Thats why you foul. Jesus.
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Lost the game the second Cadougan crossed the half court line and was not fouled. Boggles my mind why coaches don't give the 2 points to guarantee no 3-pointer.
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That was an easy foul decision no idea why we didn't, also don't know why Boatright allowed Cadougan to walk into that shot.
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Boat's gotta have better situational awareness than that. He sauntered back on D and sagged into his position as if there were 6 minutes left, not 6 seconds.
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The foul would have occurred with about 3 seconds left. They shoot 2 and we just have to inbound the ball to the far court, even if they intercept there's no time. Did it even cross KO's mind? Most coaches do not foul and i don't get it.
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I agree. You can play the situation either way, but if you opt to not foul, you can't let the guy get to the 3-point line without making him work for it. Defense was way too lax. This should have been a win, and it stings. They now have a week for this taste to stay in their mouths.
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Normally I'd not foul, but if our guys are gonna play defense as lax as they did up 3 we have to consider it.
a lot of times u see guys try to miss intentionally and they make it or miss rim entirely. even if they grab the rebound, it would likely be a long rebound with a few seconds left and marquette would rush it back up and miss the majority of the time. plus they have to make the first free throw to begin with
As I said in different thread...take the last timeout and decide what you are going to do. Setup D. I used to think it was a time for offense to call a timeout, however when they just go it seems like the results are better for offense (totally unscientific based on games I have seen).
Tough loss......
Tough loss......
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There wouldn't be an inbounds pass. Marquette would have missed the second on purpose and it would have been a rugby scrum for a rebound, with time to put it back up once or twice if they got it.
Now we have to play better D than we did if we're going to go straight up. That's my biggest issue. Meet them 30 feet from the basket and force them to shoot on the move. But it's a lesson for the memory banks for Boat. And who knows - maybe KO will rethink it and foul from now on. If that becomes his strategy, I'd support it - I think you just need to have your philosophy and stick to it and coach your team to be ready.
Either way, if our players or KO learn some lessons in tough losses, it's not going to push me out on the ledge this year with no postseason. At the half, I thought we were going to lose this one by 15+, so I'm happy with how we played.
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Even a terrible rebounding team like us still has position to get that rebound in a hi percentage, look most of the time the 3 doesn't go but does anyone have statistics on which way works best?
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So many things can go wrong on those intentional miss plays, and with only 3 or so seconds left, and the refs more or less swallowing the whistle as they often do in that situation, the ball can bounce around, it can bounce way out for a long rebound, so many things can happen, and time runs all the while.
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I am always an advocate of fouling on the floor in that situation, I can't help but think the fact that Marquette was something like 1 for 15 from 3 (a bank no less) entered into KO's thinking. It's obviously a methodology handed down from JC but I totally disagree in general with not fouling on the floor in that situation.
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Yeah - actually as I have thought about our personnel issues more, in addition to having defensive rebounding questions we also have small guards who are easier to shoot over. You obviously don't want to foul in that situation, and Boat actually did a pretty good job leaping out to contest (after playing too far off him to begin with), but being 5-11, he didn't really change the shot as much as a 6-4 guy might have. So either way you play it, we're at a bit of a disadvantage compared to what you would like to have ideally -- and the odds are a little better fouling.
Once Cadougan was squared to the basket, it was too late to foul, since he could get into the shooting motion too easily. Probably Giffey needed to stay with him and foul.
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