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I finished Cibola Burn and now have started #5--Nemesis Games.

Cibola Burn is fairly different. Some of the books were big in scale, solar system wide. This one is fairly insulated, taking place almost entirely on or around the first new planet explored thru the gate. The Roci crew are front and center. Avasarala and Bobbi are barely there. It seems like they are both going to be major players later, but not in this book.

Just getting started on Nemesis Games, but in this one the Roci team have some down time for ship repairs, so end up splitting up and going 4 different directions. I kinda don't like breaking up the team and going different directions story lines generally speaking.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I finished Cibola Burn and now have started #5--Nemesis Games.

Cibola Burn is fairly different. Some of the books were big in scale, solar system wide. This one is fairly insulated, taking place almost entirely on or around the first new planet explored thru the gate. The Roci crew are front and center. Avasarala and Bobbi are barely there. It seems like they are both going to be major players later, but not in this book.

Just getting started on Nemesis Games, but in this one the Roci team have some down time for ship repairs, so end up splitting up and going 4 different directions. I kinda don't like breaking up the team and going different directions story lines generally speaking.
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Cibola was the last one I finished. I don’t even remember what happened. It wasn’t bad though.

I got half way through Nemesis Games.
 
ZooCougar said:
Cibola was the last one I finished. I don’t even remember what happened. It wasn’t bad though.

I got half way through Nemesis Games.
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Yeah, I'm not totally committed to finishing the book series. I think the TV show is better.
 
Whew! Nemesis Games ends in a fairly massive cliff hanger. The rabbit hole just keeps going deeper and deeper. Probably gonna have to keep going with the series to find out WTH is going on.
 
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I caught the first 2 episodes. Definitely has a bit of a different feel to me. It's a slicker production, but I kinda liked it grittier and scruffier.

This is not new, but there are quite a few departures from the book. That's fine, artistic license. They are already setting up something that was never mentioned until the next book in the series.
 
I'm starting up again. I'm fine with the creators making some changes when they adapt something from a book to tv or movie. One HUMONGOUS difference though, changes EVERYTHING. In the book the Belters aren't the settlers of the planets beyond the ring gate, it's the disenfranchised from the inner planets. The whole plot of the next 2 books after this one is about the Belters wanting to shut down the ring gate because they will be completely obsolete if settlement continues unabated. I can't quite remember now, but either they simply can't be on planets with gravity due to their physiology, or they don't have the means for the drug therapy protocols that allow them to adapt to gravity. One way or the other, they were never going to be a part of exploring what lies beyond the gate. Which leads to some extreme responses. I'm not quite sure how they are going to proceed with the tv show given this massive divergence. They mentioned Marcos Inaros already in Ep. 2 I think. He didn't come into play until later in the book series but he's a big player. I don't know how they are going to square what he does if the Belters are also settlers, it doesn't really jive.
 
Ehh...I didn't really love Season 4. Some of that was due to the plot of what was happening on New Terra being somewhat limited. I can understand that they introduced a fair bit of material from the next book for that reason. I didn't like some of the character arcs though (that were fairly big departures IIRC). Avasarala having a major falling out with her husband over political issues, he stayed in his lane in the literary version. Bobbi and Amos having moments of weakness and feeling sorry for themselves. That's just not them at all. They aren't perfect and they aren't Mary Sues, but self pity is NOT in their DNA. Kinda unfortunate but I think I like the SyFy version of The Expanse better than the Amazon version of it. But at least Prime rescued it from extinction.
 
3 episodes of Season 5 were just released. Looks like Amazon is doing the stupid weekly release of episodes thing they did w/ Season 2 of the boys.


It took a long time, but I finally read thru the book series. There are several novellas that are fillers between the novels, I didn't read those. There's another book being released in 2021, I would assume it's the last in the series? I found Inaros to be an enormously irritating character, but once they moved on to Duarte and the Laconians it became more interesting and enjoyable.
 
I've been enjoying Season 5 so far. No new episode until January 6th. Not sure why they do this on a pay service.
 
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billythekid said:
I've been enjoying Season 5 so far. No new episode until January 6th. Not sure why they do this on a pay service.
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No kidding. I don't have Prime currently. I think I'll wait til they finish this season, then sign up again so I can breeze thru it.
 
I enjoyed season 5, but Alex’s death was bizarre. It was so bizarre that I had to google it...

'The Expanse': How Alex Kamal Died and Why Cas Anvar is Leaving the Show

He got poochie’d...

the simpsons goodbye GIF
 
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I just finished Season 5 and really enjoyed it. I wish the crew of the Roci spent more time together as they have great chemistry on screen. I'm hoping/assuming there will be a Season 6.

This is an interesting article I came across speculating on the science in The Expanse's science fiction as opposed to the science in other sci-fi shows.
 
Just caught-up myself. Was a little annoyed how split-up the crew was until the very end, but that did allow for a decent amount of character development. Not surprised what happened to one of the family considering what was in the news. Happens often in Hollywood. Not sure what all of that 'red' was at the end. Was that just the ship crossing the Ring, which was an effect I haven't seen before, or was it something else? Guess we'll have to hope for a season 6.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Not sure what all of that 'red' was at the end. Was that just the ship crossing the Ring, which was an effect I haven't seen before, or was it something else? Guess we'll have to hope for a season 6.
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I think that is the alien life form referenced in the prior season that destroyed the proto molecule life form. Holden mentioned feeling it as he passed through the gate.

The Mao girl has completely escaped me as to what her role in the show was earlier.
 
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Mots010 said:
The Mao girl has completely escaped me as to what her role in the show was earlier.
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She was a saboteur in Season 3 and sat out Season 4. Destroyed a ship and framed the crew of the Roci for it.
 
Finally watched an episode of Season 5. Long way to go, but I absolutely loved Season 2 and 3 and it just doesn't seem like it's at the same level of storytelling anymore.
 
4 episodes in now. Pretty good. I know, artistic license and all, but what happened to Fred Johnson in the TV series is very different than the book. Not really sure why they made that choice.

I absolutely hated Marco the book character, as well as Philip. TV versions are living up to that. Both just huge db's. They can't end soon enough. It's not just that they're antagonists, they're narcissistic morons.
 
nwhoopfan said:
4 episodes in now. Pretty good. I know, artistic license and all, but what happened to Fred Johnson in the TV series is very different than the book. Not really sure why they made that choice.

I absolutely hated Marco the book character, as well as Philip. TV versions are living up to that. Both just huge db's. They can't end soon enough. It's not just that they're antagonists, they're narcissistic morons.
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I enjoyed Season 5 and The Expanse continues to be one of my favorite shows on TV. My biggest issue was that I felt the story is stronger when the main characters are together and they spend the majority of Season 5 separate.
 
billythekid said:
My biggest issue was that I felt the story is stronger when the main characters are together and they spend the majority of Season 5 separate.
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The book this season is based on dictated that, unless they wanted to do a total departure from the source material. For the same reason the book was a bit tough to slog thru.
 
Up thru Ep. 7. Weakest episode of the season. It was mostly Marco talking, getting intoxicated on his self admiration. I had to start fast forwarding to get thru some of the scenes. Pretty much everything w/ him, Philip, any of their crew and Naomi is the weak link to the season. Well I did kind of like Cyn, but that was it. And Belters in general are pretty annoying. They have some legit beefs, but most of them have elevated victimhood to an art form.

I can't tell from looking at the summaries for each episode if Marco is going to spill over into Season 6, or if they are going to be done w/ him and move on to the real adversary.
 
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Finished Season 5. Underwhelmed. Kinda bloated, too much talking, too little happening. Pretty pissed about what they did w/ Alex. I guess the creators felt their hand was forced due to circumstances w/ the actor. That's certainly going to force the show to diverge from the books a lot.

I was wondering when Duarte was going to come up, finally in the last couple minutes of the last episode. Also the issue that can come up when transiting a ring gate.

I'm not sure if I can handle another entire season dominated by Marco.

I'm sticking w/ what I've said before, the show was better when SyFy was producing it compared to it's move to Amazon.
 
Just saw an article that indicates Season 6 will be the final season. Wow, there's a lot to squeeze in. Furthering my impression they wasted a lot of time in Season 5. And there could be a GOT situation, where the book series is not done (although another is supposed to come out some time in '21, no release date yet that I've seen) so they'll have to make up their own conclusion.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Not sure what all of that 'red' was at the end. Was that just the ship crossing the Ring, which was an effect I haven't seen before, or was it something else? Guess we'll have to hope for a season 6.
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Mots010 said:
I think that is the alien life form referenced in the prior season that destroyed the proto molecule life form. Holden mentioned feeling it as he passed through the gate.
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Bingo, nailed it.


They really should've addressed it sooner than the closing minute of the season finale. In the books, ships had randomly been disappearing when passing thru ring gates for some period of time. It was a concern, no one was sure what was happening. Started long before Marco's revolution got kicked off.
 
Trailer for final season, starts airing in December. It might be a total misdirection, but appears it's all about Marco and Duarte has nothing to do with anything. If that is the case...pretty much ruins the series. At least Amazon kept it going when SyFy cancelled it, but the series went way down hill with the change in networks.

 
Anyone watching the current season? I don't have Prime at the moment.

I am slogging thru the final book in the series. It's been a chore. 370 pages in...and barely anything has happened. Fairly massively disappointing conclusion to such an epic. It seems the authors just had no idea how to wrap it up.
 
I watched this for a few seasons. Then lost track of it and where I was. Not sure I remember enough of what is a wildly complicated storyline to resume it. Is it really worth it past season 3-4 somewhere when I stopped?
 
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