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Any minute spent over the next two weeks not spent on figuring out a way to block at the lowest acceptable level is a minute that is completely wasted. The entire team should watch film, read books, and be in pads blocking for little old ladies at the pharmacy as they have their prescriptions filled if that's what it takes. We are riding a two-wheeled tricycle wondering why we are riding in circles and arguing whether we should mount a bell or horn on the handlebars.
 
Forte said:
Two losses away from being ineligible for post season .... I ask how does this benefit the program in any way for the future?
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How does 10+ sacks a game, constant turnovers due to relentless pressure, and highly likely injury possibilities benefit our program for the future? Shirreffs and Davis are both dual threat QBs coming into the program next season. You implement read-option now and then hope for the best next year that someone from the Boyle/Shirreffs/Davis camp can hit the ground running. OL has more than a half season to block in a read-option and you also can develop the backs to play in read-option (which is equally as important). Along the way, we just might be able to move the ball more than a few feet per possession, score some points, win some games and gain some confidence heading into next year.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
Palatine said:
Next year when Whitmer is gone it will be an open competition again. Even if Boyle wins, the NC State transfer and the LI frosh (both Diaco recruits) will be given a much better chance than Boyle has gotten this far.

At this point Diaco is the last person left in Connecticut who still believes in CW.

HCBD said he would give Boyle the 4th series. The 4th series started in the red zone after a fumble, a great place to start. Instead, Diaco who believes Whitmer has special red zone skills changed the plan and sent in his pet player. Whitmer lost yards and more yards and turned great field position into a 45 yard FG - which was missed.

So much for Boyle's fair chance. He got the next possession much further away from points.
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Nothing says "should be starting" like a QB rating under 64.

He had the worst QB rating in football last year and it's lower this year.

What are you expecting out of him?
 
I don't think Diaco has given Boyle a fair shot. A fair shot would be to start him and play Tim for at least a half; preferably a game. CW has repeatedly been given that chance and has been quite frankly a total disaster.
 
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It disappoints me that We may never know how well Boyle can play. Last year thrown into the jaws of our schedule with a new head coach, not a reasonable audition. Witmer may be a good guy but he is not the guy. Give Boyle a shot thru the end of the year. He has a great arm and quick slants, posts should be effective. If not, let him transfer and let other top state programs send their players elsewhere. Diaco is becoming the first UConn coach I have ever hated. Now let the traditional Boneyard mudslinging begin.
 
Here's what's not working- Whitmer. If we don't see more Boyle next game, then you have ask the question is it personal.

Diaco has burned up his good will with generally poor, mistake laden efforts. So, the harder questions have to start to be asked. Got to stick with guy, but we don't have the luxury of giving him a free pass either.
 
uconn34 said:
It disappoints me that We may never know how well Boyle can play. Last year thrown into the jaws of our schedule with a new head coach, not a reasonable audition. Witmer may be a good guy but he is not the guy. Give Boyle a shot thru the end of the year. He has a great arm and quick slants, posts should be effective. If not, let him transfer and let other top state programs send their players elsewhere. Diaco is becoming the first UConn coach I have ever hated. Now let the traditional Boneyard mudslinging begin.
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No mudsling however -
1. There are already mutliple QB and Boyle posts - we didnt need another.
2. If the UConn staff is going to start calling slants for Boyle and not Whitmer I dont know what to say. The pass playcalling should be 3 step drops for ALL QB's.
3. If you thought last year was NOT a reasonabe audition I dont know why you believe the rest of the year would be behind this OL. Last year the audition wasnt reasonable for Boyle for perfectly reasonable for Casy to shine. He had a bit of an audition on Saturday - didnt go too well - 1 for 4 and an overthrow to a wide open receiver caught by a thrid string DB wearing white.
4. No one is preventing him from transfering so if he would like to take his talents to South Beach or anywhere else he is free to do so. Dont make it sound like he is being prevented from being a future heisman candidate.
5. You are correct - Boyle is the savior and the answer - only our coaching staff doesnt see it that way - the paid professionals, the guys who have done this for a living.
6. Would you be clamoring this much for Boyle if he was from Illinois and not the 'local hero' who was told by his first school choice 'you dont fit our offense - look elsewhere' after a coaching change? Bob Diaco like the mobile QB - FACT, the same way Addazio does at BC. If you are going to tell me he is mobile I mean similar to Shireffs and Davis and Foxx mobile.


Go TEAM!!
 
The paid professionals did not realize that Casey would make such a huge difference. They are not infallible, that's why they get fired. This is a critical time in uconn football. IF this hire turns out to be a mistake, it places us in a hole from which we may never be able to climb out of.
 
Chief00 said:
Make no mistake, he plays in a very weak football conference. This doesn't mean he can't play, just means you can't extrapolate much.
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Agreed - but seriously impressive numbers...
373 on the ground? Wow!
 
Stinger92860 said:
The paid professionals did not realize that Casey would make such a huge difference. They are not infallible, that's why they get fired. This is a critical time in uconn football. IF this hire turns out to be a mistake, it places us in a hole from which we may never be able to climb out of.
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Agreed - but when they start listening to the locals on who should play they will probably get fired as well.

He had his audition - and now you want another - so be it - put him in...
When the coaches start listening to the fans its probably close to getting fired time anyways.
 
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I just want every Boyle post at the top of the board this am.
 
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I just want every Boyle post at the top of the board this am.
 
Srqhusky said:
Diaco is sparing Boyle from being seriously injured this year. I really believe that is why he is in there sporadically. Performes a few tailored plays then leaves
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I don't know about that. I think Whitmer is playing because Whitmer is better. Small sample I know but Boyle hasn't done anything well except be tall. But Whitmer is awful so we might as well give Boyle a chance.
 
Srqhusky said:
Diaco is sparing Boyle from being seriously injured this year. I really believe that is why he is in there sporadically. Performes a few tailored plays then leaves
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^^^THIS. Even in the few reps I've seen, Boyle looks better. More composed, certainly stronger are, doesn't loft balls to the sidelines. But he's not as mobile, and I think HCBD doesn't want his 2015 starter getting crushed.
 
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sdhusky said:
Nothing says "should be starting" like a QB rating under 64.

He had the worst QB rating in football last year and it's lower this year.

What are you expecting out of him?
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You prefer Whitmer who couldn't pass the put up 20 point barrier versus Towson or Stony Brook? How odd.
 
Palatine said:
You prefer Whitmer who couldn't pass the put up 20 point barrier versus Towson or Stony Brook? How odd.
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You prefer BY posters determining who plays - interesting concept.
Maybe we can do a poll each week for every position two deep and submit to HCBD?
 
Bonehead said:
You prefer BY posters determining who plays - interesting concept.
Maybe we can do a poll each week for every position two deep and submit to HCBD?
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I'm one of the few who still believes in our coach, and I don't live in CT and don't care where Tim Boyle is from. I saw him look poised in the pocket and throw a ball to sideline that wasn't over lofted pick-off material. That's all I need to see to say he's better that Whitmer. Boyle, Foxx, I don't care...Whitmer can't be allowed to play anymore. The offense was minus 6 yesterday, and that's generous since the pick 6 came in field goal range. So minus 9. 19 points surrendered or lost by the offense. Wait, CW took a sack to lose yards and cost us another FG too. Minus 12. I understand why Diaco stopped throwing against USF. For me it isn't "play Tim Boyle"...it's "play anybody but Whitmer".
 
I understood the attempt to regain Boyle's RS this year. But once CC was injured, once CW showed/reminded us he is who he is, and once HCBD admitted this was all about 2015 and beyond, the idea of playing Whitmer went out the window. Boyle may prove to be no better than CW, but if we are truly in a rebuilding mode the idea that TB sits in favor of CW makes no sense. Let's see what he has. IMO, playing CW is the equivalent of going w/trick shot Johnny a few years back.
 
Palatine said:
You prefer Whitmer who couldn't pass the put up 20 point barrier versus Towson or Stony Brook? How odd.
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I didn't say that. I did ask you what you expect out of Boyle when he does play? Do you expect he will put up the same kind of numbers he has last year and this year?

What do you expect?
 
sdhusky said:
I didn't say that. I did ask you what you expect out of Boyle when he does play? Do you expect he will put up the same kind of numbers he has last year and this year?

What do you expect?
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I expect that he will complete enough passes to begin to keep the defense honest. That he can operate out of the shotgun and burn the blitz enough times that it stops. That assumes that the OC calls enough quick pass plays. He doesn't look like a deer in the headlights back there. He isn't getting enough time, but he does have poise and composure, while Whitmer is running for his life as soon as he take the snap. Also...handoffs, who coached Whitmer to hand the ball off the way he does with his arm fully extended? It telegraphs the run and makes play action impossible. Yes, I think Boyle can even hand off better.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I expect that he will complete enough passes to begin to keep the defense honest. That he can operate out of the shotgun and burn the blitz enough times that it stops. That assumes that the OC calls enough quick pass plays. He doesn't look like a deer in the headlights back there. He isn't getting enough time, but he does have poise and composure, while Whitmer is running for his life as soon as he take the snap. Also...handoffs, who coached Whitmer to hand the ball off the way he does with his arm fully extended? It telegraphs the run and makes play action impossible. Yes, I think Boyle can even hand off better.
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Uggh. Look, I want Boyle to succeed as much as the next guy, because he is the future of this team, but there is nothing to suggest that anything you've said is true. In the game on Saturday, he took hits too. He threw a ridiculous INT too (with pocket protection, I might add). And he ended the day with a negative QB rating. That's right; a negative rating. Until I saw it on ESPN, I wasn't even aware that someone could have a negative rating.

The idea that this kid can fix what ails us (which is an OLine that cannot pass-protect) is simply ludicrous. The only point I agree with you on is that the play calls NEED to change in order to get the ball out of either QB's hands as soon as possible. Everything else is a pipe dream at this point, because it doesn't address the problem...
 
HuskyHawk said:
I expect that he will complete enough passes to begin to keep the defense honest. That he can operate out of the shotgun and burn the blitz enough times that it stops. That assumes that the OC calls enough quick pass plays. He doesn't look like a deer in the headlights back there. He isn't getting enough time, but he does have poise and composure, while Whitmer is running for his life as soon as he take the snap. Also...handoffs, who coached Whitmer to hand the ball off the way he does with his arm fully extended? It telegraphs the run and makes play action impossible. Yes, I think Boyle can even hand off better.
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I don't know why you or anyone else can think that. Boyle is 7/13 for 40 yds and an INT. His rating is 64. I also remember him being pretty bad last season, circumstances noted.

Now Whitmer is dead last in QBR among qualifying QBs, sacks being the biggest culprit. Problem is his rating is almost double that of Boyle, 118. So this savior you are waiting for isn't coming becuase he'll be on his back just as often. We best work on the running game.

There can be no joy in the QB dept this season until we can keep one upright. Then we can talk about who may or may not be a worthy QB.
 
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