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Message: [QUOTE="RichZ, post: 2718635, member: 534"] I don't know about 'unnatural stiffness' on his jumper, but his toes are like 6" from the ground on his jumper. Not much elevation at all. Also, his dunks remind me of mine from '63/'64. Ain't no way they gonna happen in a game. The combination of limited hand size and barely getting up high enough to rattle the rim is less than ideal. I couldn't quite get high enough to dunk two handed, and couldn't control the ball well enough with one hand to execute a dunk in the real world. I recognize the same limitations - although maybe not to the same extent - in Smith. [/QUOTE]