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There are a lot of Volnation posters who are advocating Tyler Summitt as the anointed savior for the program. This is as delusional as Nickki Caldwell.
 
Caldwell and Tyler Summitt aren't the answer at this point. Caldwell did a very good job at UCLA but has really struggled at LSU.

I like Walz, but I don't like that he's been consistently owned by Geno and UCONN over his career. He's a good coach, but I'd rather see Tennessee target a coach like Rueck who has really built Oregon State from the ground up and has turned them into a west coast powerhouse.

Kind of outside the box, I'd be thrilled if Gail Goestenkors or Stephanie White got a look. Goestenkors was an amazing coach at Duke but struggled recruiting top talent at Texas. Put her at Tennessee, I think she can haul in some really great players and make them play well together. Her deer in headlight look is well documented, but I think she could bring Tennessee back to being a consistent Final Four presence.

White is another option who I think would do quite well. She is younger and a relatively new head coach, but she did a great job at Indiana this year. She stays composed and was able to take one of the least talented WNBA teams to a near title this year. Perhaps most importantly, it appeared every player on the Fever truly bought into her philosophy and she was able make Indiana one of the best teams in the league. College basketball is different, but she is a big name that could bring in a lot of talent (she broadcasts, coached in the W, is one of the best Big Ten players ever and played several years in the W) and it seems she has a great head on her shoulders.
 
I glanced at the topic subject and thought Walz was going to UTah.
I thought Lynne Roberts has done a good job in her first year there. :rolleyes:
 
Re the "Kibitzer rule". Does the NCAA now have a rule against 1) indoor blimps and 2) t-shirts with baby pictures? Jus wondrin.
 
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How about Walz goes to LadyVol and Stephanie White backfills at Louisville. That way she can stay a lot closer to home.
 
ericsandiego said:
I liked the first part of your post, but what on earth makes you think Caldwell is anything but an average coach and an average recruiter? When she got to UCLA, she inherited some good players, recruited like crap, and left the program in shambles. She was at UCLA from 2008 to 2011.

She inherited Markel Walker who had already committed before she became the HC. In 2010 she got no one in the top 100. in 2011, she landed #25 Swain, and then on one else in the top 100. She took the team to the NCAA's in her 2nd and 3rd years, but only lasted 3 years at UCLA, and in her 3rd year, she still had kids who were seniors recruited by the previous coach.

She leaves UCLA and the new coach promptly lands #12 Nirra Fields, #60'is Holliday, and Korver. UCLA goes on a recruiting roll, and look where they are today.

Now she's at LSU starting in 2012. She lands #25 Danielle Ballard, and #97 Baker. In 2013, it's #18 Moncrief, and no one else in the top 100. For 2014, it's literally no one in the top 100, and she ended up with a pair of 3-star kids rated 90 on HG...In 2015, she got 1 kid - #63 Mitchell.

Her first 3 years at LSU (with other coaches players) she won over 20 games. in years 2 and 3 she went to the sweet 16. Then the wheels fell off. With all her own kids, in 2014 she miraculously made the NCAA"s with a 17-13 record and lost in the first round. This year she's dead last in her league and 8-16 overall. She's a dreadful recruiter and a poor coach.

BTW i'm not trying to argue with you, but back several years ago when Tenn fans were talking about her taking over for Pat, and lauding her as a great coach, I went thru the history then. She's just awful. If anyone really argues that she's a good coach, it's an optical illusion perpetuated by delusional Tennessee fans...
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I think still Nikki was a solid coach. She inherited a very good, balanced, and deep group from KO, but there's no way KO would have gotten the results Nikki did with that group. Her final year's team played very well but ran into Vandersloot @ Spokane in the 2d round of NCAA's. And I was actually saying that she was indeed a horrible recruiter, which we seem to agree on. You're actually incorrect about Walker, Nikki was the one who scored the commitment from Markel Walker right out the gate, not KO, but after that all her recruiting has been questionable.

It's been a long time, but she actually seemed normal early one: she had the inside track for Cassie Harberts at one point as well as Shoni Schimmel. In the end, she missed out on both, and wound up with Thea, Gardner (whose older sister was already at UCLA), and Corrine Costa.

There were solid players after Harberts and Schimmel but no indication that she recruited them. Costa was one of a few "project players" she offered that year. Costa turned out to be not that bad, but she was actually the lowest ranked player in the history of NorCalPreps's girls rankings to ever land in the Pac-10.

In that class with Swain is where I'm saying she seemed to turn her nose up at TWO McD's AA's who very very good and very interested in UCLA. Apparently she really went hard after Erica Payne, which didn't seem too smart since she had Stanford as an option, thus a low-percentage target, plus there were equal or better players available.

Ballard was a controversial recruit. It seemed odd that she signed her yet didn't go for the two McD's AA's the year before while at UCLA who did not have the baggage. I was surprised Nikki never made a dent in the region while recruiting for LSU. Van Chancellor did just fine recruiting. And she was only 3 years removed from recruiting in the region for Tennessee. And not keeping Bob Starkey as an assistant was flat out stupidity.
 
"The assistant coach was prohibited from calling any student athlete for 14 days"

Boy that's a stiff penalty. Why bother?
 
Tennessee will owe a significant buyout for the current coach who is under contract through the end of the 2018-19 season. In addition to the buyout, how much would Tennessee be willing to pay Walz for him to leave Louisville? What if they had to offer him upwards to $1.5 million/year. Would Louisville match the salary. I would guess they would. Would Walz leave if the offer were matched? No.
 
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Blueballer said:
"The assistant coach was prohibited from calling any student athlete for 14 days"

Boy that's a stiff penalty. Why bother?
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You missed the 2nd part -
" . . . and Tennessee is prohibited from calling the 2018 recruit for the first 60 days following Sept. 1, the first permissible day for phone calls."

How stiff should a penalty be for a self reported minor violation?
 
The TN AD's track record with the LV program isn't a good one. I think it's a big assumption that he would want to invest a lot of money in a new coach.
 
jdubct said:
Tennessee will owe a significant buyout for the current coach who is under contract through the end of the 2018-19 season. In addition to the buyout, how much would Tennessee be willing to pay Walz for him to leave Louisville? What if they had to offer him upwards to $1.5 million/year. Would Louisville match the salary. I would guess they would. Would Walz leave if the offer were matched? No.
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Outside of money and the chance to take over a program with a ton of resources, I don't see any reason for him to leave . Walz has really picked up his recruiting at Louisville and has the horses to put together a potential championship squad in the next few years with MHA, Moore, Durr and others. I think he could definitely put Louisville in a great spot to win it all come 2017-18.
 
WWMS? What will Margo say on Tuesday morning after the Gamecocks deliver a beat down in Knoxville? Which is what I think will happen. Game on ESPN2 at 7 PM on Monday, February 15. Tune in for the fun.
 
We all want to be judged on our body of work and not by that day we showed up for a meeting with ketchup on our sleeve.
 
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Earth to Margo- the wheels have fallen off. You just haven't noticed it. Time to change those orange colored glasses, your prescription is out of date.
 
Well, the hair- having hair - is new and she dyed it orange. Give her credit for the strength of her convictions. Fans who love their teams through thick and thin are OK with me.
 
Walz isn't going anywhere. This has happened every year for the last 4-5 years. In the near future an article will be released that his contract was just extended and his base salary increased.
I agree with someone above, every time another program shows interest, it is good for his pocketbook.
 
CocoHusky said:
Didn't Holly beat Oregon State @OSU this year.
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Yup, she did last year, too. This season Tenn won by 3 points in Corvallis, last year Tenn won by 11 points in Knoxville. They lost to Notre Dame @ South Bend this season by 1 point.

But this doesn't at all change my position/opinion.

You've got to factor in the personnel. Oregon State's lineup features just 2 players that were ranked top 100 coming out of HS (Weisner #41, Wiese #80). Their 6'6" center from Canada was a project who averaged 4.4 ppg and 2.9 rpg as a freshman, but they developed her into perhaps a 1st round WNBA draft pick. Final two starters were 2* and 3* by ESPN coming out of HS.
 
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jennyo70 said:
Walz isn't going anywhere. This has happened every year for the last 4-5 years. In the near future an article will be released that his contract was just extended and his base salary increased. I agree with someone above, every time another program shows interest, it is good for his pocketbook.
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It means he's doing something right.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...red-discussing-sex-assault-culture/80227668/#

I imagine that would happen at most Campuses. I wonder if the administration would have been better off having the athletes say they are unable to discuss the situation because of the lawsuit. Might be better then having someone in the administration in front of reporters tell the players not to answer the question.
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Hmm, reading the article it appears coach Holly believes it is the female students responsibility to be safe from sexual assault by traveling in groups at night. Apparently getting male athletes to stop committing sexual assault is not a viable option. It is little wonder they are being sued.
 
Given the stink TN fans made over the report filed on UConn that ended up with only 1 minor infraction I find it quite ironic that here we are again with TN self-reporting again as if by self-reporting it is as if it didn't happen at all.
 
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