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If Maryland gets out with significantly less than the 50 mil could they lose fsu gt unc UVA vt nc st and Clem? Would we want to be a part of that? The Big 12 sec and B1G could slice up the ACC.

If the ACC stays the way it is then I would be more than happy to be a part of it, but I hope sue is calling delany and even bowlsby.
 
If so then we could, ironically end up exactly where we started. Confererence USA has become the Big East. The Big East becomes the ACC. The names change but the players stay the same. Not the worst outcome. ;)
 
MD's exit fee hinges on a few things. First, they could get the UA guy to pay it and call it a day. Second, they could file a court action saying they voted against it, and basically try to convince the courts that the fee was unnecessarily exorbitant, unenforceable, or something, and negotiate a smaller fee. The only other school that could feasibly use this court route would be FSU, I can't see a court allowing other schools out who voted yes to the raised fee.
 
The previous threads ran through virtually every plausible scenario. Some good, some ok and others devastating. Have to see where all this goes.

husky210 said:
If Maryland gets out with significantly less than the 50 mil could they lose fsu gt unc UVA vt nc st and Clem? Would we want to be a part of that? The Big 12 sec and B1G could slice up the ACC.

If the ACC stays the way it is then I would be more than happy to be a part of it, but I hope sue is calling delany and even bowlsby.
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CL82 said:
If so then we could, ironically end up exactly where we started. Confererence USA has become the Big East. The Big East becomes the ACC. The names change but the players stay the same. Not the worst outcome. ;)
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This. a NN(N?)ACC minus Clemson and FSU is still better than any version of the BE going forward.
 
husky210 said:
If Maryland gets out with significantly less than the 50 mil could they lose fsu gt unc UVA vt nc st and Clem? Would we want to be a part of that? The Big 12 sec and B1G could slice up the ACC.

If the ACC stays the way it is then I would be more than happy to be a part of it, but I hope sue is calling delany and even bowlsby.
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I think Maryland will get a discount on the exit fee, and the Big 10 will loan them the money against their future share of conference revenue.

As someone who has predicted the ACC to come apart before, I don't see it now. Who is unhappy and where will they go? Maryland is broke and the Big 10 called with roughly a $10MM a year revenue increase. Easy decision. The Big 12 may be $3 to $5MM a year more, which means it will take 10 years to pay off the exit fee if FSU or Clemson wanted to go. And why would they? There are basically 3 teams fighting for one BCS bid slot and they all have a great shot at a playoff bid. Or they could go to the Big 12 and not have a good shot of making the playoff.
 
True the ACC does have an "access" bowl. I just hope were not seeing the movement to 4x64.
 
The SEC is not adding Clemson or FSU, and academically neither meet Big 10 standards. Who else is there besides Bevo?
 
husky210 said:
True the ACC does have an "access" bowl. I just hope were not seeing the movement to 4x64.
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just my amateur opinion, but I think we will see a playoff of 8 or more teams before 4X16 could be implemented. For example the big 5 get one team each and 3 at large. Won't be long before it goes to to 12 with 4 byes or 16. To much money to be had.
 
ACC is next to go. Even if we get an invite, we'll be sweating 4 x 16 superconferences in a few years. I'm pretty sure the ACC comes calling now but I don't think they remain a superconference in a few years
 
At the end of the day SU, BC, Pitt and Duke aren't going anywhere. I like that combination over UL, Cincy and Temple. If the ACC does get gutted then UL and Cincy will probably join what remains of the ACC anyway.
 
How about the SEC moving on VA Tech and NC State as previously talked about?

Count me among those who feels the ACC is in a very tenuous position right now.
 
noeynox said:
How about the SEC moving on VA Tech and NC State as previously talked about?

Count me among those who feels the ACC is in a very tenuous position right now.
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Right. I like the fit, but I just want to land somewhere and not worry about this crap anymore.
 
Maryland has never been thrilled at the Carolina-centricity of the ACC. They have been looking for an exit strategey for decades. Remember back to the late 1980s Big East-Penn State discussions and part of that deal was to have included Maryland. There was talk back when TCU joined the Big East for about a week that Maryland was also being courted then. Of course Marinatto preferred Villanova, but there was some interest from Maryland to at least explore the situation. So now that an alternative has been put forth, it just makes sense. I doubt the same thing exists for anyone esle really. maybe Florida State and Clemson, but they aren't going to the SEC and whether the Big 12 would even want them is a question. But in any case, even if they did leave, I mean one is Clemson for heaven sake...the ACC would still be better than the Big East hybrid. You would get Syracuse, Pitt BC all back on the schedule. And an occassional visit from the Fighting Irish. And an all sports league that really is one.
 
A lot of the bowl contracts I believe are in the 8 year range so should we get Invited and there is a bailout (gt,fsu, gt leave) at least we have great bowl access with all our old drinking buddies
Not too optimistic about conference staying the way it is but there is contracted bowl access for some time .

Then who knows what. .
 
noeynox said:
How about the SEC moving on VA Tech and NC State as previously talked about?

Count me among those who feels the ACC is in a very tenuous position right now.
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It is, it's just a less tenuous position than the Big East.
 
CL82 said:
It is, it's just a less tenuous position than the Big East.
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Much, much less tenuous. The current NNBE pretty much guaranteed to blow up. The catholics will split, Boise will try to get in the BXII. The ACC will probably last in some form till the next TV contract window, and even if the B12 and B1G go to 16 there will still be a cohort of decent schools with good basketball and okay-ish football (compared to whatever the "group of five" schools will be called at that point).
 
Calm down and stop thinking short term. Right now BC football is at an all time low. Miami is just coming off an all time low. NC State and UNC both have loads of potential. VT, Clemson and FSU remain very strong. Syracuse is looking better than they have in a long time. GT is often solid. Don't look at a snapshot and declare the ACC weak. I can find you snapshots in the not distant past when the Pac 10 was downright awful, and the SEC merely mediocre. It would take very little for the ACC to move past the Pac 12 in football. It wouldn't be unrealistic to think they could match the B1G and Big XII in some years as well. I think all five will survive, but the Big XII must expand westward to save itself. Nevada and BYU should be on speed dial, and they should consider New Mexico as well. The quality of the football programs is secondary to capturing flagship state universities and the mindshare of a region. This B1G move for a weak Maryland team should make that obvious to all.
 
I agree. If UConn doesn't get into a super conference, than we won't be the only good school not to. As others have pointed out in other threads, there are going to be 10-15 really good schools athletically that won't be apart of the 64. Many of them in the east and damn good at basketball. The pac 12 def isn't taking a team from the ACC and it's unlikely that the big 10 will either. The SEC is already at 14 and won't take another team from a state where a team already exists. AKA florida state isn't getting in because UF is already in florida. That basically leaves the big 12 with 11. So it would appear that of the 14 teams in the acc (including UConn) that atleast 8 will remain if there is realignment. If schools like louisville and Cincinnati go to the big 12, than that leaves more staying in the acc. If louisville doesn't get picked up than it will def come to the acc if there is a mass exodus of 3-5 more teams. It all seems good for uconn sports except football. But no one expects us to ever compete for a national title anyways given the recruiting around us.
 
The NBE nightmare is Louisville to the B12 and UConn to the ACC. Basketball would be just as well off creating a new Metro Conference.
 
RS9999X said:
The NBE nightmare is Louisville to the B12 and UConn to the ACC. Basketball would be just as well off creating a new Metro Conference.
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Add in also a basketball-only like Georgetown/Nova/St. John's leaving to the ACC to even out the basketball numbers once they take UL/UConn.
 
husky210 said:
If Maryland gets out with significantly less than the 50 mil could they lose fsu gt unc UVA vt nc st and Clem? Would we want to be a part of that? The Big 12 sec and B1G could slice up the ACC.

If the ACC stays the way it is then I would be more than happy to be a part of it, but I hope sue is calling delany and even bowlsby.
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If I hear we're going to the ACC what I feel will probably be a lot closer to relief than happiness. Do I want to be a part of it, not particularly. I'd have preferred to stay at last year's version of the BE, but since that's out the window, the ACC is much better than the NNNBE v3.0. Personally I'm worried that the ACC will go after Louisville before us. Every conference move in the last few years has been about expanding one's geographic footprint and we don't do that for the ACC.
 
noeynox said:
How about the SEC moving on VA Tech and NC State as previously talked about?

Count me among those who feels the ACC is in a very tenuous position right now.
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The ACC needs to move wisely with Maryland and its exit fee. If precedent means anything, BCU's ability to fight a raised BE exit fee that they did not vote for will lead to Maryland paying a far less exorbitant amount (but also likely open the door for FSU's departure. If a case can be made that once a lower fee has been agreed upon, a new market rate has been set, the floodgates may be open.

It might be in the ACC's best interests to work some deal with Maryland, even if it does open the door for FSU where the reduction was due solely to their not being part of the affirmative voting contingent.
 
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