the NYG's defense.

I think it is more about the defensive play calling than the defense itself. Prevent defense just doesn't work.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

All anyone needs to do is look at what the Patriots have been doing recently to understand how important it is to have an adult in charge.

 

[Scoe]

Daboll just panics he has zero self control he's a mental midget and Bowen is a wimp. It does feel good to have a qb knowing there's no worry of tanking for a qb not to mention this qb draft class sucks.

 

[Ricker]

From a Denver Publication:
I hate to throw shade on an opponent, but also hats off to Shane Bowen for pulling a page out of the Dick LeBeau 2011 playoff strategy guide and doing the dumbest thing possible in a key moment of the game. Bowen, for some reason, thought dropping his team into prevent zone was a good idea with the Broncos needing chunks of yards to make a game-winning field goal. With a quarterback like Bo Nix, you need guys covered to confuse him, not guys running free to holes in your defense.

From the NYG:
In the wake of the New York Giants' stunning 33-32 collapse against the Denver Broncos in Week 7, linebacker and team captain Bobby Okereke delivered a resounding vote of confidence in defensive coordinator Shane Bowen. "100 percent. We're all hands on deck. We're all bought in," he said when asked about support for Bowen's schemes.

Its always the best policy to deny what is obvious to everybody else. Especially when it doesn't work for the second time in just a few weeks.

(Not only did the Giants rush just three players, but All-Pro nose tackle Dexter Lawrence and rookie edge rusher Abdul Carter weren't even on the field for that play)

 

[FfldCntyFan]

There were quite a few things about that game (and the decision making by the coaching staff down the stretch) that were inexcusable. That said, there could well be positives to be drawn from this:

1 - there had been rumors for nearly two weeks that the Giants were looking to add a #1 WR at the trade deadline to fill the hole with Nabors' injury. There is no reason to give up future draft capital for a rental on this team. This loss may make the front office realize that playoffs are a bit of a pipe dream and the goal should be to continue building for 2026 and beyond.

2 - there is more evidence that someone other than Daboll is needed to run this team once the roster is built out further. If Sunday made it easier to dismiss him at season's end, it was a matrices to pay.

3 - as we likely aren't yet a playoff team and we didn't need to sacrifice our 2026 first round pick in the trade to draft Dart, the loss (add to this Dallas and New Orleans earlier in the season) helps our draft position. Personally I want a stud CB, hopefully there will be one available when we pick.

 

[HuskyHawk]

There were quite a few things about that game (and the decision making by the coaching staff down the stretch) that were inexcusable. That said, there could well be positives to be drawn from this:

1 - there had been rumors for nearly two weeks that the Giants were looking to add a #1 WR at the trade deadline to fill the hole with Nabors' injury. There is no reason to give up future draft capital for a rental on this team. This loss may make the front office realize that playoffs are a bit of a pipe dream and the goal should be to continue building for 2026 and beyond.

2 - there is more evidence that someone other than Daboll is needed to run this team once the roster is built out further. If Sunday made it easier to dismiss him at season's end, it was a matrices to pay.

3 - as we likely aren't yet a playoff team and we didn't need to sacrifice our 2026 first round pick in the trade to draft Dart, the loss (add to this Dallas and New Orleans earlier in the season) helps our draft position. Personally I want a stud CB, hopefully there will be one available when we pick.

I know this may ring hollow from a Pats fan, but I think you need to like the situation the Giants are in. If you can upgrade the coaching, you've got a team with pretty solid looking young QB, elite young WR, very good young TE, great young Edge and some other solid pieces. Yet you'll probably pick pretty high. That's a recipe for success. I think Philly is trending the other way, getting older, losing talent.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I know this may ring hollow from a Pats fan, but I think you need to like the situation the Giants are in. If you can upgrade the coaching, you've got a team with pretty solid looking young QB, elite young WR, very good young TE, great young Edge and some other solid pieces. Yet you'll probably pick pretty high. That's a recipe for success. I think Philly is trending the other way, getting older, losing talent.

I posted a little earlier in this thread about the Patriots now having an adult in charge. That should be all anyone needs to reference when the inevitable "You can't make your QB change coaches after his rookie season" excuse comes up on whether to fire Daboll.

I will die a very happy man if I never see a head coach who's surname starts with 'D' coaching one of my football teams (Giants/UConn) again.

As far as the roster, another solid draft should put us in a very good position. I'll expand later, but what we're missing on offense can be filled with two or three day three draft picks and the couple missing pieces on defense can be found in the first two rounds.

 

[Edward Sargent]

There were quite a few things about that game (and the decision making by the coaching staff down the stretch) that were inexcusable. That said, there could well be positives to be drawn from this:

1 - there had been rumors for nearly two weeks that the Giants were looking to add a #1 WR at the trade deadline to fill the hole with Nabors' injury. There is no reason to give up future draft capital for a rental on this team. This loss may make the front office realize that playoffs are a bit of a pipe dream and the goal should be to continue building for 2026 and beyond.

2 - there is more evidence that someone other than Daboll is needed to run this team once the roster is built out further. If Sunday made it easier to dismiss him at season's end, it was a matrices to pay.

3 - as we likely aren't yet a playoff team and we didn't need to sacrifice our 2026 first round pick in the trade to draft Dart, the loss (add to this Dallas and New Orleans earlier in the season) helps our draft position. Personally I want a stud CB, hopefully there will be one available when we pick.

Yeah but you are talking about the guy who gave up Barkley for nothing to see him become MVP, then give Daniel Jones a huge contract only to give him up for nothing only to watch him have an MVP season!

 

[Edward Sargent]

I know this may ring hollow from a Pats fan, but I think you need to like the situation the Giants are in. If you can upgrade the coaching, you've got a team with pretty solid looking young QB, elite young WR, very good young TE, great young Edge and some other solid pieces. Yet you'll probably pick pretty high. That's a recipe for success. I think Philly is trending the other way, getting older, losing talent.

I think Schoen and Daboll came in as a package - no? Schoen's decision making is nearly as bad as Daboll's maybe worse if you consider the place kicking situation