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I suspect that Nneka and BG could easily drop 30+ a night on the teams that Delaware plays. We won't really know how good EDD is until the NCAA tourney begins and we get a good look at her against some lock-down defenders. Will she score 30 with Griner in the paint? Highly doubtful, IMO.

Madden gets her on the perimeter and Griner helps in the paint. That's a tough combo to drop 30 on.
I suspect Baylor would double her on the perimeter as needed, let Griner defend the interior against EDD or anyone else, and concede three point shots taken by anyone not named EDD. That would be an especially bad matchup for Delaware due to Griner's ability to cover so much ground from the basket out to near the three-point line.
 
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I suspect that Nneka and BG could easily drop 30+ a night on the teams that Delaware plays. We won't really know how good EDD is until the NCAA tourney begins and we get a good look at her against some lock-down defenders. Will she score 30 with Griner in the paint? Highly doubtful, IMO.

Madden gets her on the perimeter and Griner helps in the paint. That's a tough combo to drop 30 on.

Very good point!
 

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If BG shot the same volume of shots that EDD currently has taken, based on BG's current shooting percentage, she would be averaging 29+ a game.
 
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Elena is the best offensive player in college. That's offensive player, not just scorer and it isn't close. I'm hoping the people arguing about her schedule not being tough enough have never seen her play. And if you have never seen her play why are you arguing about this with people that have seen her play?

Elena is not a mid-major player having typical mid-major star success. She's not an undersized post player succeeding in way that won't work again lesser competition. She's not an undersized guard that can't get shots off against better competition. Put her on any other team and the final statistics will look a little different, but it won't change that she the reality that she is the best offensive player in college basketball. And she does it in a way that anyone who appreciates the way UConn plays basketball should respect.
 

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If BG shot the same volume of shots that EDD currently has taken, based on BG's current shooting percentage, she would be averaging 29+ a game.
If Griner shot that many times, her percentage would go down. She shoots a high percentage because she gnerally takes good shots and does not force things.
 

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If Griner shot that many times, her percentage would go down. She shoots a high percentage because she gnerally takes good shots and does not force things.

If BG were playing against the competition that EDD is her shooting percentage would go up.

I am not disputing EDD's talent, but BG will never have the variety that a smaller player will have. She would be wasting her time to focus on that because she will never be asked to do that. She has focused on what HER strength is, which is taking the ball down low and scoring at will. A true post player should focus on POST play, not stepping out to the three point line. You think Geno wants Griner on the Olympic team so that she can step out and shoot 20 footers? I am quite sure that under Geno she will never be shooting anywhere other than in the paint.

Yes, EDD has more variety. Is she a more effective offensive player? The stats don't prove that to be the case. Funny how stats matter at some times but not others.
 

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If BG were playing against the competition that EDD is her shooting percentage would go up.

I am not disputing EDD's talent, but BG will never have the variety that a smaller player will have. She would be wasting her time to focus on that because she will never be asked to do that. She has focused on what HER strength is, which is taking the ball down low and scoring at will. A true post player should focus on POST play, not stepping out to the three point line. You think Geno wants Griner on the Olympic team so that she can step out and shoot 20 footers? I am quite sure that under Geno she will never be shooting anywhere other than in the paint.

Yes, EDD has more variety. Is she a more effective offensive player? The stats don't prove that to be the case. Funny how stats matter at some times but not others.
I agree that Griner would dominate the CAA athletes even more than she does the Big 12 athletes. But if she played the Delaware schedule, she would not develop as much as she has.

Given Baylor's record, I think BG should be the POY, but I can see a case for both EDD and Nneka.
 

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I agree that Griner would dominate the CAA athletes even more than she does the Big 12 athletes. But if she played the Delaware schedule, she would not develop as much as she has.

Given Baylor's record, I think BG should be the POY, but I can see a case for both EDD and Nneka.

Agreed on both counts. All three are tremendous players and deserve recognition and will receive their share of votes. To me, Griner is the most impactful player in the history of the game. She is the only player, man or woman, to reach 2,000 points and 500 blocks in a career, and she did it midway through her junior season.

Griner would not be the player that she is today had she played in a weaker conference. The tougher the better for her. IMO, she needed to be pushed more than the other two. Would EDD have become a better player had she gone to UCONN? I don't know. Her skillset is already extremely polished.
 

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Agreed on both counts. All three are tremendous players and deserve recognition and will receive their share of votes. To me, Griner is the most impactful player in the history of the game. She is the only player, man or woman, to reach 2,000 points and 500 blocks in a career, and she did it midway through her junior season.

Griner would not be the player that she is today had she played in a weaker conference. The tougher the better for her. IMO, she needed to be pushed more than the other two. Would EDD have become a better player had she gone to UCONN? I don't know. Her skillset is already extremely polished.
Griner is a defensive monster along the lines of Russell, Chamberlain, or Walton--perhaps more so. She is unlike any female player before her.

I definitely think that EDD would be tougher, stronger, and a better player if she had the coaches, practice players, and teammates at UConn.

When EDD played on Team USA last summer, she got single coverage. In the CAA, she gets junk defenses and double-teamed or worse. I would have loved to see her on the same team as Maya.
 

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OK...I CAN'T agree with you on this one. (-;
I understand. :)

The Bears are going to be ready tonight and not looking past last year's champs, right? I've got to think you win by 20-25. My vote for Griner is partially predicated on 0 losses going into the NCAAs.
 

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I understand. :)

The Bears are going to be ready tonight and not looking past last year's champs, right? I've got to think you win by 20-25. My vote for Griner is partially predicated on 0 losses going into the NCAAs.

I think that a butt whipping on national TV on the Agettes home court is going to take place. Mulkey is going to have the ladies ready to play. If this game were not nationally televised I would be more worried about looking past them.

TAMU has some good size (6-4, 6-5, 6-7) to throw at Griner, plus Assarian, who basically comes into the game to pick up her five fouls on Griner. Her play can border on dirty. BG will probably get a lot of FT opportunities and she has shot 87% over the past 11 games. I think that good guard play is going to be a must for a win. Hayden has REALLY been playing at a different level the second part of the year. She is the most improved player on the team at this point, IMO.

But the game of the night belongs to UCONN and ND. I can hardly wait to see that one!
 
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