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Is there a time limitation on such a lawsuit? I mean, in the worst case scenario, why wouldn't UConn or the state sue?
 
upstater said:
Is there a time limitation on such a lawsuit? I mean, in the worst case scenario, why wouldn't UConn or the state sue?
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Because private lawsuits don't solve these types of problems.
 
gars44 said:
Because private lawsuits don't solve these types of problems.
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I agree... to a point. The threat of one can sure help out though.
 
gars44 said:
Because private lawsuits don't solve these types of problems.
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Like I said, "in the worst case scenario..." IE. There'd be no problem to solve at that point. It would be about damages.
 
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CT93 said:
Sue! Sue! Sue!, We gotta sue!
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Sue .... and we win. DeFilippo did what we all tell our Professionals not to do: don't get that in writing. He was arrogant in talking to Blaudshun. He will enjoy being deposed ... AGAIN.
 
There is one thing here that doesn't make sense. If Duke and UNC wanted to shore up basketball. And if the conference wanted to expand to the northeast, fearing losses in the south to the SEC, and if it also wanted to improve football payout, then the logical move is this: Add Pitt, Syracuse and UConn. Drop BC. BC is a dead weight in both sports. Perhaps the other ACC Presidents should reconsider how to best achieve their goals.

It is clear to me that what is needed to make the ACC wet its pants, is a nice, solid UConn to the BigTen rumor. If BC thought that UConn in the ACC was a dangerous local rival, UConn in the BigTen is their worst freaking nightmare. The BigTen Network is already part of the standard package here in metro Boston.
 
HuskyHawk said:
There is one thing here that doesn't make sense. If Duke and UNC wanted to shore up basketball. And if the conference wanted to expand to the northeast, fearing losses in the south to the SEC, and if it also wanted to improve football payout, then the logical move is this: Add Pitt, Syracuse and UConn. Drop BC. BC is a dead weight in both sports. Perhaps the other ACC Presidents should reconsider how to best achieve their goals.

It is clear to me that what is needed to make the ACC wet its pants, is a nice, solid UConn to the BigTen rumor. If BC thought that UConn in the ACC was a dangerous local rival, UConn in the BigTen is their worst freaking nightmare. The BigTen Network is already part of the standard package here in metro Boston.
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While you would think that a conference would never drop a school for the precedent alone (that school would have the support of other members who might fear the same treatment) it is absolutely true that before Northwestern voted for Nebraska's inclusion, they sought out assurances from the Big10 that they would not be ejected from the conference in the future.
 
DeFillipo did us a huge favor by shooting his mouth off. First the whole thing about ESPN driving the deal and defections is making the national sports websites, except for ESPN.

Second, he made the ACC committee look like a bunch of petty fools. He's bragging about stopping Uconn's entrance into the ACC and relegating Uconn to "second class" status - turf wars. I'm sure this is not sitting well in certain circles of the ACC.

Now the news that the BE is looking to expand its football to 12 teams. If it happens, with the potential candidates, BE football could actually be a stronger conference than the ACC. Certainly, basketball will still rank above the ACC, even without Pitt and Syracuse.

This in itself may be enough pressure on the ACC to expand to Uconn and maybe Rutgers before it is too late. Especially if Uconn was an original choice before DeFillipo's hissy fit. And just maybe the ACC decides it needs 13 teams now.

Uconn and Herbst just need to sit quietly and watch this play out. I think we now have a big advantage.

I love it when some people think they are so smart and stick both feet in their mouth - up to the knees!!!!!
 
HuskyHawk said:
It is clear to me that what is needed to make the ACC wet its pants, is a nice, solid UConn to the BigTen rumor. If BC thought that UConn in the ACC was a dangerous local rival, UConn in the BigTen is their worst freaking nightmare. The BigTen Network is already part of the standard package here in metro Boston.
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Your wish is my command:

SECNews247SEC News 24/7

2nd hand info on this but #MIZZOU Is supposedly in feverish convos w/ #NotreDame about both joining the #B1G.B1G will take Mizzou to get ND

SECNews247SEC News 24/7

#NotreDame doesn't want #Rutgers or #UConn in the #B1G because they want the recruiting advantage in the northeast. That's why #ND & #Mizzou

The fact that ND is worried about Rutgers and UConn in the B1G means it's been discussed on a nonpublic level. How deeply discussed? Who knows. However one would think ND didn't just conjure up something to be nervous about. Unfortunately, no link from SECNews247, so take it for what it's worth.
 
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I didn't realize the big 10 network is standard in boston, is this true?

i was under impression that the big 10 network is not standard packages on anything but satellite in the northeast, and I don't think it's actually part of basic packages on directv or dish either.

I think that with UConn sports in games broadcast by SNY in the past year averaging a 5 rating and football rating as high as 6.1 market share - that would be very attractive to the big 10 network, and seeing as how SNY made it's way to television providers, so quickly.......and that most of the high profile games that are going to draw even more viewers were on ESPN.....not SNY

just saying. I'm not sure how existing contracts with the big east and espn and sny would play in, but when those contracts are up? I think the big 10 would have a powerful entry into basic broadcasting in the northeast with UConn on board.
 
ND should worry about PSU when recruiting the northeast never mind UConn & Rutgers. That alone makes this rumor bs. I could see PSU fighting tooth and nail to get 1 if not both schools included if the B1G expanded.

MattMang23 said:
Your wish is my command:

SECNews247SEC News 24/7

2nd hand info on this but #MIZZOU Is supposedly in feverish convos w/ #NotreDame about both joining the #B1G.B1G will take Mizzou to get ND

SECNews247SEC News 24/7

#NotreDame doesn't want #Rutgers or #UConn in the #B1G because they want the recruiting advantage in the northeast. That's why #ND & #Mizzou

The fact that ND is worried about Rutgers and UConn in the B1G means it's been discussed on a nonpublic level. How deeply discussed? Who knows. However one would think ND didn't just conjure up something to be nervous about. Unfortunately, no link from SECNews247, so take it for what it's worth.
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The result of 2004:

1. The BE basketball got much better than the ACC. Certain programs thrived since BC, VT and Miami left. Many got better; the coaching got much better. The ACC got really bland ... and hired awful coaches.

2. The NEWBIES (UConn ... but moreso Cincy & USF) had great football improvement. And I think it will continue.

The New New BE ... could be equally a leap forward. Why? Because these new Universities are well-located & can put together programs better than BC or Wake. Simple.
 
HartbeatHusky said:
Look, ESPN is still good for CT and Bristol as a tax paying corporate citizen. I'm not going to be too quick to try to push them out of here if I'm Malloy. It sucks what they did but we all need to wait and see how UConn fares over the next couple of years before we start trying to penalize a CT company.
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Connecticut is having a hard enough time trying to retain what business we still have left here, never mind attracting new business. The worst thing that could happen is the state making it uncomfortable for ESPN and they move..... to Charlotte.
ESPN is a globally known entity. Having it's headquarters here in CT can only be a good thing. The best thing we as fans can do right now is fill the Rent, scream just as loud if not louder than anyone else in the country at games(the 12th man thing) and be patient. When the team wins games everything else will take care of itself. All we can really do is support, support, support!!
 
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Carl Spackler said:
I didn't realize the big 10 network is standard in boston, is this true?

i was under impression that the big 10 network is not standard packages on anything but satellite in the northeast, and I don't think it's actually part of basic packages on directv or dish either.

I think that with UConn sports in games broadcast by SNY in the past year averaging a 5 rating and football rating as high as 6.1 market share - that would be very attractive to the big 10 network, and seeing as how SNY made it's way to television providers, so quickly.......and that most of the high profile games that are going to draw even more viewers were on ESPN.....not SNY

just saying. I'm not sure how existing contracts with the big east and espn and sny would play in, but when those contracts are up? I think the big 10 would have a powerful entry into basic broadcasting in the northeast with UConn on board.
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Big 10 is standard in CT on UVerse.
 
weyuo said:
Connecticut is having a hard enough time trying to retain what business we still have left here, never mind attracting new business. The worst thing that could happen is the state making it uncomfortable for ESPN and they move..... to Charlotte.
ESPN is a globally known entity. Having it's headquarters here in CT can only be a good thing. The best thing we as fans can do right now is fill the Rent, scream just as loud if not louder than anyone else in the country at games(the 12th man thing) and be patient. When the team wins games everything else will take care of itself. All we can really do is support, support, support!!
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Espn isn't going anywhere. The facilites they have built would cost a fortune to build elsewhere and there would be a buyer or their facility in CT. On top of that, they aren't going to leave because CT loves UCONN, they know that.
 
Agree. You'd think Penn State would be a bigger concern. If ND is citing not wanting to lose a recruiting advantage, why join a league Penn State is already in? Most northeast recruits come out of PA anyway. Locking out UConn to ensure recruiting advantages in NY, CT and western MA seems stupid. Not enough recruits come from this area.
 
MattMang23 said:
Agree. You'd think Penn State would be a bigger concern. If ND is citing not wanting to lose a recruiting advantage, why join a league Penn State is already in? Most northeast recruits come out of PA anyway. Locking out UConn to ensure recruiting advantages in NY, CT and western MA seems stupid. Not enough recruits come from this area.
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Exactly..besides PSU seems to have the market covered very well in the 3 recruiting areas you just brought up. I think ND is actually arrogant enough to think that if they joined the ACC their road to the BCS is much easier, even on a down year for them...AND that the competition in the B1G hoops is beneath them....that they can compete in the ACC hoops wise.
 
FDNY99 said:
Exactly..besides PSU seems to have the market covered very well in the 3 recruiting areas you just brought up. I think ND is actually arrogant enough to think that if they joined the ACC their road to the BCS is much easier, even on a down year for them...AND that the competition in the B1G hoops is beneath them....that they can compete in the ACC hoops wise.
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You mean to tell me ND isn't as good in football as we are all lead to believe? That they're not a top 3 team every single year? Better not tell Lou Holtz that one.

As far as basketball goes, I do have to disagree to an extent. They definitely could compete in the ACC. They've been a pretty consistent program in the BE in the Mike Brey era. Would they win the ACC? Probably not, but they could compete.
 
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That is what I mean...they believe they can compete for the ACC title like they do in the BE...and since the B1G isn't as strong hoops wise as ACC it would be beneath them to join the B1G.

MattMang23 said:
You mean to tell me ND isn't as good in football as we are all lead to believe? That they're not a top 3 team every single year? Better not tell Lou Holtz that one.

As far as basketball goes, I do have to disagree to an extent. They definitely could compete in the ACC. They've been a pretty consistent program in the BE in the Mike Brey era. Would they win the ACC? Probably not, but they could compete.
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FDNY99 said:
That is what I mean...they believe they can compete for the ACC title like they do in the BE...and since the B1G isn't as strong hoops wise as ACC it would be beneath them to join the B1G.
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Ah gotcha. I thought you meant their arrogance at thinking that was getting in the way from the reality that they couldn't compete. We're on the same page then.
 
Carl Spackler said:
I didn't realize the big 10 network is standard in boston, is this true?

i was under impression that the big 10 network is not standard packages on anything but satellite in the northeast, and I don't think it's actually part of basic packages on directv or dish either.
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I have it in the standard package with FiOS in metro Boston. I have always thought that UConn had more value to the B1G than to the ACC, because of the BTN. They show a lot of hockey, women's hoops, soccer, baseball, etc. UConn would provide attractive programming to the network, certainly for basketball, but also for women's hoops, soccer and baseball. Those things are of lesser importance in the major network negotiations (other than men's basketball), but they do matter to the BTN.

I would contact all the B1G presidents, and commit that UConn will construct a competitive hockey arena and go full scholarship for hockey. We commit to expanding the Rent to 50-55k. We commit to agressive pursuit of AAU membership. We commit to kicking BC's butt in football recruiting.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have it in the standard package with FiOS in metro Boston. I have always thought that UConn had more value to the B1G than to the ACC, because of the BTN. They show a lot of hockey, women's hoops, soccer, baseball, etc. UConn would provide attractive programming to the network, certainly for basketball, but also for women's hoops, soccer and baseball. Those things are of lesser importance in the major network negotiations (other than men's basketball), but they do matter to the BTN.

I would contact all the B1G presidents, and commit that UConn will construct a competitive hockey arena and go full scholarship for hockey. We commit to expanding the Rent to 50-55k. We commit to agressive pursuit of AAU membership. We commit to kicking BC's butt in football recruiting.
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Fantastic. When can we expect your check?
 
Carl Spackler said:
I didn't realize the big 10 network is standard in boston, is this true?

i was under impression that the big 10 network is not standard packages on anything but satellite in the northeast, and I don't think it's actually part of basic packages on directv or dish either.

I think that with UConn sports in games broadcast by SNY in the past year averaging a 5 rating and football rating as high as 6.1 market share - that would be very attractive to the big 10 network, and seeing as how SNY made it's way to television providers, so quickly.......and that most of the high profile games that are going to draw even more viewers were on ESPN.....not SNY

just saying. I'm not sure how existing contracts with the big east and espn and sny would play in, but when those contracts are up? I think the big 10 would have a powerful entry into basic broadcasting in the northeast with UConn on board.
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Even if it's standard they charge 1/1oth of what they charge elsewhere. It's like the Oxygen channel, or whatever.
 
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