The "Discuss our seeding and path to the Final Four" Thread

[navery12]

Wait so we're the top-seeded 4 seed according to the overall seeds, so how the hell did we get shafted to the west regional? I thought priority to proximity went by overall seeds

Because Marquette was a 2 seed so had priority over us in getting the East region, and the committee has to split up teams from the same conference where possible

 

[greenday61892]

Ok but by that logic wouldn't we then have priority to the south regional over Creighton?

 

[auror]

Ok but by that logic wouldn't we then have priority to the south regional over Creighton?

At that point maybe they shifted for competitive balance. Alabama top 1 in south so we go west.

 

[greenday61892]

idk, whatever the reason I'm getting pretty sick of getting slotted in the west the vast majority of the time

 

[FfldCntyFan]

idk, whatever the reason I'm getting pretty sick of getting slotted in the west the vast majority of the time

I'm kind of fond of the outcomes in 1999, 2004 & 2011.

 

[tzznandrew]

I'm kind of fond of the outcomes in 1999, 2004 & 2011.

Yeah. It's also not hard to get to Vegas or something.

 

[Ripper32]

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

Wait so we're the top-seeded 4 seed according to the overall seeds, so how the hell did we get shafted to the west regional? I thought priority to proximity went by overall seeds

Expected S-Curve was 8. UConn was under seeded by +5=13.

It looks like Utah State was the most under seeded team @ + 12. Arkansas @ + 9 ect ect...

Florida Atlantic should have been a 7 similar to the year Wofford beat Seton Hall in Rd 1.

+=S-Curve difference

 

[tykurez]

 

[Iluvsuebird]

Anything can happen in any given game. But we should beat Iona by 20. There is only ONE team that can beat Uconn this year. And that team is UCONN. I really believe that. There is not one team on this field that I believe can beat us if we are firing on all cylinders.

 

[gtcam]

idk, whatever the reason I'm getting pretty sick of getting slotted in the west the vast majority of the time

The west has been very good to UConn

 

[Ripper32]

So I watch Field of 68 alot. This is Rob Dauster's breakdown on UCONN:

To summarize, he thinks UCONN is a tough, physical team that controls the paint unlike any team in the NCAA. Specifically noted Sanogo and Andre Jackson (joked that he was more physically equipped to play WR in division 1). Dauster said UCONN creates quality shots with their infinitesimal amount of plays and counter plays. They will struggle when they have to start far away from the basket and the offense gets gummed up. He also said they don't have a dog that can just create shots from nothing in clutch time. So he sounds cautiously optimistic that they can make a run.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Because Marquette was a 2 seed so had priority over us in getting the East region, and the committee has to split up teams from the same conference where possible

Why would Marquette want to be in the East? They are a midwest team.

KU was the #4 seed, so they would play the top 2-3-4 seeds. Texas was the top #2, so they couldn't play UT. So UCLA was next toughest. Gonzaga and UConn are the top #3 and #4 respectively. That's all it is. It all follows those #1 seeds.

Alabama #1 overall, so south. Houston #2, they'd want South but it's taken, so Midwest. Purdue #3, they'd want midwest but it's taken so East. KU stuck with west. Then the 2-3-4 follow except avoiding in conference matchups. None of the 2-3-4 get preferences on regions.

 

[navery12]

Why would Marquette want to be in the East? They are a midwest team.

KU was the #4 seed, so they would play the top 2-3-4 seeds. Texas was the top #2, so they couldn't play UT. So UCLA was next toughest. Gonzaga and UConn are the top #3 and #4 respectively. That's all it is. It all follows those #1 seeds.

Alabama #1 overall, so south. Houston #2, they'd want South but it's taken, so Midwest. Purdue #3, they'd want midwest but it's taken so East. KU stuck with west. Then the 2-3-4 follow except avoiding in conference matchups. None of the 2-3-4 get preferences on regions.

You're missing the point, Marquette was a 2 seed so is placed in a region before UConn. So once Marquette ended up in the East, UConn couldn't

 

[HuskyHawk]

You're missing the point, Marquette was a 2 seed so is placed in a region before UConn. So once Marquette ended up in the East, UConn couldn't

True. But we never would have been anyway because our default region followed KU.

 

[auror]

True. But we never would have been anyway because our default region followed KU.

Geography is considered before the S-Curve. They will adjust to balance the regions after if necessary, but they go geography first.

 

[navery12]

True. But we never would have been anyway because our default region followed KU.

That's not a hard rule though, the committee does try to keep teams close to home where possible

2. The committee will then place the No. 2 seeds in each region in true seed list order. The committee may relax the principle of keeping teams as close to their area of natural interest for seeding teams on the No. 2 line to avoid, for example, the overall No. 5 seed being sent to the same region as the overall No. 1 seed. The committee will not compromise the principle of keeping teams from the same conference in separate regions.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Pretty good company.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Geography is considered before the S-Curve. They will adjust to balance the regions after if necessary, but they go geography first.

That's the opposite of what I've read. It doesn't matter. Seems KU was #3 not #4 this year, so some of this got muddled.