Tarris Reed…from 3?!?

[husky429]

Well here goes…if we play Reibe and Reed together it could work since Reibe is certainly going to shoot threes.

We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4

 

[DogMania]

If he can shoot them, it gives even more options to the offense, will open the middle, more flow, etc. Also makes it more difficult for whoever guards him to do their job…can’t just park in the lane.

Agree. If whoever is covering him doesn't vacate the paint and Reed can hit that shot at a decent clip, that's 3 points when they fall. All it takes is him knocking down 1 or 2 early 3s and the paint will open up for cutters. With Reibe coming in as a stretch 4/5 combo, if Reed can do the same, the offense flow and sets can run more consistently and not require a different flow if both bigs have similar capabilities, though Reed will likely be a more dangerous scorer creating for himself close to the basket.

It would also increase his draft potential since the NBA loves bigs who can stretch the D. Danny always seems to balance winning and trying to help his players develop an NBA game.

 

[HW611]

It would also increase his draft potential since the NBA loves bigs who can stretch the D. Danny always seems to balance winning and trying to help his players develop an NBA game.

Who are these 25 and under coveted centers known for stretching the D?

 

[Hunt for 7]

We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4

We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4

Yeah I know was just trying to introduce the play two bigs argument into the thread to see what would happen. But I do think if we want to see our center shoot threes that Reibe will be that player.

In watching him he looks to have offensive skills from all three levels but I wonder if he (Reibe) will be strong enough to battle down low for the majority of his time on the floor. So I see a lot of face up play coming from him and I did see a nice mid range 8-12ft game from him.

In the end I think we will finally see a big that Hurley allows to shoot from three as part of his regular game not just to space the floor but because he has the shot to be very effective from outside.

 

[uconn_jack]

He definitely has good form, better than I would have expected, but I am skeptical this will translate into games. My problem is that these are all essentially "rhythm 3s" catch while stepping forward and shooting, the easiest kind to make, but its not the kind of 3s he'd potentially take in a game. Any three he takes would likely be after standing still with the ball for a few seconds unguarded and taking a shot, that's a lot harder if you're not a natural shooter.

 

[Excalibur]

The likelihood is that this is just Reed working on a skill that he thinks he needs for the next level. If he takes a few in the early season scrub games and makes a decent %, it has the potential to impact how defenses scout and play us, but I seriously doubt that he'll take more than a dozen all year.

 

[Excalibur]

Understood with the use of the word mastered. We agree on the overall point.

Sanogo unfortunately didn't have the physical tools to make the league regardless of his 3 ball or not.

Reed wont have the same issue and can follow the path of another guy who's a pretty good physical comp for him in Jalen Duren. Another player who doesn't shoot shots outside of 3’.

I just personally don't get the hype for a close to 7’ taking 3s as a role player. If I'm an opposing coach I’ll live and die with Reed taking that shot all season if that's what he really wants to do.

Especially if that means less stress on my center from banging, them not getting in foul trouble, and keeping Reed off the boards.

Duren's a good comp, but I think he's a far better athlete (run/jump) than Reed. Reed will need to add another element to stick in the league.

 

[JohnFSilver]

We’ve seen this in the off-season with Sanogo and Clingan too. Question is, will Hurley let him shoot them in games? Even better question is, why would he need to with all the shooters we have?

No. It is developing his game for professional ranks. He might take a couple. But it wont be a large volume

 

[BuffaloHusky]

Duren's a good comp, but I think he's a far better athlete (run/jump) than Reed. Reed will need to add another element to stick in the league.

I think Duren's is more explosive and Reed is more skilled. Which is better suited for the professional ranks is hard to say but Reed has a lot of catching up to do as they are approximately the same age.

 

[HuskyFich]

Well here goes…if we play Reibe and Reed together it could work since Reibe is certainly going to shoot threes. Both of them in the game with Stewart at the 3 Mullins at the 2 and Demary at point……huge lineup.

 

[RuffRuff]

I think Duren's is more explosive and Reed is more skilled. Which is better suited for the professional ranks is hard to say but Reed has a lot of catching up to do as they are approximately the same age.

Reed is also bigger.

 

[Umami Zen]

Nice stroke for a big dude. Will certainly help him during NBA team pre-draft workouts next spring. Not sure Danny is gonna give him the green light-Maybe a yellow light. To shoot them this season. Which means you'd better be making them at a pretty high rate and within the context of game script/flow or you'll be joining me on the bench for a breather. LOL

 

[superjohn]

There was a poster who started a thread that was something like Tarris Reed is going to have the best season ever from a UConn center. He caught a lot of heat for it and I feel it was undeserved.

In terms of strictly #'s I think Tarris has a decent chance at having the best statistical season we've ever had from a center. I expect a monster season from him, something like 17/12/3 on 65% shooting. We're not going to see anything close to an even split in minutes again at the position. I'm high on Reibe's potential and what he can give us as a freshman but Tarris is miles ahead of him at this point. I've said in the past we will have a two headed monster again at center and I'm backtracking on that a bit. We'll have that in a way because their skills are so different just as Sanogo and freshman Donovan were so different but we're going to need to ride and rely on Tarris more. I expect something around 30 mpg for him. This isn't a knock on Reibe, I just think the Kodiak is that good.

In the seven games Tarris played 25 or more minutes last season he averaged 17.1 ppg, 11.6 rebs, 2.9 blocks on 71% shooting from the field.

 

[nomar]

When at UConn, I once watched Alex Oriakhi spend about 15 minutes working on 3’s at about a 60-70% clip…. Just saying.

Hey, as long as Tarris gets to shoot 3s from the top of the arc with nobody within 20 feet of him, I think 60-70% is a real possibility!

 

[nomar]

There was a poster who started a thread that was something like Tarris Reed is going to have the best season ever from a UConn center. He caught a lot of heat for it and I feel it was undeserved.

In terms of strictly #'s I think Tarris has a decent chance at having the best statistical season we've ever had from a center. I expect a monster season from him, something like 17/12/3 on 65% shooting. We're not going to see anything close to an even split in minutes again at the position. I'm high on Reibe's potential and what he can give us as a freshman but Tarris is miles ahead of him at this point. I've said in the past we will have a two headed monster again at center and I'm backtracking on that a bit. We'll have that in a way because their skills are so different just as Sanogo and freshman Donovan were so different but we're going to need to ride and rely on Tarris more. I expect something around 30 mpg for him. This isn't a knock on Reibe, I just think the Kodiak is that good.

In the seven games Tarris played 25 or more minutes last season he averaged 17.1 ppg, 11.6 rebs, 2.9 blocks on 71% shooting from the field.

I think he's going to have a great year.

Emeka averaged 17.6 ppg, 11.5 rpg, and 4.1 bpg and shot 60% as a junior. As a sophomore, he averaged 15.9 ppg, 11.2 rpg and 4.7 bpg and shot 58%. Thabeet averaged 13.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, and 4.2 bpg and shot 64% as a junior.

If he approaches any of those, then we're gonna have a heckuva year.

 

[Husky68]

He looked like Larry Bird shooting. Don't care if he ever takes a 3 this year, that is some fine shooting form. Don't understand how guys make shooting from that far away seem so effortless.

 

[RuffRuff]

I think he's going to have a great year.

Emeka averaged 17.6 ppg, 11.5 rpg, and 4.1 bpg and shot 60% as a junior. As a sophomore, he averaged 15.9 ppg, 11.2 rpg and 4.7 bpg and shot 58%. Thabeet averaged 13.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, and 4.2 bpg and shot 64% as a junior.

If he approaches any of those, then we're gonna have a heckuva year.

Emeka played 32.4 minutes/game his junior year. If you take Tarris' stats from last year alone and stretch across 32.4 minutes, he'd be at:

15.6 points, 11.9 rebounds, and 2.6 blocks

Not too shabby. Key for him will simply be able to stay on the floor long enough to make it happen.

 

[RuffRuff]

He looked like Larry Bird shooting. Don't care if he ever takes a 3 this year, that is some fine shooting form. Don't understand how guys make shooting from that far away seem so effortless.

He's got great form - and did bump his FT% to 65%ish last year, but 7 or so from previous at UM.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Good form but I doubt he’s shooting a three unless he’s wide, wide (wide) open similar to Adama’s three point attempts.

 

[Shamon30]

He looks a lot better than Sanogo and Clingan did from 3 though. His form is perfect and he doesn’t seem to be aiming at all, it’s very fluid. I could see him shooting some 3s. I have a lot of hope that he can be surprisingly good this season. He’s a huge talent. If he came here as a freshman he’d be one of the best players in the country.

That said, I think it was Facey that had a similar looking video in preseason. Perfect stroke, nailing shot after shot. He still didn’t shoot 3’s in games.

He's shot the 3 decently in Europe.

 

[jibsey]

He definitely has good form, better than I would have expected, but I am skeptical this will translate into games. My problem is that these are all essentially "rhythm 3s" catch while stepping forward and shooting, the easiest kind to make, but its not the kind of 3s he'd potentially take in a game. Any three he takes would likely be after standing still with the ball for a few seconds unguarded and taking a shot, that's a lot harder if you're not a natural shooter.

In a game where the defense sags off him at the 3 point line? Yes, he should practice that in addition to catch and shoot. He gets the ball, holds it as he looks to pass, then shoots it. Adama did that ok.

 

[caw]

Who are these 25 and under coveted centers known for stretching the D?

You are correct that a lot of them are not super young and only about a third of starting centers were truly threats from deep last year. Only 11 made over 1 a game last year (and two arguably are not really centers in KAT and Reid):

Older (31+): Horford (36.3%), Vucevic (40.2%), Lopez (37.3%)

Prime age (26-30): Porzingis (41.2%), Turner (39.6%), KAT (42%), Jokic (41.7%), Huff (40.5%), Bam (35.7%)

Young (25 and younger): Wemby (35.2%), Reid (37.9%)

Others who have done well in past years: Carter Jr, Reath, Embiid.

 

[HW611]

You are correct that a lot of them are not super young and only about a third of starting centers were truly threats from deep last year. Only 11 made over 1 a game last year (and two arguably are not really centers in KAT and Reid):

Older (31+): Horford (36.3%), Vucevic (40.2%), Lopez (37.3%)

Prime age (26-30): Porzingis (41.2%), Turner (39.6%), KAT (42%), Jokic (41.7%), Huff (40.5%), Bam (35.7%)

Young (25 and younger): Wemby (35.2%), Reid (37.9%)

Others who have done well in past years: Carter Jr, Reath, Embiid.

Thank you for these numbers. The centers should learn to shoot 3s to help their NBA career narrative is so overblown and I think this showcases that. Especially recently.

If you’re a star like Embiid, Jokic, or Wemby who are the center of offenses than sure. But if you’re just a guy there’s much better things you can invest your time in. (And even with Wemby I wouldn’t be surprised if they do him like Chet and bring in a real center and let him play the 4)

 

[Excalibur]

Reed is also bigger.

If you believe the off season increase from Reed, he has done inch and maybe ten pounds.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Good form but I doubt he’s shooting a three unless he’s wide, wide (wide) open similar to Adama’s three point attempts.

Sanogo put up 52 3’s his last season. I think that’s the absolute high watermark for Reed this season. Likelihood is he’s far closer to zero than that number this year IMO.