the Aaron Torres retort ...

[jpm25]

Now there's something to be proud of -- you wanted the guy gone, he left and we collapsed. And yet you're here thinking your opinons have credibility?

Forget Edsall's apology -- if you were a good person you'd apologize to the rest of us for having thought the program was going to get better post-Edsall before you continued to post here.

I can't apologize for the terrible decisions made after he left. That is why the program collapsed, not because of the absence of Randy Edsall.

I think RE is a very good defensive coach, and would make a good DC. I think he is exceptional at evaluating and developing talent.

I put Randy Edsall as a head coach in the same category as your smugness. I'll pass on both.

 

[sportsart]

I can't apologize for the terrible decisions made after he left. That is why the program collapsed, not because of the absence of Randy Edsall.

I think RE is a very good defensive coach, and would make a good DC. I think he is exceptional at evaluating and developing talent.

I put Randy Edsall as a head coach in the same category as your smugness. I'll pass on both.

So if you are going to pass that means you're leaving us right? Bye.

 

[Stray_Dog]

I guess you're happy with 8-5 I'm not. You simply have lower expectations than I do and don't think they type of success is possible is guess.

They all play FBS football - Christ you're like the plyers and parents of the players that played for Dan Hawkins.

It's ok to have standards that are as high as the most successful programs in the country.

I'm glad you don't work for me - let's aim to be pretty good not great.

Unreal

Ok...so let me ask you this, as you give examples of LSU Alabama Ohio State etc. The greatest programs, but when was the last time they had a season like ours. Then ask, how much money can they spend on their head coach. Finally ask yourself if the location of these schools and their long history of competing for the top spot is any influence to demanding an unrealistic expectation. If you were a computer chip manufacturing company in New England but wanted top computer chip development how much money would it take to move Silicon Valley to CT? So until UConn can show some respectability...I don't see the need to obtain lightning in a bottle. So far when we tried that we got poop on a stick!

 

[huskymedic]

So if you are going to pass that means you're leaving us right? Bye.

Wait - he just came back.

@jpm25 - curious where you've been for the past 4 years? Pretty strong anti-Edsall animus on the BY in the past as well.

 

[jpm25]

Wait - he just came back?

@jpm25 - curious where you've been for the past 4 years?

Why did you want Edsall fired? Was it the five bowls in seven years? Or the two championships? Or the BCS appearance? Or the great graduation rates of his players?

it wasn't any of those reasons. The championships, albeit in a watered down league, backing into the BCS game, all fine (as an aside I traveled to the a few games that year including UM, East Hartford and Fiesta -- from the west coast -- the coaching was not good). The graduation rates were good, though. Especially great was punching above our weight in talent development, evidenced by four early round draft picks.

I should correct myself in that I wasn't outwardly calling for his firing, but rather I was eager to move past the transitional phase that he presided over, and represented (while doing a fine job). Edsall had served a great role in building a program "from trailers" or whatever you guys like to say. He clearly wasn't the guy to take the program beyond that, and with conference realignment looming, it was important to create more excitement around the program so as not to be left behind. RE stifled the offense way too much - Moorehead was handcuffed. (as an aside, JM was also the OC at my alma mater way back, first as QB coach then OC. Exciting offense)

I think UConn could have done better, even recently if Narduzzi had been hired over Diaco. I'm not sure Hathaway would have made a better decision. I think there were some decisions made at the booster level during CR with a basketball mindset that in hindsight, would not have mattered who was coach.

 

[Stainmaster]

Wait - he just came back.

@jpm25 - curious where you've been for the past 4 years? Pretty strong anti-Edsall animus on the BY in the past as well.

Lots of people who quit on the program for the past few years are popping up out of the woodwork these days.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I think there were some decisions made at the booster level during CR with a basketball mindset that in hindsight, would not have mattered who was coach.

And now you've officially gone off the deep end.

 

[gars44]

The guy leads UConn into the lala land - the Fiesta Bowl
And you called for his dismissal??????
You are either stupid, delusional or a liar - which one?

gt, look, we're all on the same team here. That's the first thing to remember.
A lot of people were calling for Randy's dismissal. A lot. We thought he was a low ceiling on the program.
Then the world left us behind. It just took off without us.
Would RE have done any better than PP in this new world? The Big East disintegrating beneath our feet. Maybe a little. Maybe not.
Would he have done better than Diaco? One should expect so. He had a lot of experience. Diaco didn't. RE would probably have done better. A lot better? I can't answer that question, but probably a little better.
I for one highly doubt that RE has the fire burning hot enough to get us to another level in the next five years. Then he's gone.
He has what it takes to get us out of the disaster we find ourselves in right now. That's certainly a welcome positive. Positives are good. Our nearest competitors, RU, BC and Syrexcuse, have no reason to believe their fortunes will be significantly better than ours.
But, whatever. Just whatever. Nothing to be real happy about.

 

[sportsart]

gt, look, we're all on the same team here. That's the first thing to remember.
A lot of people were calling for Randy's dismissal. A lot. We thought he was a low ceiling on the program.
Then the world left us behind. It just took off without us.
Would RE have done any better than PP in this new world? The Big East disintegrating beneath our feet. Maybe a little. Maybe not.
Would he have done better than Diaco? One should expect so. He had a lot of experience. Diaco didn't. RE would probably have done better. A lot better? I can't answer that question, but probably a little better.
I for one highly doubt that RE has the fire burning hot enough to get us to another level in the next five years. Then he's gone.
He has what it takes to get us out of the disaster we find ourselves in right now. That's certainly a welcome positive. Positives are good. Our nearest competitors, RU, BC and Syrexcuse, have no reason to believe their fortunes will be significantly better than ours.
But, whatever. Just whatever. Nothing to be real happy about.

Would Randy have done better than PP, after coming off the Fiesta Bowl and you answer maybe, maybe not?

Um....ok.

 

[ZOOCONN]

are these top class college coaches? I may be missing your point. Norries Wilson, out of coaching? Matt Cerosimo, head coach at Conard HS? Scott Lakotos from Monmouth?

This is the Randy Edsall coaching tree. Moorhead has been successful, likewise Orlando of late. But to call Edsall great at spotting coaching talent and developing them I think is a stretch?

i know for one the Cerosimo choice was an emotional one, he wanted to take over for his dad when he retired. he is coaching at the HS level because he wants to, not because he has to.

 

[Stinger92860]

I guess you're happy with 8-5 I'm not. You simply have lower expectations than I do and don't think they type of success is possible is guess

Unreal

If we had averaged 8-5 over the last 6 years, we would likely be in a p5.

 

[sdhusky]

Would Randy have done better than PP, after coming off the Fiesta Bowl and you answer maybe, maybe not?

Um....ok.

He would have beaten Michigan with that lead and that position.

 

[sdhusky]

If we had averaged 8-5 over the last 6 years, we would likely be in a p5.

Exactly. Football is actually hurting us. Bigly.

If we can get back to be great bb and decent FB, we would be in a much stronger position. Much.

 

[ktuck911]

Guys do get canned for going 8-5 or better - Richt, Pellini, Miles, etc.

P5 stuff, with programs that have experience a National Championship moment within the last 35 years or so. Doesn't apply as much to a G5 program trying to convince the powers that be that they belong in a P5 conference

 

[Duncan Idaho]

no, I was calling for his firing. I might have been first.

It was not in this forum or the previous site but on Des Connor's at the Courant, I believe you had made the comment that the true measure of a program is in the number of draft picks that it produces, this was right after the Donald Brown draft when we had 4 players chosen in the first two rounds. You seemed quite pleased. Your opinion of RE and his accomplishments seemed to turn because of the manner in which he left. I seem to recall that you withheld your criticisms of the 2010 year until after he left. If you are not the same guy in Des' old blog then I profusely apologize.

 

[jpm25]

i know for one the Cerosimo choice was an emotional one, he wanted to take over for his dad when he retired. he is coaching at the HS level because he wants to, not because he has to.

ok

 

[junglehusky]

Would Randy have done better than PP, after coming off the Fiesta Bowl and you answer maybe, maybe not?

Um....ok.

As long as Hathaway was still around, Randy would probably have about done the same as PP. The wheels were starting to come off in the athletic department as a whole, to the point that RE probably felt he didn't have the tools and support to maintain the standard he had set. Hence, time to look for another opportunity. The roster has been thin under Diaco, at the beginning of PP's tenure it was also thinning and it actually traces back to the end of RE's tenure.

On the other hand - if Hogan wasn't president, and we had someone like Herbst in place years earlier to fire Hathaway, maybe RE is able to bring in a couple more players into the program with academic qualification. And instead of lucking into the Fiesta, he wins the BE title outright that year and we're more competitive with OU. And when Michigan and Maryland and other schools come calling, he's happy and decides to stay.