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meyers7 said:
I believe Carrie Underwood has had a bit more success (not much though). Not that I like either one.
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I think in the US that's true but when worldwide sales are counted, it isn't close and widely in favor Clarkson.
 
Dinah Washington
Billie Holiday
Ella Fitzgerald
Judy Garland
Patsy Cline
Aretha Franklin
Karen Carpenter
 
cohenzone said:
I think in the US that's true but when worldwide sales are counted, it isn't close and widely in favor Clarkson.
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Nobody counts worldwide sales. It's "American Idol".
 
meyers7 said:
Nobody counts worldwide sales. It's "American Idol".
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Betcha her accountant counts world wide sales. If Clarkson went country, she'd likely do as well as Underwood. AI is the show, and has nothing to do with whether or not the contestants have the wider appeal of a world audience. I guess by your measure, Adele couldn't count sales outside of Great Britain of she'd won, say Britain's X Factor.
 
cohenzone said:
Betcha her accountant counts world wide sales.
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Irrelevant to discussion.

cohenzone said:
If Clarkson went country, she'd likely do as well as Underwood.
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Who knows?? She might do worse?? She's barely behind her as is.

cohenzone said:
AI is the show, and has nothing to do with whether or not the contestants have the wider appeal of a world audience.
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Exactly, only how they do in America. (like I said)

cohenzone said:
I guess by your measure, Adele couldn't count sales outside of Great Britain of she'd won, say Britain's X Factor.
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Again, irrelevant to the conversation. Adele was not on AI.
 
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Meyers. glad to see you seem to be raring to go post-op.

Not to belabor this, but your original point was about sales. You didn't say sales in the US or anything about the AI connection until after I noted the worldwide numbers, which I'd wager mean something in the real world. This thread in general didn't relate to favorite US singers or else, say Callas doesn't belong on anybody's list nor does Adele. Peace and love.
 
Jazz: Billie Holiday. She had the blues in her bones. I love Ella, the greatest voice ever, but she didn't.
Classical (for roughly Dowland through Mozart): Emma Kirkby. Little knowledge of lieder and opera voices.

And I don't know how you'd classify her, but I do love Cape Verdian Cesaria Evora.
 
VAUConnFan said:
Jazz - Maysa (fantastic delivery)

R & B - Gladys Knight (when with the Pips, the best entertainment and the best value)

Country - Dolly Parton (great presentation, nice voice, excellent writer)

Folk - Janis Ian ( a one hit wonder with Society's Child)

Broadway - Stephanie Mills (the reason I refuse to watch the movie version is because the powers that be, namely
Berry Gordy, decided to rewrite The Wiz and cast Diana Ross in the lead; Huge mistake) It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about Ms Mills singing the Home Finale. I just recently had the pleasure of seeing/hearing Audra McDonald in Porgy and Bess; Excellente

Classical - Kathleen Battle (great, great voice. but, everything you have heard and read about her diva tendencies are readily apparent)

One performance, One song - Vann Johnson singing lead on Yanni's Love Is All.
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Janis Ian was definitely not a one hit wonder. Her album with Society's Child featured some wonderful lyrical music and that was at the age of 15 1/2. Later she sang "when I was 17" and one of her later albums featured a song called "Stars" that was magical. I love Natalie Merchant for her completely unique sound and I'm also a fan of Patty Griffin whose done some wonderful stuff. You gotta give Linda Ronstadt a lot of love as well. She's done a phenomenal amount of great stuff including some redo's on some great artists music that she may have exceeded. Aretha Franklin has done some magificent stuff and Celine Dion must have something because she played in Vegas for about 3 years. There are numerous women, some even locals (Florida) that have taken my breath away with their wondrous vocals. I know I'm missing some other greats but my brain doesn't retain a whole lot of information anymore.
 
wire chief said:
Me gots an E C album.
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I have to thank you because I just submitted a reply and completely forgot about Eva Cassidy. I don't think I've ever heard a song more enchanting then her version of "Somewhere over the Rainbow" that completely blows away Judy Garland and everyone else I've ever heard sing that. For her to die in her early thirties, before she really made any kind of name for herself (like Van Gogh and others) was horrific. I can only imagine the music that might have generated from those pipes if she had some of the better song writers writing material for her. A terrible loss to anyone who loves music. By the way, I found a version of "somewhere over the rainbow" on youtube that was totally awesome and gave me massive goosebumps.
 
Tori Amos sings like a sexy angel.

Amy Lee is pretty phenomenal.

Beth Orton and Fiona Apple had some good stuff in the 90s.

From a classic rock perspective, I'm partial to Grace Slick and Stevie Nicks. The Wilsons of Heart were good too.

Patsy Cline was the real deal.

Ella is indeed eternal and immortal.
 
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johnnyc said:
Dinah Washington
Billie Holiday
Ella Fitzgerald
Judy Garland
Patsy Cline
Aretha Franklin
Karen Carpenter
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I'm not sure how many people could identify more than 3 songs that Judy Garland ever sang and most would probably only be able to name "somewhere over the rainbow". She had some singing talent but were she not in so many movies, particularly musicals and with her all around talent, I doubt many would even remember her name at all. I guess a little bit of her celebrity was due to her sorrowful life and her addictions, both men, booze and drugs after becoming America's sweetheart in the Wizard of Oz plus her movies with Mickey Rooney in the 40's. All I'm saying is insofar as a vocalist, she's not in the same ballpark as most everybody else mentioned by others in their posts.
 
Fleetwood Mac did have a great female singer at one time.

Her name is Christine McVie. Christine Perfect before her marriage.

(see youtube video from VH1, 1977, "You Make Lovin' Fun")
 
Underwood vs Clarkson. Underwood's US album sales total just under 13 million, Clarkson's 11.5 million. Underwood probably has more recognizability because of all the award show hosting and she's a hottie. IMO Clarkson is more versatile and has the better voice.
Perhaps my tastes are pedestrian, but I enjoy both.
 
Icebear said:
A great piece but unfortunately over used commercially. Iz was one of a kind.
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I had never of IZ nor had I heard his version of the song. A few years ago we rented a condo on Kauai and the owners had a couple of his CDs. When I heard "Over the Rainbow" it became an all time favorite.
 
from the 70's Linda Ronstadt , the 80's Chrissy Hynde from the Pretenders,
the 90's Melissa Etheridge and right now maybe Susan Tedeschi.
 
meyers7 said:
Irrelevant to discussion.


Who knows?? She might do worse?? She's barely behind her as is.


Exactly, only how they do in America. (like I said)
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Can't stand either.
 
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It's interesting that the top female album sellers/money earners get barely a mention.

Madonna, Maria Carey, Nana Mouskourhi. Diana Ross, Donna Summer, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston . . . . .
 
speedoo said:
Fleetwood Mac did have a great female singer at one time.

Her name is Christine McVie. Christine Perfect before her marriage.

(see youtube video from VH1, 1977, "You Make Lovin' Fun")
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Well, that's just perfect. :D I didn't realize that was her name before marriage.

I think Stevie Nicks's voice has deteriorated over the years, but when they were younger, I liked hers a little more than Christine's.
 
Many of my favorites already mentioned, I'll add a few:

Roberta Flack
Kate Pierson
Anita Baker
Alanis Morissette
Macy Gray
Gwen Stefani
Etta James
Carly Simon
Heather Headley
 
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In rock its Ann Wilson and Linda Ronstadt... powerful and beautiful voices. Bonnie Raitt in whatever category you want to put her in. Honerable mention to Stevie Nicks in her prime.
 
My mother's favorite female singer was a mostly forgotten jazz singer named Mildred Bailey. Mom would never go near a computer or the internet until my brother showed her what Napster was all about. As a lark she typed in Mildred Bailey and was stunned by all of the songs available. Mom's lucky the Internet police didn't get her, she turned into a Napster fool.

But let's face it, the best female pop singer was Karen Carpenter.
 
speedoo said:
Fleetwood Mac did have a great female singer at one time.

Her name is Christine McVie. Christine Perfect before her marriage.

(see youtube video from VH1, 1977, "You Make Lovin' Fun")
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Always loved Fleetwood Mac, going back before any female band members, and Christine was very good. Like Stevie on a few tunes also. Tina Turner in the early 80s was a powerhouse.
A few more in the folk/rock genre... Wendy Waldman and Karla Bonoff (who wrote many of Linda Ronstadt's hits). KB played Infinity Music Hall in Norfolk a few weeks ago. Almost went. Last saw her perform at a small coffee house at San Diego State in 1978. Had many of the top LA studio guys with her that night. Great show.
 
Waquoit said:
My mother's favorite female singer was a mostly forgotten jazz singer named Mildred Bailey. Mom would never go near a computer or the internet until my brother showed her what Napster was all about. As a lark she typed in Mildred Bailey and was stunned by all of the songs available. Mom's lucky the Internet police didn't get her, she turned into a Napster fool.
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Surfing around YouTube I've found lots of stuff I'd never heard of that I really like, and Mildred Bailey is in that group. Also from that era or a little before, Libby Holman and Lee Morse.
 
Buzzyboy said:
Janis Ian was definitely not a one hit wonder. Her album with Society's Child featured some wonderful lyrical music and that was at the age of 15 1/2. Later she sang "when I was 17" and one of her later albums featured a song called "Stars" that was magical. I love Natalie Merchant for her completely unique sound and I'm also a fan of Patty Griffin whose done some wonderful stuff. You gotta give Linda Ronstadt a lot of love as well. She's done a phenomenal amount of great stuff including some redo's on some great artists music that she may have exceeded. Aretha Franklin has done some magificent stuff and Celine Dion must have something because she played in Vegas for about 3 years. There are numerous women, some even locals (Florida) that have taken my breath away with their wondrous vocals. I know I'm missing some other greats but my brain doesn't retain a whole lot of information anymore.
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You are right about Janis Ian creating some wonderful songs. I admire artists who shun commercial appeal for true craftsmanship and can only hope that these artists make enough to sustain themselves and their craft. In my youth, we lacked a radio with good FM reception and rarely purchased LPs. So Ms Ian only came to my attention via the AM radio airplay of Society's Child, and it was not until much, much later that I heard anything from her LPs.

Thank goodness for youtube. Listening to a bunch of old favorites, other songs from favorite artists that I'd never heard, and discovering favorites of others about whom I knew very little; all very enlightening.
 
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