Talent vs. Coaching - A Silly Argument.

[Duncan Idaho]

The Diaco theme coming in here was Rise up. Together... and its happening, all involved.

 

[Nostical]

Look guys, I'm not that hard headed. I recognize the interconnect of players and coaches. I also get that coaches identify player potential, develop and maximize talent to try and assure the greatest impact on team success via practice and conditioning. Then coaches try to match a game plan to the strengths of the current squad--measured against the weaknesses of the opponent. I get all that.
I guess where we differ is in who I place the greatest responsibility on for this team's success. Not some team--some year, but this team, this year. Given our current roster and our current coaches it is my opinion that we had a greater chance of winning with our current players as long as the nuts and bolts of coaching (play calling, time management, etc.) improved. We had less of a chance to win if our coaches did not wake up to their deficiencies and we merely switched our roster around. In other words, the "talent" of our players was not holding us back. It was more the coaches failing to use that talent in the most appropriate ways. Now, with both areas improving I am encouraged about the future. We will see the proof on Saturday.
With that I will close the book on the subject. I appreciate the give and take.

 

[J187Money]

Look guys, I'm not that hard headed. I recognize the interconnect of players and coaches. I also get that coaches identify player potential, develop and maximize talent to try and assure the greatest impact on team success via practice and conditioning. Then coaches try to match a game plan to the strengths of the current squad--measured against the weaknesses of the opponent. I get all that. I guess where we differ is in who I place the greatest responsibility on for this team's success. Not some team--some year, but this team, this year. Given our current roster and our current coaches it is my opinion that we had a greater chance of winning with our current players as long as the nuts and bolts of coaching (play calling, time management, etc.) improved. We had less of a chance to win if our coaches did not wake up to their deficiencies and we merely switched our roster around. In other words, the "talent" of our players was not holding us back. It was more the coaches failing to use that talent in the most appropriate ways. Now, with both areas improving I am encouraged about the future. We will see the proof on Saturday. With that I will close the book on the subject. I appreciate the give and take.

But if you hung out with the coaches and realized (just to make something up) that it took certain talented players 100 times to pick up a concept you might have the opposite opinion.

The cupboard isn't bare and yet teams like Cincy are obviously more talented. The coaches are also inexperienced. At the end of the day the record is the record.