The Detroit Lions and Us

[Jaydumo20]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without alot of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

These things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

 

[TedStriker]

Uconn has 6 championships. Detroit’s last championship was like 70 years ago when there were like 8 teams. We are not the same

 

[mauconnfan]

I thought it would be as simple as despite lackluster defenses very gritty teams finding ways to win.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I thought it would be as simple as despite lackluster defenses very gritty teams finding ways to win.

Yes!!! That too
The Buddha was also famously quoted: "but...defense wins championships"

 

[Uconn77Duke74]

The Final Four in Detroit was the only time we lost a game in a Final Four. If they lose their first playoff game at home then I will start to agree with the comparison.

 

[borninansonia]

Yes!!! That too
The Buddha was also famously quoted: "but...defense wins championships"

Sun Tzu, in the Art of War,
“Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack.”

 

[mussels]

and here I thought it was all due to the dairy bar.

 

[Jaydumo20]

Uconn has 6 championships. Detroit’s last championship was like 70 years ago when there were like 8 teams. We are not the same

You're exactly right. But the point of the thread was to show how much outside stuff that we don't see on the court/field goes into building a successful program.

Example: i listen to wfan and routinely, fans will call in saying, why don't the giants just go get so&so or hire so&so, or do this or do that or fire that guy etc. We are seeing only 1% of what goes into all that. If we saw the whole picture (finances, culture, advertisements, location, state government, unions, agents, recruiters, travel budgets, an owners ego, corporate influence, a GM's relationship with their spouse, etc... then we'd see how hard it is to make the decisions we as fans think should be "no brainers".

Think this is far fetched? I bet Dan Hurley's decision to turn down the lakers and KY had more to do with Andrea than $$$ or prestige. In that case, the lakers future with jj redick and Bronny's pro prospects were influenced by Andrea Hurley.

 

[Jaydumo20]

and here I thought it was all due to the dairy bar.

Funny enough, I bet we can somehow, on a finer level, attribute a win or two to the dairy bar. I mean, bad seafood almost derailed our 1st Dan Hurley ring.

 

[mussels]

Funny enough, I bet we can somehow, on a finer level, attribute a win or two to the dairy bar. I mean, bad seafood almost derailed our 1st Dan Hurley ring.

a butterfly flaps its wings…

 

[6Nattys4Us]

I have been a Detroit Lions fan since the late 70s...this is just gravy with their rise coinciding with UConn's last few years of domination.

Now if only my LA Angels could put something together....

 

[HooperScooper]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without all of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain all those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

All these things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

 

[Jaydumo20]

Did you honestly think I'd ever come up with that stuff if I DIDN'T get high every day for the past 30 years?

 

[superjohn]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without all of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain all those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

All these things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

UConn has had disastrous school presidents and disastrous state governors during some of our championships. UConn basketball won in spite of them, in spite of conference realignment, in spite of a lot things working against them.

 

[HooperScooper]

Did you honestly think I'd ever come up with that stuff if I DIDN'T get high every day for the past 30 years?

O.K. now all those threads you start make sense to me! Lol

 

[Jaydumo20]

UConn has had disastrous school presidents and disastrous state governors during some of our championships. UConn basketball won in spite of them, in spite of conference realignment, in spite of a lot things working against them.

True. Malloy is definitely a fan of Maine Athletics. I'll be dead in the ground before I acknowledge Bananas T. Bear.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

UConn has had disastrous school presidents and disastrous state governors during some of our championships. UConn basketball won in spite of them, in spite of conference realignment, in spite of a lot things working against them.

"Disastrous," eh?

UConn basketball has survived your persistent hyping of unsupportable hyperbolic adjectives in part because I've counted every syllable in nearly every Game Day Haiku Thread for more than a decade. Who would believe such an assertion?

There's a hierarchy to placing perceived negatives in mature perspective:

Some believe that success is achieved in spite of flaws, foibles, and imperfections.

Some believe that success is achieved because of flaws, foibles, and imperfections.

Some believe that success is achieved in the face of flaws, foibles, and imperfections.

Some believe that success is achieved including flaws, foibles, and imperfections.

 

[cullaville]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without alot of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

These things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

I was doubtful at first about your comment about "every CT governor" but then I remembered that the first governor of CT (Oct 1769 - May 1784) was Jonathon Trumbull. So I am guessing that his where the name of UCONNs Husky mascot derived from.

 

[cullaville]

You're exactly right. But the point of the thread was to show how much outside stuff that we don't see on the court/field goes into building a successful program.

Example: i listen to wfan and routinely, fans will call in saying, why don't the giants just go get so&so or hire so&so, or do this or do that or fire that guy etc. We are seeing only 1% of what goes into all that. If we saw the whole picture (finances, culture, advertisements, location, state government, unions, agents, recruiters, travel budgets, an owners ego, corporate influence, a GM's relationship with their spouse, etc... then we'd see how hard it is to make the decisions we as fans think should be "no brainers".

Think this is far fetched? I bet Dan Hurley's decision to turn down the lakers and KY had more to do with Andrea than $$$ or prestige. In that case, the lakers future with jj redick and Bronny's pro prospects were influenced by Andrea Hurley.

so you are the person who still listens to WFAN

 

[ctchamps]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without alot of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

These things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

I think our success started with the start of rising global temperatures.

 

[Mr. French]

Did you honestly think I'd ever come up with that stuff if I DIDN'T get high every day for the past 30 years?

I thought you sounded particularly intelligent

 

[Jaydumo20]

I think our success started with the start of rising global temperatures.

Hmmmm....I'm listening

 

[ctchamps]

Hmmmm....I'm listening

I think that factor has had a correlation to our success. I'm trying to determine how UConn has been able to take advantage of it more than any other program. Plus our basketball programs have been so hot over the last thirty years I'm wondering if that play has contributed to temperatures rising.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I think that factor has had a correlation to our success. I'm trying to determine how UConn has been able to take advantage of it more than any other program. Plus our basketball programs have been so hot over the last thirty years I'm wondering if that play has contributed to temperatures rising.

I'm not sure who it was but,
A player visited Kansas U and had to take shelter in a bunker, because of an active twister.

so he chose a non-tornado school.
I think it was John Henson.

 

[uconngb]

O.K. now all those threads you start make sense to me! Lol

I had a reply of “set the bong down and slowly move away” but I thought it would be too harsh. I now know it was spot on accurate!

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Admittedly, my thread title is a little click-baity but there is a connection.

Buddhist perception doesn't look at an object as a stand alone entity, but as a product of all the causes that contribute to the object's being. i.e. you are not seeing a tree unless you also "see" the sunlight, the dirt, the nutrients, the rain, etc. that is necessary for the tree to be.

Sports teams, pro and college, aren't just stand alone entities. There is: leadership, ownership, front office, back office, families, culture, philosophy, facilities, donors, academics, etc. No program can reach these heights without alot of these things coming together.

This is why in the NFL it's so hard to get to where the Lions are today. Coach Campbell said as much in his post game pep talk: they didnt just show up this year out of the blue, this took years to build. It's soooo tentative. You have to maintain those pieces to continue this high level of success.

Now to Uconn: it's not just hurleys recruiting, and the staff. Or NIL.
It's every uconn president, every CT Governor, the unique geography of the state, Geno's Italian heritage, p.j. and Seton Hall, Perno, sister catherine, our insane fan base, @temery and @HuskyNan, the d'amelios, steph castle's parents. Etc.

These things come together to produce the improbable success this program has reached. Everybody else is trying to do this. All the other hundreds of college and pro teams. To have continued success like ours is a huge effort. I think we have to reflect on how lucky we are to be where we are and just how improbable this all is.

Dramatic? Don't forget 15 years of bad football. And Calhoun's Irish heritage and his Isreali pipeline.

 

[6Nattys4Us]

I didn't find it click-baity but then again I'm a Lions fan.

The similarity is the coach: Campbell vs Hurley and you find players that want to play for them. A lot of players go on the record saying as much for both.

Also similar is the "next man up" philosophy that I would say the Lions enjoy with more success than the Huskies - but football is such a specialized skill game so an offensive tackle from the bench is more likely someone playing offensive tackle for many years. In bk, especially college bk, the next man off the bench for a player does not usually have the same skill or experience. (e.g., If AK needs a breather, and Stewart comes in, one 4 is not the same as the other).