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I haven't watched as much of the field this year, but it doesn't feel like there have been any huge leaps by portal players this year. Last year, Spencer was way beyond expectations as well as a guy like Knecht. I don't feel that same buzz this year. The best players are either freshman or remained on their current team.
 
Eh I watch a ton of west-coast late night hoop, Marcuulionis was always the guy who stirred the drink. Mahaney was primarily SG and was used to get into the paint and shoot.
In the early season in Novembrer when they were struggling, they were kind of operating as co-PG (which is something Bennett likes to have). In the first 7 games, Marciulionis had games with 5 assists, and three games with 0 or 1 assist (in up to 29 minutes). From December on, he only had less than 3 assists in 1 out of the 26 games.

Mahaney had a 19% assist rate in November and a 13% assist rate the rest of the way. Marciulinus had a 16% assist rate in that first stretch (less than Mahaney's) to 31.5% the rest of the way. My friend is a St Mary's alum, and I talked to him a lot about it. Bennett made a change in their deployment.
 
I haven't watched as much of the field this year, but it doesn't feel like there have been any huge leaps by portal players this year. Last year, Spencer was way beyond expectations as well as a guy like Knecht. I don't feel that same buzz this year. The best players are either freshman or remained on their current team.
There are some very good portal players. Broome is out of the portal, coming from Morehead St a couple years ago. PJ Haggerty on Memphis, Chaz Lanier at Tenn, Walter Clayton at UF, Michigan has multiple. The list is long.

The entire UK team is out of the portal. The thing about the portal is that it’s rare you’ll get so-called NBA talent unless a clear case of a late bloomer, but you’ll get men with mature bodies that have experience playing at a high level, often at a mid major.
 
Well he did play PG for St. Mary's last season. But he was not very good at it and got pushed off ball halfway through the year and Marciulionis took over most of the on ball duties. So more accurate to say a role he's never played well.

The staff aren't going to miss a detail like that. They brought him in expecting him to be a Spencer-like player. But then quickly realized he would not be able to defend 2s because he was smaller than expected and Ball had a good Fall. Which left him stuck as either a PG or a bench player.
Smaller than expected? They measure height differently out west?
 
Smaller than expected? They measure height differently out west?
Staff played against him in 2023-24 so I’m sure they knew what they were getting. I was surprised at how small he was when I saw him for the first time. He is not his listed height, but I know most aren’t. I’m 6’4” and stood next to him in Texas and he’s a stretch at 6’2”, probably in the 6’1” and change neighborhood.
 
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Well he did play PG for St. Mary's last season. But he was not very good at it and got pushed off ball halfway through the year and Marciulionis took over most of the on ball duties. So more accurate to say a role he's never played well.

The staff aren't going to miss a detail like that. They brought him in expecting him to be a Spencer-like player. But then quickly realized he would not be able to defend 2s because he was smaller than expected and Ball had a good Fall. Which left him stuck as either a PG or a bench player.

He was their PG when we played them in the tourney. And I distinctly remember Dan Hurley saying pregame that we needed to play great PNR defense because Aidan would kill us if we didn't.
 
The other thing that I think we tend to do that I don't like is leaving an open scholarship. I don't know the full NIL situation but I have to think there was either a PF or PG out there who could have been insurance of sorts to fill out that slot.

Kentucky grabbed Ansley Almonor from FDU pretty late in the game to be like their 10th or 11th guy. I think he was going to transfer to Siena before Kentucky popped in. That dude can play and signed on to play like 10 minutes a game there at best and be like the 4th big man. He would've been a fantastic pickup as insurance for an injury or if Jaylin/Ross didn't develop like we thought. Hoping we don't just leave an open scholarship this year if there is someone/anyone who can fill it to be insurance/compete.
 
So where does Solo Ball fit in at 2” taller? He’s clearly worse defensively. He is one of the best off ball 3-pt shooters in the land, but can’t create his own shot.

We have two huge deficiencies in both Mahaney (size) and Solo (defense, shot creation). Tough to live with both and both on the court at the same time.
The times we've had Diarra, Ball, and Mahaney on the floor at the same time, I've cringed because of the height we're giving up on defense to pretty much any power conference team. Last year, we usually had Newton (6'5), Castle (6'6) and Spencer (6'4) 1-3, who were all taller than their counterparts for the vast majority of opponents. We haven't had the Diarra/Ball/Mahaney combo on the floor much and usually it only gets deployed when we're in foul trouble, but just underlines how good we had it on the perimeter the last couple of years.

Of course once McNeeley returns, we'll probably never see Diarra/Ball/Mahaney on the floor together again (hopefully).
 
The other thing that I think we tend to do that I don't like is leaving an open scholarship. I don't know the full NIL situation but I have to think there was either a PF or PG out there who could have been insurance of sorts to fill out that slot.

Kentucky grabbed Ansley Almonor from FDU pretty late in the game to be like their 10th or 11th guy. I think he was going to transfer to Siena before Kentucky popped in. That dude can play and signed on to play like 10 minutes a game there at best and be like the 4th big man. He would've been a fantastic pickup as insurance for an injury or if Jaylin/Ross didn't develop like we thought. Hoping we don't just leave an open scholarship this year if there is someone/anyone who can fill it to be insurance/compete.
It’s a good point. This recent portal season felt rushed and incomplete. I thought going in 3 was the target. The number of players gotten, the players gotten and number of players entertained felt light. In 2023, Calc, Alleyne, Hassan, Newt were all portal and key contributors. This last one felt incomplete, with the reasoning being belief in the rising sophs.
 
It’s a good point. This recent portal season felt rushed and incomplete. I thought going in 3 was the target. The number of players gotten, the players gotten and number of players entertained felt light. In 2023, Calc, Alleyne, Hassan, Newt were all portal and key contributors. This last one felt incomplete, with the reasoning being belief in the rising sophs.

I didn't think it was rushed or incomplete at all. I think we keyed in on three or four guys. As of right now, we missed what Aidan would be. I think he's had flashes offensively where you can see that he can play. But the defensive adjustment has been quite slow and the speed of the game (in all aspects) has at times been way too fast for him. I believe the staff thought we were getting our starting PG. They were very wrong on that.

I have no issues whatsoever with Tarris. He's easily as good as any of the other 5's that were portaled and we'll have him next year where, if he's used correctly, he could easily be a 14-10 guy every night.

I just would've liked to see us use that last schollie. It just seems pointless to leave it open if it's a guy who's going to be gone in a year anyway. Again, no idea if the NIL budget even was there. But Dan Hurley has liked to leave a scholarship open the last few years and it makes little sense to me.
 
I’m curious. Would we have brought in guys for depth from the portal?

We got Mahaney and brought in Liam. Those were supposed to be to be our starters that we brought in. Were we supposed to to bring in another PG or SG? A SF to compete with Liam or for depth?

Hurley couldn’t both ask Stewart to come back and then bring in a guy who would start over him in Liam and then another guy in the portal to take all his minutes.
Spot on. This is where the real conundrum is. There is going to be a real logjam next year as well. Those guys aren't coming here for garbage minutes next year.
 
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Spot on. This is where the real conundrum is. There is going to be a real logjam next year as well. Those guys aren't coming here for garbage minutes next year.
I didn't think it was rushed or incomplete at all. I think we keyed in on three or four guys. As of right now, we missed what Aidan would be. I think he's had flashes offensively where you can see that he can play. But the defensive adjustment has been quite slow and the speed of the game (in all aspects) has at times been way too fast for him. I believe the staff thought we were getting our starting PG. They were very wrong on that.

I have no issues whatsoever with Tarris. He's easily as good as any of the other 5's that were portaled and we'll have him next year where, if he's used correctly, he could easily be a 14-10 guy every night.

I just would've liked to see us use that last schollie. It just seems pointless to leave it open if it's a guy who's going to be gone in a year anyway. Again, no idea if the NIL budget even was there. But Dan Hurley has liked to leave a scholarship open the last few years and it makes little sense to me.
I'm fine with Tarris, but he's certainly not the type of profile that we lost in a rim protector. There were a lot of bigs in the portal. The way this offense/defense runs, the 5 needs to rebound, set picks, pass out high and rim protect. Offense is gravy. Hard to know if Hurley wanted to give Samson his chance all along. There is no way you're rolling out a contender you feel confident in with Samson as your starting 5. You have to constantly compensate, like expecting guards to be key rebounders.

Losing 4 starters to the NBA * seeing your fifth guy entertain the draft, portal was critical. We brought 2 guys in, entertained 3, 1 guy was an experiment. That put a lot of emphasis on a freshman & sophomore leaps. Doesn't feel like a winning recipe, especially as you look around rosters at top teams this year with seniors everywhere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Logjams are ok to avoid if you really believe in the guys you're trying to retain. This is the trickiest part of the portal era, knowing when to cut bait with kids you have invested in. It takes a clinical approach. Why this portal season is going to be fascinating to watch.
 
Spot on. This is where the real conundrum is. There is going to be a real logjam next year as well. Those guys aren't coming here for garbage minutes next year.
Yeah I can’t see us hitting the transfer portal and keeping the sophomore group.

I also don’t see us winning big with the core group of talent being transfer players. It’s kind of the sophomore and upcoming freshman class or bust.

As it stands the roster looks like this.

PG: Nowell, Mahaney? Adams? Furphy
SG: Solo, Mahaney, Adams? Mullins?
SF: Ross, Mullins, Adams, Stew
PF: Karaban?, Stew, Abraham
C: Reed, Reibe, Singare

Not meant to be a depth chart. And I’m not sure if Mahaney is playing PG next year or Adams. We may want to bring one in if Nowell is okay with it. But we have a full on log jam at 2-5 especially if Karaban decides to stay.

We for sure need a true PG in the 2026 class regardless. Would be nice if we can develop Nowell to be good enough to start by then and have the 2026 PG as a nice apprentice for him.
 
The other thing that I think we tend to do that I don't like is leaving an open scholarship. I don't know the full NIL situation but I have to think there was either a PF or PG out there who could have been insurance of sorts to fill out that slot.

Kentucky grabbed Ansley Almonor from FDU pretty late in the game to be like their 10th or 11th guy. I think he was going to transfer to Siena before Kentucky popped in. That dude can play and signed on to play like 10 minutes a game there at best and be like the 4th big man. He would've been a fantastic pickup as insurance for an injury or if Jaylin/Ross didn't develop like we thought. Hoping we don't just leave an open scholarship this year if there is someone/anyone who can fill it to be insurance/compete.
Dan Hurley has been very open that they're not going to use all 13 scholarships so I don't see that changing next year. Even Kentucky only filled 12 scholarships, and the last 3 spots were with freshmen who are barely playing
 
Yeah I can’t see us hitting the transfer portal and keeping the sophomore group.

I also don’t see us winning big with the core group of talent being transfer players. It’s kind of the sophomore and upcoming freshman class or bust.

As it stands the roster looks like this.

PG: Nowell, Mahaney? Adams? Furphy
SG: Solo, Mahaney, Adams? Mullins?
SF: Ross, Mullins, Adams, Stew
PF: Karaban?, Stew, Abraham
C: Reed, Reibe, Singare

Not meant to be a depth chart. And I’m not sure if Mahaney is playing PG next year or Adams. We may want to bring one in if Nowell is okay with it. But we have a full on log jam at 2-5 especially if Karaban decides to stay.

We for sure need a true PG in the 2026 class regardless. Would be nice if we can develop Nowell to be good enough to start by then and have the 2026 PG as a nice apprentice for him.
Man I can't see AK coming back. He already feels like he overstayed. Time to push him out of the nest as his value at the pro level isn't getting any higher with another year.

I wouldn't want a small starting sophomore PG with the rest of that roster, or a small converted PG that hasn't shown to work. That roster up there scares me to death - it feels massively inexperienced and dogless. Fine with the soph/frosh and bust approach, but would see it as a developmental year vs an NC contender. Put all of them on testosterone supplements in the offseason.

Anyone think of a potential portal PG that would fit?
 
I always say the same thing. If you have 5 starters coming back and 4 bench guys leaving are you supposed to only recruit 4 players you think are going to be worse than the 5 starters you have coming back? What kind of nonsense would that be?
Nonsensical.

Best player available, irregardless(almost) of position.

Don't think we need 4 5's even if they were all great. Or is that a new offense, 4 in??

Isn't the prevailing thought that guard play wins Championships?
 
Man I can't see AK coming back. He already feels like he overstayed. Time to push him out of the nest as his value at the pro level isn't getting any higher with another year.

I wouldn't want a small starting sophomore PG with the rest of that roster, or a small converted PG that hasn't shown to work. That roster up there scares me to death - it feels massively inexperienced and dogless. Fine with the soph/frosh and bust approach, but would see it as a developmental year vs an NC contender. Put all of them on testosterone supplements in the offseason.

Anyone think of a potential portal PG that would fit?
If we find the right one I’d be okay with it. I wouldn’t want to bring in say, an Ashton Gibbs just to bring one in. Preferably a true PG that can make guys around him better and not a combo guard either.

I agree on Karaban too. He has nothing left to prove tbh. I’m sure Abraham will be chomping at the bit for playing time that would not be available if he comes back. Question is do we ride it out with Ross and Stew next year? Do we bring in guys at that position to win now? Do one of the freshmen light it up so much that they start over one or the other? Solo and Mahaney pretty much have minutes at the 2 locked down next year which seems to be the primary positions for Adams and Mullins.

Solo being developed as a lead guard would solve a lot of problems but that doesn’t seem feasible.
 
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Nonsensical.

Best player available, irregardless(almost) of position.

Don't think we need 4 5's even if they were all great. Or is that a new offense, 4 in??

Isn't the prevailing thought that guard play wins Championships?
"irregardless"? No such word exists!
 
AK is gone next year - like 1% chance he stays bc never say never.
Johnson and Diarra are out of eligibility
Solo Ball is being talked about as the best shooter in the country (by some) so logically he might test the NBA draft water - a lot of games to play still so the barometer is still not calibrated.

But if we are -4 on outs, and +4 on frosh = same 13 players (12 scholly's, Diaby a walk-on).

That would mean one (1) more portal entrant if no other movement occurs (e.g., Mahaney leaves, or Abhraham leaves, etc).

If we have 1 portal play - would it be PG to pair with Nowell/Adams, or a PF for vacating AK while Stewart becomes our 3?
 
If we find the right one I’d be okay with it. I wouldn’t want to bring in say, an Ashton Gibbs just to bring one in. Preferably a true PG that can make guys around him better and not a combo guard either.

I agree on Karaban too. He has nothing left to prove tbh. I’m sure Abraham will be chomping at the bit for playing time that would not be available if he comes back. Question is do we ride it out with Ross and Stew next year? Do we bring in guys at that position to win now? Do one of the freshmen light it up so much that they start over one or the other? Solo and Mahaney pretty much have minutes at the 2 locked down next year which seems to be the primary positions for Adams and Mullins.

Solo being developed as a lead guard would solve a lot of problems but that doesn’t seem feasible.
I just cannot see us rolling into next season with Solo/Mahaney as our 2Gs. We'll be facing the same defensive issues. If Hurley brought Mahaney in to be a PG, I have a hard time thinking the play now is to shift him to backing up Solo as a senior, keeping that position small & lacking defense. Does Mahaney even want that role in his senior year? Do we want to dish out NIL for that?
Karaban has overstayed, looking forward to Johnson being gone. You know, being a UConn fan means rooting for the players, right? Not some hypothetical future players who might make you happier?
AK overstayed to his own benefit, not the team/fanbase. Anyone here would like him back, it wouldn't seem best for him. I root for every kid, I talk about the team construct more matter of fact as it comes to winning at the highest level. Sampson is playing a position he's not meant for as a starting 5 in high D1 - great bench kid, not a foundational 5. My satisfaction first and foremost comes with seeing this program win, along the way I pull for and appreciate every kid. We all have our own ways of being fans. I find the easily offended blue blinders tribalism fairly annoying. To each their own.
 
There is a whole active Tread discussion on this:

"Tarris Reed not being utilized" that was started on Jan 9th by SuperJohn
He brought it to this thread.

I asked a simple question. I don't believe I should be required to search another thread to see if his answer is there
 
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I just cannot see us rolling into next season with Solo/Mahaney as our 2Gs. We'll be facing the same defensive issues. If Hurley brought Mahaney in to be a PG, I have a hard time thinking the play now is to shift him to backing up Solo as a senior, keeping that position small & lacking defense. Does Mahaney even want that role in his senior year? Do we want to dish out NIL for that?

AK overstayed to his own benefit, not the team/fanbase. Anyone here would like him back, it wouldn't seem best for him. I root for every kid, I talk about the team construct more matter of fact as it comes to winning at the highest level. Sampson is playing a position he's not meant for as a starting 5 in high D1 - great bench kid, not a foundational 5. My satisfaction first and foremost comes with seeing this program win, along the way I pull for and appreciate every kid. We all have our own ways of being fans. I find the easily offended blue blinders tribalism fairly annoying. To each their own.
We're all set at shooting guard. Solo is going to be an 18 ppg guy, and we have the #3 shooting guard and #4 combo guard in the country coming in. We need a big time big sized starting point guard in the portal. Shooting guard and center are totally locked up.
 
Karaban has overstayed, looking forward to Johnson being gone. You know, being a UConn fan means rooting for the players, right? Not some hypothetical future players who might make you happier?

Huh? Are you being sarcastic? What college team wouldn’t want Karaban?

I like Johnson too, and if our perimeter defense was better he would be an eraser at the rim. Blocking shots on a penetrator that is a half step ahead of his defender is easy because as a center I know where the shot is going to be taken. Blocking shots on a penetrator that has smoked his man above the 3 point line and is coming downhill and both sides of the rim are available usually results in a foul for the center.

We focus on the transfer pickups that hit, but there is a high failure rate on transferring performance from one team to another, especially when the player is elevating a level of competition.

I can’t explain the defensive problem to talent alone, and I really really wish we could have that Colorado game back. I think our talent level is decent.
 
Huh? Are you being sarcastic? What college team wouldn’t want Karaban?

I like Johnson too, and if our perimeter defense was better he would be an eraser at the rim. Blocking shots on a penetrator that is a half step ahead of his defender is easy because as a center I know where the shot is going to be taken. Blocking shots on a penetrator that has smoked his man above the 3 point line and is coming downhill and both sides of the rim are available usually results in a foul for the center.

We focus on the transfer pickups that hit, but there is a high failure rate on transferring performance from one team to another, especially when the player is elevating a level of competition.

I can’t explain the defensive problem to talent alone, and I really really wish we could have that Colorado game back. I think our talent level is decent.
The problem is that Samson is hardly ever playing drop coverage, but rather, is either hedging at 30 ft from the basket, or rushing back from the hedge to try preventing a layup by the guy he left open to perform the hedge at 30 ft from the basket.
 
Would love to see Sam in drop coverage for a good stint. Might cure his perceived rebounding woes, and pick up some of the slack of our inability to stop dribble drives.

Not as big a departure from Hurley philosophy as a zone
 
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