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Message: [QUOTE="eebmg, post: 3057932, member: 7548"] Without trying to interpret the rule book which can be very ambiguous, I am guessing at a "common sense" set of criteria for face guarding that the refs may use. 1) I think you can face guard players both with and without the ball but it is in the form of one hand palm up. 2) There must be some level of common sense distance between the palm and face so that defended players normal head motion does not result in contact. 3) The palm must be reasonably steady (i.e no large range waving). I am also guessing that the difference in PF versus Technical hinges on what the ref's think is intent even if the rule book does not recognize that as a criterion. [/QUOTE]