The Athletic on Edsall

[whaler11]

UConn coach Randy Edsall has something to say

I love that this athletic department can’t even get a good story about the coach written without the AD saying the exact opposite.

I love Benedict’s reasoning. I loved Southern Utah so you guys can all eat poop.

Between Corey, the ticket price stuff and this - is there any way these guys don’t hate each other?

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I've read the article too. One takeaway is that Edsall definitely cares for the players and his outspokenness in that regard could help long-term with recruits. He's shown that he'll stick his neck out for players' rights.

 

[History Geek]

I've read the article too. One takeaway is that Edsall definitely cares for the players and his outspokenness in that regard could help long-term with recruits. He's shown that he'll stick his neck out for players' rights.

I was also struck by the implied rationale the author gave for our relatively low number of 2019 offers. Edsall has spoken against the practice of “non-committable” offers, so if we offer we really think you are a good fit for the program and we really want you. This also fits the “tough love player’s coach” narrative.

 

[JMick]

can someone besides whaler give a tl;dr. I don't trust his opinions anything university related and I'm not paying for the athletic

 

[whaler11]

can someone besides whaler give a tl;dr. I don't trust his opinions anything university related and I'm not paying for the athletic

lol it was only a small part of the article -

Edsall is for giving the players more money, it's a full time job - he's become a bit of an activist. He's like a CEO - his father was tough, Coughlin was tough. Terry Richardson said a bunch of nice things. Article pointed out the irony of him walking out after Fiesta Bowl - noted he apologized.

It's just hilarious that someone writes a pro-Edsall article and there is the AD talking about how he would have paid to play at Southern Utah.

 

[JMick]

lol it was only a small part of the article -

Edsall is for giving the players more money, it's a full time job - he's become a bit of an activist. He's like a CEO - his father was tough, Coughlin was tough. Terry Richardson said a bunch of nice things. Article pointed out the irony of him walking out after Fiesta Bowl - noted he apologized.

It's just hilarious that someone writes a pro-Edsall article and there is the AD talking about how he would have paid to play at Southern Utah.

Benedict said that he would have paid money to play football at Southern Utah?

 

[whaler11]

Benedict said that he would have paid money to play football at Southern Utah?

Here you go.

“Randy’s expression is really based on his interest in student-athlete welfare,” Benedict told The Athletic. “I don’t necessarily agree with him as it relates to getting into a compensation model for student-athletes. I do think the changes made over the past several years with cost of attendance and meals and those things has addressed a lot of the concerns. There’s ongoing conversations about name/image likeness and those things that hopefully we’ll be able to address down the road.”

UConn’s cost of attendance stipend is around $2,800 for in-state costs, Benedict said. A former player at Southern Utah, Benedict enjoyed his college experience so much that he didn’t feel like he needed to be paid, saying he would have paid for it. He also notes UConn isn’t in a position to afford to pay athletes the way an Alabama would. Edsall’s salary in 2017 was $1 million, less than some of Nick Saban’s assistants.

 

[History Geek]

...Between Corey, the ticket price stuff and this - is there any way these guys don’t hate each other?

can someone besides whaler give a tl;dr. I don't trust his opinions anything university related and I'm not paying for the athletic

You can sign up for it for free and get three free articles a month.

 

[JMick]

Here you go.

“Randy’s expression is really based on his interest in student-athlete welfare,” Benedict told The Athletic. “I don’t necessarily agree with him as it relates to getting into a compensation model for student-athletes. I do think the changes made over the past several years with cost of attendance and meals and those things has addressed a lot of the concerns. There’s ongoing conversations about name/image likeness and those things that hopefully we’ll be able to address down the road.”

UConn’s cost of attendance stipend is around $2,800 for in-state costs, Benedict said. A former player at Southern Utah, Benedict enjoyed his college experience so much that he didn’t feel like he needed to be paid, saying he would have paid for it. He also notes UConn isn’t in a position to afford to pay athletes the way an Alabama would. Edsall’s salary in 2017 was $1 million, less than some of Nick Saban’s assistants.

well that's a stupid thing to say

 

[whaler11]

well that's a stupid thing to say

It's also HIS FAULT they pay a coach less than Saban's assistants, but they let him frame it as support for his nonsense.

 

[JMick]

It's also HIS FAULT they pay a coach less than Saban's assistants, but they let him frame it as support for his nonsense.

that I don't agree with. It's not his fault the school is broke and that we didn't start playing big boy football until the 2000s.

 

[whaler11]

that I don't agree with. It's not his fault the school is broke and that we didn't start playing big boy football until the 2000s.

Keep telling yourself that. SuzieLax and Benedict are the true victims!!!

 

[JMick]

Keep telling yourself that. SuzieLax and Benedict are the true victims!!!

No I blame Susan for the majority of our current predicament. Benedict is just supposed to salvage something from the disaster he inherited. Still TBD on that one

 

[whaler11]

No I blame Susan for the majority of our current predicament. Benedict is just supposed to salvage something from the disaster he inherited. Still TBD on that one

Benedict is trying to salvage one thing and one thing only: his career. Hopefully he finds a landing spot soon.

 

[JMick]

Benedict is trying to salvage one thing and one thing only: his career. Hopefully he finds a landing spot soon.

let's be real. as long as Hurley isn't a bust then he did his job. only time will tell on that one.

 

[whaler11]

let's be real. as long as Hurley isn't a bust then he did his job. only time will tell on that one.

He didn't screw up a guy who seemed to want to hire himself. He does have that going for him. Stain isn't wrong - he's on fire to get out of here.

I mean a program that is completely forgotten.... gets a big national outlet to write a puff piece and he completely contradicts the football coach who did him a favor coming for below market value.

Who does that?

 

[JMick]

He didn't screw up a guy who seemed to want to hire himself. He does have that going for him. Stain isn't wrong - he's on fire to get out of here.

I mean a program that is completely forgotten.... gets a big national outlet to write a puff piece and he completely contradicts the football coach who did him a favor coming for below market value.

Who does that?

I just hope he stays here longer than Herbst does. I don't want her involved in hiring another AD. I don't think Benedict was a bad pick, and I don't think he's done a bad job, but I don't think he knew what he was in for when he accepted this position. Someone is going to have to make a tough decision regarding football in the near future and I don't think he wants to be that person

 

[huskyrob1]

that I don't agree with. It's not his fault the school is broke and that we didn't start playing big boy football until the 2000s.

Brings up an interesting hypothetical about how different UConn football history might of been. If the right people had pushed for it, and UConn had started playing FBS football around 1985, and if Toner had been looking for a football coach on the same young and hungry level as Geno and JC, then our first coach might have been Kirk Ferentz, Pete Carroll, or even Nick Saban. All three were bucking for a mid level head coaching job around that time. Ferentz had graduated from UConn just nine years before. I'll say one thing for John Toner, he knew what he had in an interviewee after the first few minutes. I wonder how long it would have taken him to see through Diaco?

 

[UConnNick]

Brings up an interesting hypothetical about how different UConn football history might of been. If the right people had pushed for it, and UConn had started playing FBS football around 1985, and if Toner had been looking for a football coach on the same young and hungry level as Geno and JC, then our first coach might have been Kirk Ferentz, Pete Carroll, or even Nick Saban. All three were bucking for a mid level head coaching job around that time. Ferentz had graduated from UConn just nine years before. I'll say one thing for John Toner, he knew what he had in an interviewee after the first few minutes. I wonder how long it would have taken him to see through Diaco?

A blind man would be able to see through Diaco. Reading or watching any of his comments regarding the Te'o imaginary girl friend nonsense should have caused anyone to conclude that the guy's elevator never reaches the top floor because he doesn't have one.

 

[huskyrob1]

A blind man would be able to see through Diaco. Reading or watching any of his comments regarding the Te'o imaginary girl friend nonsense should have caused anyone to conclude that the guy's elevator never reaches the top floor because he doesn't have one.

Yes but as I asked in my post "how fast"? My sense with Toner interviewing Diaco my guess is Toner would have known what he had in about 20 seconds.

 

[whaler11]

I just hope he stays here longer than Herbst does. I don't want her involved in hiring another AD. I don't think Benedict was a bad pick, and I don't think he's done a bad job, but I don't think he knew what he was in for when he accepted this position. Someone is going to have to make a tough decision regarding football in the near future and I don't think he wants to be that person

Fair point about who makes the hire.

 

[huskyrob1]

I just hope he stays here longer than Herbst does. I don't want her involved in hiring another AD. I don't think Benedict was a bad pick, and I don't think he's done a bad job, but I don't think he knew what he was in for when he accepted this position. Someone is going to have to make a tough decision regarding football in the near future and I don't think he wants to be that person

Near future? Lol. That could mean tomorrow, next year, or the next decade. Care to elaborate? He did make a tough decision when he fired Ollie.

 

[metsfan2323]

All AD Dave has done in just two years on the job is bring excellent coaching back to Football and Basketball. How a supposed "Fan" can find fault in that is beyond my comprehension.

The UCONN stalker who started this thread has been on a personal fatwa against AD Dave since the Orlovsky "idiot" comment came out in December. That was his springboard for non-stop criticism of the AD. Notice how he constantly criticizes frothy athletic department spending while simultaneously criticizing the "low pay" of our football coaches. Obviously he will find fault in anything and everything. The AD will always be wrong. In this thread the AD is now being criticized for saying our athletes are being compensated enough. Given that the athletic department currently operates at a substantial net loss I think most would agree with the AD.

Keep on stalking J-A-C-K-A-S-S.

 

[champs99and04]

I don't like Benedict one bit and his comments reek of corporate snark. That said, anyone who is asked publicly about paying players is in a tough spot, especially when your athletic department is broke. I would settle for him paying coaches that he willingly extended.

 

[whaler11]

All AD Dave has done in just two years on the job is bring excellent coaching back to Football and Basketball. How a supposed "Fan" can find fault in that is beyond my comprehension.

The UCONN stalker who started this thread has been on a personal fatwa against AD Dave since the Orlovsky "idiot" comment came out in December. That was his springboard for non-stop criticism of the AD. Notice how he constantly criticizes frothy athletic department spending while simultaneously criticizing the "low pay" of our football coaches. Obviously he will find fault in anything and everything. The AD will always be wrong. In this thread the AD is now being criticized for saying our athletes are being compensated enough. Given that the athletic department currently operates at a substantial net loss I think most would agree with the AD.

Keep on stalking J-A-C-K-A-S-S.

LOL. You are wrong a lot - you are even more wrong than usual.

Yeah the only thing Benedict has done is hire the last two coaches.

You do realize why they had to hire a scrap heap failure for $1 million right?

Maybe before we crown him the king of coaching hires Edsall could win some games this go round? Excellent? The guy is 95-106 as a head coach. Somewhere south of ‘excellent’ by most definitions.

Why don’t grace us with more of your conference realignment wisdom lol.

I guess if I had Mets in my name I might crack too - who do you blame for their problems Matt Harvey?