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Tell me about the NEW Big Ten

Tough road for the entire BIG. In the McDonald's All American era (since 2002), the BIG has never had the number of high end players that it will have next year. The BIG had 8 McDonald's All Americans this year for the whole 14-team league (if I have my numbers right), the same amount as South Carolina (not including Chloe Kitts, who graduated early and wasn't eligible). Next year, the BIG will have 25+ McDonald's All Americans, 15 of which will play home games in LA County.
Yes, the talent infusion into the conference from just those two teams is CRAZY to think about! The rest of the B1G will be playing catch-up for a few seasons.
 
Format for next year's tourney.


Wow--so no post season play at all for the bottom 3 teams in the league. I guess if you can't finish better than 16th out of 18, there's no reason to complain that you didn't get to play in the postseason
 
Tough road for the entire BIG. In the McDonald's All American era (since 2002), the BIG has never had the number of high end players that it will have next year. The BIG had 8 McDonald's All Americans this year for the whole 14-team league (if I have my numbers right), the same amount as South Carolina (not including Chloe Kitts, who graduated early and wasn't eligible). Next year, the BIG will have 25+ McDonald's All Americans, 15 of which will play home games in LA County.

That's a pretty wild stat. UCONN has 11 on their roster next year, more than the entire 14 team Big Ten combined.

The big question mark for the California schools, IMO, is coaching. Programs like Iowa, Indiana and Maryland may not have a ton of talent but have really good coaches and those programs often outperform expectations. UCLA has recruited well forever but hasn't gotten over the hump to make a Final Four, and Gottlieb is doing good things at USC but the product on the court is a little jumbled.
 
Wow--so no post season play at all for the bottom 3 teams in the league. I guess if you can't finish better than 16th out of 18, there's no reason to complain that you didn't get to play in the postseason

Yeah, the ACC is doing the same thing.
 
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The big question mark for the California schools, IMO, is coaching. Programs like Iowa, Indiana and Maryland may not have a ton of talent but have really good coaches and those programs often outperform expectations. UCLA has recruited well forever but hasn't gotten over the hump to make a Final Four, and Gottlieb is doing good things at USC but the product on the court is a little jumbled.
Hold on a sec. Indiana has never made a Final 4 either and Frese hasn't made it since 2015. In fact she's only made it past the Sweet 16 once since then. I'd say Closes's post season record lines up pretty well with Frese and Moren over the last nearly decade. And let's not pretend Maryland hasn't had a whole bunch of talent pass thru. You could probably argue they've had more than UCLA has. Retention of that talent has been a problem, but that's part of coaching too isn't it?
 
Hold on a sec. Indiana has never made a Final 4 either and Frese hasn't made it since 2015. In fact she's only made it past the Sweet 16 once since then. I'd say Closes's post season record lines up pretty well with Frese and Moren over the last nearly decade. And let's not pretend Maryland hasn't had a whole bunch of talent pass thru. You could probably argue they've had more than UCLA has. Retention of that talent has been a problem, but that's part of coaching too isn't it?

Those are fair points--it just seems like UCLA is always supposedly knocking on the door but has never broken through or had a statement team that looked like a championship contender or Final Four favorite despite having a ton of talent pass through Westwood. Indiana hasn't made a Final Four either but has had flashes of greatness despite never landing high caliber players. Maryland is a bizarre program in that they've often had championship caliber teams in the regular season but then falter early in the tournament. Frese develops players arguably better than anyone in the country, but half of them transfer out. Stars transferring out (Frese) and inability to land high profile players (Moren) could be attributed as coaching weaknesses, but for me, Close hasn't shown the ability to formulate a team that plays well enough together to be a viable tournament threat in the same manner that Moren/Frese have.
 

Can't find this news for other schools yet but I'd suspect there's a conference-wide press release coming soon.
Makes sense based on their schedule from last season. Gives the impression that each team will have one home and away series going forward. Will be interesting to see how this plays out when more information is released.
 
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The one land grant you'll hold a grudge against forever. Hilarious.

Yeah 2009 wbb tournament and 2019 mbb....yeah.. No love lost for Soarty. Its a shame cause their Green color scheme is probably 2nd or 3rd best in all of college sports. I will root for them when they play Michigan or Chapel Hill...or Maryland. But that's about it
 
The BIG office did a pathetic job with the new schedule, in significant part because they felt bound to simply reverse engineer the single plays from last season. Together with the defensible decision to pair USC/UCLA and Oregon/Wash, this has produced some terribly unbalanced schedules, e.g., MSU and IU. Based on ESPN's way-too-early top 25 and bracketology, the predicted top 5 in the BIG are: USC, UCLA, OSU, NEB & Ill. MSU will play those five teams, and MD (predicted 7th), only once, all on the road. Indiana, in contrast, will play those top five teams, and MD, only once, all at home. With this new schedule, the BIG has abandoned its practice of trying to predict the order of finish and then tailor the schedule to try to help competitive balance.
 
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I'm interested to see how good Maryland will be after remaking their roster yet again.

Top 10?
 
I'm interested to see how good Maryland will be after remaking their roster yet again.

Top 10?
Not sure about Top 10, but I could see them in the Top 25 at some point during the season if things play out as they hope. There's a lot of new pieces that have to mesh together this summer.
 
If it is ever revealed, I would love to know how much BTN revenue was generated by ad sales for wbb games this past year
 
Not sure about Top 10, but I could see them in the Top 25 at some point during the season if things play out as they hope. There's a lot of new pieces that have to mesh together this summer.
Same. I'm big on like who are your two best players and style of play. As much as I like their pieces, I'm not sure who their two best players r and what is the vision in terms of style of play. One of the funniest Maryland teams was the 20-21 team. They were deep but then obviously Diamond Miller and Ashley Owusu were there best players. Also they shared the ball and played at a great place so shooters like Katie Benzin could get off. I thought the 23 team was similar in terms of a clear pecking order Diamond Miller and Abby Meyer. But they also had great pieces like Lav and B Alexander who came off the bench to provide offense. That made sense. So I'm just interested in Brenda Freese vision.

I like how early the conference is releasing the conference opponents. And Iowa was great releasing their whole schedule. I like how Iowa still has some tough ooc matchups.
 
Hold on a sec. Indiana has never made a Final 4 either and Frese hasn't made it since 2015. In fact she's only made it past the Sweet 16 once since then. I'd say Closes's post season record lines up pretty well with Frese and Moren over the last nearly decade. And let's not pretend Maryland hasn't had a whole bunch of talent pass thru. You could probably argue they've had more than UCLA has. Retention of that talent has been a problem, but that's part of coaching too isn't it?
Often only stopping for a cup of coffee and some danish.
 
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Don't you have to get some crab cakes while you're in Maryland? Or am I getting my states mixed up?
Maryland is know for its crab cakes, but College Park is known for the Black Angus. (Just kidding, I don't even know if it's still there)
 
Thank you to Michigan for agreeing to play the Cocks in the opening game in Vegas.
I bought my ticket last night! This will be my first trip to Vegas. It wasn't high on my vacation choices list, but the game made it palatable.
 
Thank you to Michigan for agreeing to play the Cocks in the opening game in Vegas.
I thought they were playing Texas? Or is it a weekend event where they play both Texas and South Carolina?
 
I thought they were playing Texas? Or is it a weekend event where they play both Texas and South Carolina?
I think there's some confusion on the topic. I believe both Texas and South Carolina are playing an opponent in Las Vegas and did not realize the other team was slated to play there, so when Michigan announced they were playing in Las Vegas, each fanbase assumed that they were the opponent. I haven't seen any official announcements but South Carolina newspapers are saying it's South Carolina vs. Michigan.
 
I remember when Penn State was joining the conference and everyone thought they would win the championship every year. So far I think they have won 2. The same was said when Nebraska was set to join the league and they haven't won one yet. My point is UCLA and USC are joining a league where they will need to adjust to how that league plays, not vice versa.

Right now it would appear USC and UCLA have better rosters so they might go on to win. To me though I think USC will be above average but not great and UCLA will less than them. The Elite teams will be the usual suspects like UConn, SCar, and maybe a ND or a Texas. Everyone else will be playing to get to the final 4.
 
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