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the media coverage of this team during the tourney is one of the oddest things I've seen. I get the criticism of our supporting cast during the regular season because I was pissed at Boat and DD's play during both conf and nonconference play, and I was urging Giffey to pull the trigger more when open, but outside of the Louisville game, ever since the conference tourney we've been getting steady contributions from Boat, DD, Giffey in several areas, and have had key guys come off the bench and provide a spark in TSam and Brimah. If they ignored the conf tourney in favor of the big boy tourneys fine, but how can someone watch the St Joes, Nova, Iowa St, and Mich St games and think Bazz is doing this all by himself? Rothstein is a weirdo but I at least thought he watched a ton of games and could speak from an informed viewpoint, and even this guy was on Francesa yesterday and said Bazz is doing this all by himself, I don't get how someone could say that when DD just had a dominant 27 & 10 performance 2 days before.
 

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These guys clearly haven't been paying attention. They are just spouting BS.
 
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These guys clearly haven't been paying attention. They are just spouting BS.
Pre-set narrative laziness.

It's a better story to either ignore us, or to compare Shabazz to his mentor, Kemba.

Ooo, look, history repeats itself!

Rather than the reality: a talented team finds its identity late, and plays well above seed. They have that in Kentucky. They don't want it in UConn, because some of our players aren't freshmen.
 
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This type of nonsense is utterly ridiculous. I mean, based on what, Jeff? We have actually beaten them before (Daniels had 14 and 7, and played 37 minutes), we've already played Louisville three times, and we just dismissed the no. 2, the no. 3 and the no. 4 seeds in our bracket.

Exactly what else would it take for Daniels to be ready to face Florida (again)? He's an idiot.
Not to mention that Daniels had his best game in months against Iowa State, which, like any NCAA tournament game, was the biggest game of the year to that point.
It's fine to pick Florida to win but they ought to have, you know, reasons.
 
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Not sure why everyone gets bent when the pundits don't pick our team.
Just to play Devil's Advocate here, Hill had 10 assists in a game in the tourny. There's only been 3 freshmen in the history of the NCAA tournament to do that (Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Keith Gatlin), and he could potentially be a first round pick this year or a lottery pick next. I've been impressed by Samuels in limited minutes, but there's a talent gap there.

Wilbekin won SEC Player of the Year, just like Napier won AAC Player of the Year. Wilbekin mostly for his defense, Napier mostly for his offense. But oh yeah, Wilbekin shoots the same percentage from 3 as Napier. Different players, but not inconceivable to put them on the same tier (without saying Wilbekin is better, because he's not).

You don't win 36 games (with the only 2 losses coming on the road against Final Four teams) without great players, you just don't. Remember, we've been excited about UConn's defense in this tournament, but Florida has been the best defensive team in the country all year.

Let's put it this way: If we were to have captains pick teams from the two rosters, how would it play out. Probably Napier first. Then? I'd say Wilbekin. Then probably Patric Young (monster on D and boards) or Casey Prather (guy lit us up last game). 3 out of the first 4 from Florida. Probably Daniels next (he could potentially go in front of 1 or both the previous guys depending on how confident in which Daniels will show). I'd pick Frazier ahead of Boatright due to size, better shooting, and defense (although Boatright has been great on D in the tournament). That's 3 Florida guards (if you call Prather a guard) picked before Boatright. Again, not inconceivable to say their backcourt is on the same level as ours. Let's say Brimah goes after Boatright. Then Finney-Smith, then next 3 are Giffey, KHill and Yeguette in some order.

Florida has an incredibly solid 7 man rotation. Hill would start for most teams and Yeguette would be most team's Giffey/glue guy (4th or 5th best player). We've got 1 great player, 2 pretty good players, plus Brimah's arms, Giffey's shooting and Kromah's defense. Nolan's been pretty solid this tournament, but let's see how he handles Patric Young... I'm not optimistic in his chances.

UConn (obviously) can beat Florida. But if I were betting a fortune on the game in Vegas, of course I'd pick Florida. The game isn't being played at Gampel (huge factor in the first game) or MSG.

To summarize:
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I hate logic!
 
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Coincidentally, Jeff Borzello (a CBS expert) just did a similar exercise to what I just did. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas.../ranking-the-top-20-players-in-the-final-four

Results:
UConn - 1, 10, 12, 19, 20. B-24 Total = 86
Florida- 3, 6, 11, 13, 18. B-21 Total = 72

And he was more generous to Boatright and Daniels in their placement relative to Frazier, Prather than I was. (Though much more negative on Brimah. Think he's vastly underrated).
 

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Notice their combined record is a losing one. Gottlieb is the worst. The worst was the ESPN knobs that declared that the MSU-UVa game was the "real" final.
Katz actually said that UVa gets partial credit for the UConn wins because they "tired out" MSU. Seriously? Seriously Andy?

Look, let them all pick against us. As long as this guy is on our side, I like our chances:
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We are doooomed!
 
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Speaking of Senhor- how long has he been hiding in the boneyard title? I just saw that today and lost it
 
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Katz actually said that UVa gets partial credit for the UConn wins because they "tired out" MSU. Seriously? Seriously Andy?

Look, let them all pick against us. As long as this guy is on our side, I like our chances:
senhor-testiculo-03.jpg

Disclaimer:
We are doooomed!
Are you serious? I didn't realize the NCAA tournament was rec league designed for 40 year olds. I mean, geez...if teams can still play well on back-to-back-to-back nights in their conference tournaments (not even considering the special back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back), I'm pretty sure they could have a tough 40 minutes one night and not be tired a mere two days later.

Katz is embarrassing himself. If we weren't DOOMED, I'd say that I hope we embarrass him.
 
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And if we happened to win the whole thing the talking head hype machine will act like the FF never happened ( just like '99) rather than admit they were wrong to discount the underdog. The pundits will talk 60% baseball and 40 % about how football is now a "year round" sport.

Let the haters hate, life is good when the trophy case is full.

Don't laugh. I've seen it happen.

Prior to the '69 Super Bowl, the network affiliates in Dallas, Austin and San Antonio were ridiculous in any discussion of the Jets and Namath. The Jets were a collection of female parts and Namath was the boss wussy (The women's movement started in the early '70's). This went on night after night.

Anticipating the chance to watch a huge crow being consumed, I awaited the nightly news. I think it was the Dallas station. I was surprised when the Super Bowl didn't lead either news or sports. Finally, the sport's guy, after covering really inconsequential local stuff, closed his segment with,

"and in the NFL, it was Jets-16, Colts-7."

That was it. the game that made the Super Bowl the SUPER Bowl! It might as well have been a score from a bowling league.
 

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Speaking of Senhor- how long has he been hiding in the boneyard title? I just saw that today and lost it
For a while. Not only is he there, but he moves around from time to time.
 
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Not to mention that Daniels had his best game in months against Iowa State, which, like any NCAA tournament game, was the biggest game of the year to that point.
It's fine to pick Florida to win but they ought to have, you know, reasons.

CBS has "reasons." Or, at least a reason. It's called not wanting to do/say anything that might compromise it's relationship with the "Party of the Second Part (SEC Football)." :rolleyes:;)
 
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the media coverage of this team during the tourney is one of the oddest things I've seen. I get the criticism of our supporting cast during the regular season because I was pissed at Boat and DD's play during both conf and nonconference play, and I was urging Giffey to pull the trigger more when open, but outside of the Louisville game, ever since the conference tourney we've been getting steady contributions from Boat, DD, Giffey in several areas, and have had key guys come off the bench and provide a spark in TSam and Brimah. If they ignored the conf tourney in favor of the big boy tourneys fine, but how can someone watch the St Joes, Nova, Iowa St, and Mich St games and think Bazz is doing this all by himself? Rothstein is a weirdo but I at least thought he watched a ton of games and could speak from an informed viewpoint, and even this guy was on Francesa yesterday and said Bazz is doing this all by himself, I don't get how someone could say that when DD just had a dominant 27 & 10 performance 2 days before.

99% of these guys in the media only watch one end of the floor. The guys from CBS have Giffey as the 18th best starter in the tournament, behind guys like Josh Gasser, and nine spots behind James Young. If I had to choose between Giffey and Young for one game, I'm taking Giffey and not thinking twice.
 
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Gary Parrish said:
Comment: Wilbekin is only averaging 13.4 points and 3.7 assists. But he's clearly the most important player on the nation's top-ranked team, and the Gators are actually undefeated this season in games in which Wilkebin was neither suspended nor injured.

Parrish put Wilbekin on his first team AA. I don't have a problem with that, really. And it's not like Shabazz wasn't on the list. But, again, this drives me nuts. Yes, Wilbekin missed the last two minutes or so, but he played 35 minutes. That's more than he averages on the year.

I get that this is more praise for Florida than knocking UConn...and that they probably had a word limit...but this goes with the full-season narrative they've had: Florida wasn't healthy! That's why they lost!

They were fine. You want to argue 2 minutes at the end of the game, fine. I might listen. But Wilbekin played the game. He wasn't great in the game (more TOs than assists), but that wasn't because he was injured.
 
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Florida better be up in the final minutes by at least that much if they want to win. With Bazz the killer and the way we shoot free throws no team wants us close at the end of the game because they are going down. The moron that thinks DD cant handle the moment or we cant as a team should go find another line of work. this team has 3 players that has won a national title and this team has beaten 3 highly seeded teams including one that was picked by many to win it all. Im calling it right now if this team beats Florida they will not be denied. Book it!
 

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Parrish put Wilbekin on his first team AA. I don't have a problem with that, really. And it's not like Shabazz wasn't on the list. But, again, this drives me nuts. Yes, Wilbekin missed the last two minutes or so, but he played 35 minutes. That's more than he averages on the year.

And IIRC, Florida scored on every possession while he was sitting. Do I RC?
 
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And IIRC, Florida scored on every possession while he was sitting. Do I RC?
Indeed. Although the argument could be that he is a defensive stopper, and could have slowed Shabazz down...but our baskets in the last 2 minutes came from FTs (which we shot 4-7 in the last 3:17) and offensive rebounds...and therefore broken plays that defenses typically can't deal with. Since Wilbekin is 6'2" it's unlikely his presence would have done anything.

And, I don't remember who he was playing, but Shabazz shot 9-15...so, it's not like he slowed him down a ton if it was Napier. Boatright had an off game (2-8), but that was no different than any of his early games against P5 schools, so it's not like we can really say that was Wilbekin.
 
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Are you serious? I didn't realize the NCAA tournament was rec league designed for 40 year olds. I mean, geez...if teams can still play well on back-to-back-to-back nights in their conference tournaments (not even considering the special back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back), I'm pretty sure they could have a tough 40 minutes one night and not be tired a mere two days later.

Katz is embarrassing himself. If we weren't DOOMED, I'd say that I hope we embarrass him.

Katz actually said that UVa gets partial credit for the UConn wins because they "tired out" MSU. Seriously? Seriously Andy?

Look, let them all pick against us. As long as this guy is on our side, I like our chances:
senhor-testiculo-03.jpg

Disclaimer:
We are doooomed!
If you remember this is the same excuse they gave why we would not go far in the 2011 tourny - we would be too tired after 5 games in the BE tourny. They are just too smart for me.
 
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And if we happened to win the whole thing the talking head hype machine will act like the FF never happened ( just like '99) rather than admit they were wrong to discount the underdog. The pundits will talk 60% baseball and 40 % about how football is now a "year round" sport.

Let the haters hate, life is good when the trophy case is full.
No they will say our 7 seed was an easy road and that we got the play "home games" in NYC (not that anyone every said a word about MSU playing in Detroit in the FF). If we win they will say that FLA had a "bad game"- just like MSU had a "bad game". Good Defense creates bad games. If we can keep up the D it will be a fun game to watch.

WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!
 
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Katz actually said that UVa gets partial credit for the UConn wins because they "tired out" MSU. Seriously? Seriously Andy?

Look, let them all pick against us. As long as this guy is on our side, I like our chances:
senhor-testiculo-03.jpg

Disclaimer:
We are doooomed!

Katz really said that? LOL. Uconn had to play the team with one of the fastest paces in the game the same day. With less of a rotation and reliance on one player. Oh boy.

Talking heads are talking heads because they re not good enough to do it themselves. Like college professors, except a lot less honorable
 
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