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Tarris Reed…from 3?!?

Are you saying Reed has a better post game than Sanogo?
No, Sanogo had unbelievable post moves. I'm saying that if you think Sanogo had mastered the post moves enough to work on his 3 point shot, regardless of how he's getting it done, Reed shot 10% higher so should be getting the same opportunity by your logic
 
I think every player who sees time on the court should be able to make an open three-pointer from the top of the arc. I could always make that shot. It’s just a free throw with a bit more oomph.
 
Sanogo actually did end up shooting a decent amount of threes his junior year. 19-52 for 36.5%. Clingan not so much. 2-8 his sophomore year.
Cling was such a good passer he was more effective seeing over the d and hitting cutters. Adama for all he was great at, was not a great passer.

Tarris does have great form/touch, issue is that it doesn’t really translate to the free throw line, so hard to see any consistency from 3.
 
Centers shooting 3s is highly overrated. Went over this on the board already about how most young centers hardly shoot outside of 3’.

Also when Sanogo added 3s it’s because he had already mastered his post game and face up game. Reed is not there yet.
It's not overrated at all. It's the difference between a guy like Kalkbrenner sitting the paint and shutting down drives or being forced to come out and guard the 5 away from the paint. It's hugely beneficial for spacing in a motion offense, not as an actual offensive weapon.

That's what the video is all about. Scare opponents out of drop coverage.
 
It's hugely beneficial for spacing in a motion offense, not as an actual offensive weapon.
To me that’s the biggest benefit for our offense. We saw it with Sanogo. If effective, a big man that can shoot adds a huge wrinkle when they’re out on the perimeter as a screener. It just expands the playbook and by extension, what opposing teams have the guard against, quite a bit.
 
I think it's telling this video was taken on his visit home and not in a UConn practice. Great looking shot but I am hesitant to imagine he'll be taking them with any regularity here.
 
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This is just not true. Reed shot 73% on 166 attempts at the rim last year, Sanogo shot 63% on 175 attempts the year before he started working on and taking 3's
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No, Sanogo had unbelievable post moves. I'm saying that if you think Sanogo had mastered the post moves enough to work on his 3 point shot, regardless of how he's getting it done, Reed shot 10% higher so should be getting the same opportunity by your logic
If you don't think Reed is better in the post than Sanogo I'm not sure why you're using this stat that would say he is to prove a point.

Seems like a stat that needs context and wouldnt be taken at face value.
 
Hurley said at the practice on Friday he won't let Tarris sniff the three point line unless he is shooting 70%+ from the FT line and dominating's everything in and around the paint
This staff has a history of making Bigs keep the main thing the main thing until they show they have that all the way down. Which I appreciate.

Whaley also didn't start taking those 3s until he got all the essentials of playing center and being a big down. Him having to play the 4 also accelerated that of course.
 
If you don't think Reed is better in the post than Sanogo I'm not sure why you're using this stat that would say he is to prove a point.

Seems like a stat that needs context and wouldnt be taken at face value.
Because I don't care how Reed does it, he can kick the ball every time or use his head on alley oops, if it goes in 73% of the time then he's clearly mastered the ability to score in the post. And if you don't think he has, then Adama Sanogo clearly hadn't done it when shooting 63%
 
I don't get any of the negative or dismissive comments about a kid who is trying to expand his game and improve his value to this team and the next level of play.
If he can hit one here and there it will really open up things for other guys. With Karaban on the floor, it could force both the C and PF from other team to have to leave the paint and allow guys to drive or a big guard like Demary to flash and do a quick post up on a smaller guard when those match-ups occur.
We've seen that Hurley & staff have embraced the European style of play. I think if he's wide open, he'll be allowed to shoot as long as it's not early in the shot clock. If it was Calhoun or Ollie coaching, I would change that belief, but Hurley clearly what's guys who can shoot at every position. It opens up a lot of screening action and backdoor cuts.
It is a natural looking stroke. Sanogo addrf the 3, but it was a funky little almost set shot. Still though, it was effective at times and he knew when to shoot it.
 
do we think that all basketball players aren't practicing from everywhere on the floor? do we think that because he did one three point shooting workout, that means he isn't focusing on post game? is he just supposed to never shoot a three any time in his life?
 
Don’t think he’ll shoot 3s in any meaningful games, but my optimistic view is this should help on his free throws. Shows the touch is there to be a 75% type guy if he’s working on it.
And Tarris has been pretty good with his first step up faking guys and then rolling to the hoop. Hopefully he can hit a few so when he gets the pass near the top of the key, his defender reacts and he can take it in hard for the and 1
 
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To me that’s the biggest benefit for our offense. We saw it with Sanogo. If effective, a big man that can shoot adds a huge wrinkle when they’re out on the perimeter as a screener. It just expands the playbook and by extension, what opposing teams have the guard against, quite a bit.
Yes, and if he could prove capable of hitting a couple here and there it might make it harder for McDermott to play rope-a-dope with his centers and pack the paint the way he did with Kalk. Always seemed to fluster UConn.
 
Well here goes…if we play Reibe and Reed together it could work since Reibe is certainly going to shoot threes. Both of them in the game with Stewart at the 3 Mullins at the 2 and Demary at point……huge lineup.

We could never find a combination like that last year. And Reibe can pass from what I saw in the FIBA U19 tourney.
 
Well here goes…if we play Reibe and Reed together it could work since Reibe is certainly going to shoot threes.

We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4
 
If he can shoot them, it gives even more options to the offense, will open the middle, more flow, etc. Also makes it more difficult for whoever guards him to do their job…can’t just park in the lane.
Agree. If whoever is covering him doesn't vacate the paint and Reed can hit that shot at a decent clip, that's 3 points when they fall. All it takes is him knocking down 1 or 2 early 3s and the paint will open up for cutters. With Reibe coming in as a stretch 4/5 combo, if Reed can do the same, the offense flow and sets can run more consistently and not require a different flow if both bigs have similar capabilities, though Reed will likely be a more dangerous scorer creating for himself close to the basket.

It would also increase his draft potential since the NBA loves bigs who can stretch the D. Danny always seems to balance winning and trying to help his players develop an NBA game.
 
It would also increase his draft potential since the NBA loves bigs who can stretch the D. Danny always seems to balance winning and trying to help his players develop an NBA game.
Who are these 25 and under coveted centers known for stretching the D?
 
We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4

We aren't seeing them together barring calamity. Stewart and AK have the 4 locked down solid.

Reibe and Reed can't guard the 4
Yeah I know was just trying to introduce the play two bigs argument into the thread to see what would happen. But I do think if we want to see our center shoot threes that Reibe will be that player.

In watching him he looks to have offensive skills from all three levels but I wonder if he (Reibe) will be strong enough to battle down low for the majority of his time on the floor. So I see a lot of face up play coming from him and I did see a nice mid range 8-12ft game from him.

In the end I think we will finally see a big that Hurley allows to shoot from three as part of his regular game not just to space the floor but because he has the shot to be very effective from outside.
 
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He definitely has good form, better than I would have expected, but I am skeptical this will translate into games. My problem is that these are all essentially "rhythm 3s" catch while stepping forward and shooting, the easiest kind to make, but its not the kind of 3s he'd potentially take in a game. Any three he takes would likely be after standing still with the ball for a few seconds unguarded and taking a shot, that's a lot harder if you're not a natural shooter.
 
The likelihood is that this is just Reed working on a skill that he thinks he needs for the next level. If he takes a few in the early season scrub games and makes a decent %, it has the potential to impact how defenses scout and play us, but I seriously doubt that he'll take more than a dozen all year.
 
Understood with the use of the word mastered. We agree on the overall point.

Sanogo unfortunately didn't have the physical tools to make the league regardless of his 3 ball or not.

Reed wont have the same issue and can follow the path of another guy who's a pretty good physical comp for him in Jalen Duren. Another player who doesn't shoot shots outside of 3’.

I just personally don't get the hype for a close to 7’ taking 3s as a role player. If I'm an opposing coach I’ll live and die with Reed taking that shot all season if that's what he really wants to do.

Especially if that means less stress on my center from banging, them not getting in foul trouble, and keeping Reed off the boards.

Duren's a good comp, but I think he's a far better athlete (run/jump) than Reed. Reed will need to add another element to stick in the league.
 
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We’ve seen this in the off-season with Sanogo and Clingan too. Question is, will Hurley let him shoot them in games? Even better question is, why would he need to with all the shooters we have?
No. It is developing his game for professional ranks. He might take a couple. But it wont be a large volume
 
Duren's a good comp, but I think he's a far better athlete (run/jump) than Reed. Reed will need to add another element to stick in the league.
I think Duren's is more explosive and Reed is more skilled. Which is better suited for the professional ranks is hard to say but Reed has a lot of catching up to do as they are approximately the same age.
 
Well here goes…if we play Reibe and Reed together it could work since Reibe is certainly going to shoot threes. Both of them in the game with Stewart at the 3 Mullins at the 2 and Demary at point……huge lineup.


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