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Puppy Love said:
I agree with those saying that this hire came with tremendous risk. However, UConn once hired a coach with zero head coaching experience and we know how that turned out. My concern is that the Vols won’t have the patience to see this through. She might need a couple of years and the fans want perfection now.
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The difference is that UCONN had hardly any WBB fans at the time of the hire.
 
southie said:
I mean, it's easier to appreciate this type of hire when it's not done by the school/program you root for.

Does this compare to when South Carolina hired Dawn Staley from Temple? I forget Dawn's coaching history prior to SC hiring her. If similar, the main difference was the history of success between Tennessee and Sout Carolina.

When Texas hired Karen Aston (after short stints at UNC-Charolotte and North Texas), Texas fans were definitely on the fence. She had been an assistant coach at Texas under Jody Contadt and revived recruiting enough to make a Final Four in 2023; she then left for Baylor for the same position. She definitely recruited well and reached an Elite 8 and couple of Sweet 16's, but she just couldn't maintain things as her x's and o's weren't evolving.
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It does not; Gamecock fans were overjoyed with the Staley hire and knew she would win big with our resources and fan base compared to Temple.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
It does not; Gamecock fans were overjoyed with the Staley hire and knew she would win big with our resources and fan base compared to Temple.
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LOL. Then why didn't any head coaches at SC before Staley win with all those resources and fan base?
 
TC22 said:
She’s got to coach and recruit against Dawn Staley, Kim Mulkey, Vic Schaefer, Coach Yo, Kenny Brooks…. Whew! Good luck.
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She is a young coach. If this hire works out . She will be at Tennessee after most of those coaches retire.
 
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Im pretty sure it came down to her and mark kellog for the wvu head job last year. I think wvu got the better of the 2 but who knows. Shes a wv girl
 
I'm interested to see how LV alums are brought into the fold at this point. Two of their own were fired. It is very clear Tenn is not going to invest heavily in the program to quickly return to greatness. I wonder how they feel about that. The new coach needs them for recruiting at this point. Will or have the big names jumped on board?
 

Some one asked coach. If her style can translate into the SEC. Answer I wouldn't be here if I didn't think it could.
 
stwainfan said:

Some one asked coach. If her style can translate into the SEC. Answer I wouldn't be here if I didn't think it could.
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From a bird's-eye view, her type of offense tend to have more success at lower levels of play. I think it is a legitimate question and I guess only time will tell.
 
GamecockFam said:
From a bird's-eye view, her type of offense tend to have more success at lower levels of play. I think it is a legitimate question and I guess only time will tell.
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It's not just the offense. It's a attacking style defense that causes turnovers. Yes time will tell.
 
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stwainfan said:
It's not just the offense. It's a attacking style defense that causes turnovers. Yes time will tell.
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I am not familiar with her work, so I don't have much to offer but those full court press styles of defense also tend to inflate numbers at the lower levels as well and not translate into the same success at higher levels.
 
GamecockFam said:
I am not familiar with her work, so I don't have much to offer but those full court press styles of defense also tend to inflate numbers at the lower levels as well and not translate into the same success at higher levels.
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We will see how it looks when the season starts.
 
GamecockFam said:
From a bird's-eye view, her type of offense tend to have more success at lower levels of play. I think it is a legitimate question and I guess only time will tell.
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Time will tell but I am loving this hire. Like I have said before, this is a low risk, high reward hire for the Lady Vols.
 
hussybulldog said:
Losing to SC by 2 is not a bad result, wonder why they need to fire her. The new coach will not bring in new recruits more effectively. Even if she does, it will take more years to reestablish the program than the time they have to Kelly, and to get win over dawn/sc and Mulkey/LSU will be tall tale for the new coach. Also the coaching psychology for elite players really need complete skill sets at different level.
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Add Texas
 
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JellyBean said:
Time will tell but I am loving this hire. Like I have said before, this is a low risk, high reward hire for the Lady Vols.
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I understand your point of view. But, I see it as a very high-risk hire because everyone knows she is inexperienced and is being hired with the goal of restoring the Lady Vols program to a level of competing for championships. Odds are she gets at least 3 years to try to turn things around (which won't really even be with a roster full of players she recruited). If it doesn't pan out, that sets the program back another few steps as they fall further behind South Carolina and LSU and other programs (like Kentucky and Ole Miss) who might surge during those initial 3 years of her tenure.
 
JellyBean said:
Time will tell but I am loving this hire. Like I have said before, this is a low risk, high reward hire for the Lady Vols.
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Not sure what you mean by “low risk.” It’s been 7 years since TN made an E8 game. HS kids weren’t even in kindergarten when they last made a F4. If this hire doesn’t succeed, Vols will be irrelevant on a national stage.
 
Vowelguy said:
Not sure what you mean by “low risk.” It’s been 7 years since TN made an E8 game. HS kids weren’t even in kindergarten when they last made a F4. If this hire doesn’t succeed, Vols will be irrelevant on a national stage.
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Yep. The pool of elite recruits who have the Lady Vols as their "childhood favorite" or "dream program" will have dwindled to almost zilch if the new head coach doesn't turn things around quickly.
 
I think it will depend on can she get the right players? It is a different style. I also think basketball is becoming more fast paced game,
 
Vowelguy said:
Not sure what you mean by “low risk.” It’s been 7 years since TN made an E8 game. HS kids weren’t even in kindergarten when they last made a F4. If this hire doesn’t succeed, Vols will be irrelevant on a national stage.
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I was about to ask this question
 
BTW Caldwell coached at Marshall last year. Marshall did beat Florida 91-88.
 
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stwainfan said:
BTW Caldwell coached at Marshall last year. Marshall did beat Florida 91-88.
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Florida also lost to Kentucky and Georgia this past season.

As for Marshall, they lost to...Wake Forest.
 
southie said:
I understand your point of view. But, I see it as a very high-risk hire because everyone knows she is inexperienced and is being hired with the goal of restoring the Lady Vols program to a level of competing for championships. Odds are she gets at least 3 years to try to turn things around (which won't really even be with a roster full of players she recruited). If it doesn't pan out, that sets the program back another few steps as they fall further behind South Carolina and LSU and other programs (like Kentucky and Ole Miss) who might surge during those initial 3 years of her tenure.
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Great points and we shall see what happens.
 
Vowelguy said:
Not sure what you mean by “low risk.” It’s been 7 years since TN made an E8 game. HS kids weren’t even in kindergarten when they last made a F4. If this hire doesn’t succeed, Vols will be irrelevant on a national stage.
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The Lady Vols may not have reached an E8 round in a minute but they are still the Lady Vols. They have reached the NCAA tournament, shockingly but the bottom line, they have been in the NCAA. This year, Coach Caldwell is hitting the transfer portal hard. I took a peek at the Lady Vols roster. They are down to 7-8 players, so I am sure Coach will be dipping into the portal pool. Like with any hire, it will take a minute and if it works out, which I know it will, the Lady Vols will be in the thick of the SEC top layer.
 
Let me say this with respect to this hire because I've had some more time to think about it. The platooning system may work or it may not. The recruiting may improve or it may not. Tennessee may get back to the Final Four in five years or they may not. But it's important to look at what's transpired here. A 35ish-year-old rising star coach saw what was happening at Tennessee (stagnation and a dip in results) and threw her hat in the ring, ultimately landing the job. In other words, a young coach was willing to sacrifice her future for this position (because if it doesn't work out, then there won't be too many P4 teams beating down her door immediately--she'd have to prove herself again at a lower level). That takes major guts, and I do applaud Kim Caldwell for that.
 
Puppy Love said:
I agree with those saying that this hire came with tremendous risk. However, UConn once hired a coach with zero head coaching experience and we know how that turned out. My concern is that the Vols won’t have the patience to see this through. She might need a couple of years and the fans want perfection now.
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Totally different situation there, of course -- apples & oranges. When Geno was hired, back in the dark ages of women's basketball, the UConn program was nowhere, in terms of visibility, success, university resources, etc., as was the sport of women's basketball as a whole. Completely different situation for TN in 2024: they've already once had a proud and winning program, and they sit within a sport that now has great visibility and interest, more "stars" all the time, etc. The idea that this would be a good scenario to bring in somebody with all of one year of D1 coaching experience, not in a major conference, is just nuts. As a friend of mine said of the hire, "So who does she know?"
 
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