OT: The average fan could score 20 points in an NBA game.

[superjohn]

Doable. Similarly, the average golfer can hit some fairways and sink some putts on a TPC too. Bowlers can bowl strikes. It's not like trying to hit a 95 mph fastball over the fence or return a 120 mph tennis serve for a point. Those are damn near impossible.

The pro golfers aren't in your face guarding you and the pro bowlers aren't throwing bowling balls at you.

It's hilarious you think you would score in a NBA game.

 

[Kolumbo]

Even really good golfers, scratch handicap, will tell you they can’t compete with pros.

Of course they can't compete with the pros. Even most pros can't compete with the top pros. Hitting a couple fairways and putts is a far cry from consistently hitting under par on a TPC.

 

[Icehawk]

Hold on there professor. I didn't say I could score a contested shot. Any pro team would be foolish to spend any energy at all guarding me. If they were smart, they'd let me, the worst player in the history of the association, shoot wide open threes all day long and they'd win the game handily. All I'm saying is the average player could make a handful of shots. No question.

My wife's the professor but move the goalposts wherever you need so you can feel like you can somehow score in a NBA game - personally I don't think it matters one whit, you ain't scoring 20 and would be lucky to score 1 off a FT.

Not saying in an empty gym you can't drain 3s all day, maybe you can but it's a lot different than in a game.

 

[MexicoHusky]

This discussion has changed from 'can you score 20 in an nba game' to can you make 10 wide open shots within a 48 minute period of time. They are not the same.

 

[Kolumbo]

The pro golfers aren't in your face guarding you and the pro bowlers aren't throwing bowling balls at you.

It's hilarious you think you would score in a NBA game.

It's hilarious you think you can make an argument. You need to understand the various aspects of sports. Putting a basketball through a hoop is easy, which is why they score in the 100's. Some do it at a 40% clip, some maybe at a 5% clip. But anyone can score. Hockey is hard, average players won't score. Take a chill pequeno juan.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

So if we concoct this imaginary scenario where your teammate is Durant and your coach doesn't care that your man scores absolutely at will.... sure maybe you can score 20.

Is this imaginary person 6' 9"? Because I think you're drastically underestimating the size and quickness of the average NBA player. Most average American men would look like slow moving dwarves if they were dropped into an NBA game.

 

[Kolumbo]

This discussion has changed from 'can you score 20 in an nba game' to can you make 10 wide open shots within a 48 minute period of time. They are not the same.

It happens to be the same discussion if you read the original premise.

 

[Jaydumo20]

There’s a video of scalabrine playing one on one against guys who played ball in college, he demolishes them

It's the best video. The dude played for cuse too. There are plenty of people on this very boneyard who think they can coach better than Hurley. I'd looooove to see these guys coach a D1 team. Even if you coach a highschool team, the probability is you would be severely outmatched at the D1 even D3 level.

 

[Kolumbo]

If you are teammates with Kevin Durant and he's constantly being double teamed, you may get some shots. You may even make a few. Scoring 20 still seems highly unlikely.

All that said, we are not really addressing defense. Your man is going to easily score double his average. Maybe 3 or 4 times. You'll never get in the game unless we ignore that reality.

So if we concoct this imaginary scenario where your teammate is Durant and your coach doesn't care that your man scores absolutely at will.... sure maybe you can score 20.

Exactly. Of course it's imaginary, what NBA coach on Earth would play an average fan? That's all the dude was saying.

 

[T-Squared]

I was a decent baller back in my UConn days. Played with/against some Husky walk-ons. I got schooled every trip down the floor guarding Vincente Ithier. Defensively, he locked me up - I couldn’t get a shot off against him. Vincente wound up playing some significant Big East minutes when Phil Gamble had his academic miscue. Vincente also played for the Puerto Rican Olympic team.

The skill gap between a typical DI walk-on and an NBA player is as wide as the Grand Canyon. The skill gap between typical NBA fan and an NBA player is the distance between the earth and the moon.

Twenty points in a game? A fan wouldn’t get 20 points in a full season even under the “play no D, feed me” rules.

 

[MexicoHusky]

Is this imaginary person 6' 9"? Because I think you're drastically underestimating the size and quickness of the average NBA player. Most average American men would look like slow moving dwarves if they were dropped into an NBA game.

My imaginary scenario has no height requirement. Instead I would require the imaginary person receives the ball a minimum of 15 times per game. With no defenders within 15'. Under those requirements and over an entire NBA season, I think an average person can score 20 points at least one time.

 

[JellyBean]

Ain't no way an average fan going to get 20 points in an NBA game. Unless that fan is 7'6", can get up and down the court at a decent rate, and has some weight on them. If that happens, that average is about to get a 10 Day contract.

 

[MexicoHusky]

It happens to be the same discussion if you read the original premise.

Good point. I missed the stipulation that no defense is required.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

as i age on the hardwood, the funniest (tho definitely not funny) realization is that the quickness slowly dissolves. not necessarily the jumping or banging or most other stuff, but the quickness to respond to an opponents offense. somehow, and in spite of seeing it coming, knowing it's coming, mentally preparing for it to come, the body sez 'too bad for u, and good luck. mebbe he'll travel.' i think it stems from not wanting to break any more body parts. they seem to take much longer to heal. oh, well.
ya gotta laugh. time marches on.
im headin back to high school. i know that i can dominate there. well, some schools, at least. yup, id be a star on the podunk high girls team,
mebbe even get a sniff from geno. mebbe not.

 

[Kolumbo]

What's all this talk of defense anyway. it's the NBA. Even Jordan didn't think it necessary to get on Muggsy Bogues.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

For those who think you've added nothing of value to this thread...

With mentions of bowling and golf, I like this mixed metaphor...

Putting a basketball through a hoop is easy...

Not a putter, but this is the best I could find:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

 

[MexicoHusky]

Exactly. Of course it's imaginary, what NBA coach on Earth would play an average fan? That's all the dude was saying.

I now understand defense isn't part of the equation.

You still have to drastically manipulate offense and how the opposing defenders guard you. You have to turn nba basketball into a shoot around for an average fan to have a chance.

 

[Kolumbo]

For those who think you've added nothing of value to this thread...

With mentions of bowling and golf, I like this mixed metaphor...


Not a putter, but this is the best I could find:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Don't tell me you've never heard of Dude Perfect.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

'The players do their best but so do the opponents—George is sacked for losses, does very little right and even runs into a goal post, knocking himself cold.'

i guess walter mitty was his dad.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I was a decent baller back in my UConn days. Played with/against some Husky walk-ons. I got schooled every trip down the floor guarding Vincente Ithier. Defensively, he locked me up - I couldn’t get a shot off against him. Vincente wound up playing some significant Big East minutes when Phil Gamble had his academic miscue. Vincente also played for the Puerto Rican Olympic team.

The skill gap between a typical DI walk-on and an NBA player is as wide as the Grand Canyon. The skill gap between typical NBA fan and an NBA player is the distance between the earth and the moon.

Twenty points in a game? A fan wouldn’t get 20 points in a full season even under the “play no D, feed me” rules.

This is a very honest assessment. Unfortunately I think there are just a bunch of trolls on here, as previously mentioned. It may fall on deaf ears

 

[ColchVEGAS]

Insane. No way an average person scores 20 in any NBA game ever. In my UConn days I was sadly one of those that thought being an average ball player meant I could take on a D1 women's player just due to my physical strength. I remember being humbled playing pick up one morning and having to guard one of the women's players, a player who did not many minutes at all, and let's just say I looked like a fool. Got two buckets all game, one on a kick out 3 where she dropped down to double and another on a 2 on 1 fast break. I do not want to admit how many she drained literally in my face. NBA level is laughable to think the average person would sniff more than 1 lucky bucket.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

If the point is hyperbole addressing the defense in NBA games its a good point.
The NBA game vs the college is constructed to allow more offense.
that’s just a fact. Although I’m typically a critic of some rule changes or interpretations that can make the game a caricature of its intent some of those rules actually enhance the game.
Using the term average fan is a tad over. the top as most of the guys sitting in the visable seats couldn’t run up an down the required 10 times dribbling a basketball if they were alone on the court. Add to that the 20 attempts before a layup fell and there is a distinct possibility of medical attention being required.

 

[Jaydumo20]

Even really good golfers, scratch handicap, will tell you they can’t compete with pros.

I wish this were true all the time. I've played many rounds with absolute liars who have said- "I could've played on the Nike tour, but I said no because I value my free time too much" or some such nonsense. I think you have to be a very special type of person to view your greatest skill as not even close to being up to snuff.

 

[CL82]

Reminds me of the old stupid argument "Would you go in the ring with prime Mike Tyson for 1 round for a million dollars?" Anyone off the street would leave that ring in a bodybag. No question about it. 100% guaranteed.

I was thinking exactly this.

I remember Ernie Shavers was in line for getting the Clubber Lang roll in Rocky III. At one point he was asked to spar with Stallone to see if they had “ring chemistry.“. Stallone, who by that time was pretty ripped, tells Shavers to hit him once in the stomach at full power. Ernie kept on declining but Stallone insisted. Shavers hit him and Stallone literally went down in tears. He said his whole body hurt. Shavers didn’t end up getting the role, and afterwards he was asked did he really hit Stallone at full power. His answer? “About 25%.”

 

[the Q]

If the point is hyperbole addressing the defense in NBA games its a good point.
The NBA game vs the college is constructed to allow more offense.
that’s just a fact. Although I’m typically a critic of some rule changes or interpretations that can make the game a caricature of its intent some of those rules actually enhance the game.
Using the term average fan is a tad over. the top as most of the guys sitting in the visable seats couldn’t run up an down the required 10 times dribbling a basketball if they were alone on the court. Add to that the 20 attempts before a layup fell and there is a distinct possibility of medical attention being required.

That’s why I call the nba sports entertainment

And that crap trickles down to the lower levels

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

My imaginary scenario has no height requirement. Instead I would require the imaginary person receives the ball a minimum of 15 times per game. With no defenders within 15'. Under those requirements and over an entire NBA season, I think an average person can score 20 points at least one time.

Okay. But that's just shooting in an empty gym.

 

[Beowulf]

i think people underestimate how fast an nba game moves pace-wise. there's a reason you'll see clips of nba nobodies hitting 80/85 three pointers shooting around but then watch them shoot 33% on the season. those wide open kick out shots are not the same as driving and kicking in a lazy rec league game. not to mention how big an nba court is compared to what an average rec league guy plays on.

that being said, could an average dude score in a game? sure. flukes happen - people can make shots. could a rando grab a rebound or dish out an assist? sure, sometimes the ball finds you. could a rando score 20 points?? no shot. there is no scenario where the other team is just gonna let you leak out like that repeatedly. so his dream hypothetical scenario is him making 10 uncontested layups after cherry picking?? what would that even prove even if it was possible

 

[MexicoHusky]

Okay. But that's just shooting in an empty gym.

I think that's what this discussion has come to

 

[uconnfan68]

Of course they can't compete with the pros. Even most pros can't compete with the top pros. Hitting a couple fairways and putts is a far cry from consistently hitting under par on a TPC.

Hitting a couple of fairways, maybe... if they aren't cut for tournaments. And making any putts? Not much chance in tournament conditions. On the same hole? Nope.

We played at TPC RiverHighlands a week after the tournament (in a benefit outing), and the conditions were tournament like. It was brutal. Greens were like concrete. Fairways were too. Almost impossible to hit to a green and keep it on. Stimpmeter was around 12-13.

 

[olehead]

Not sure whether this helps since we are pondering fan success to score on NBAers, but walk-ons at high D-1's struggle to score in practices and generally the walk-ons at that level are fairly accomplished as ball-players. Our walk-on was an all-city, second-team all state guy, who at 6'7" struggled to get his shot off in practice.