Syracuse attendance

[VAMike23]

But the little money is all in boys concussionball.

Lol

(Not a funny subject, of course, but a funny wordplay)

 

[Kibitzer]

Permit me to repeat my earlier post (different thread):

"I'm doing my cards. I have a special one for Syracuse Coach Quentin Hillsman. The two words on it are not 'Merry Christmas.'" ​

 

[watanabe]

I'm glad we didn't contribute to the Saracuse program by playing there. I still remember the Saracuse player trying to trip Geno (in the handshake line) because they are sore losers.
You don't attack a coach, Period. I have a short "do not play" list. Tennessee and Saracuse.

 

[Sargassoc]

But the little money is all in boys concussionball.

Brilliant; I may have to steal this phrase.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Brilliant; I may have to steal this phrase.

Already trademarked it like Pat Riley's threepeat, but I'll be really appreciative of all those 6-figure royalty checks you'll be sending me. Might be able to afford courtside seats at the Mohegan Sun now.

 

[Gus Mahler]

Am I being led to believe the The Orange women actually play in the Carrier Dome? What it must cost just to heat that place!

Holy hot air bag, Batman!

 

[Biff]

Am I being led to believe the The Orange women actually play in the Carrier Dome? What it must cost just to heat that place!

Holy hot air bag, Batman!

If my failing memory serves me here, and it probably isn't, I think that they converted the old BB gym into some kind of multi-sports practice facility? I'm sure someone out there can tell me I'm either on the right track or all screwed up here (and it's probably the latter)

 

[DobbsRover2]

Am I being led to believe the The Orange women actually play in the Carrier Dome? What it must cost just to heat that place!

Holy hot air bag, Batman!

The Orange do play their games in the Carrier Dome, a cavernous expanse that dwarfs the action and magnifies the emptiness so exemplified by the non-attendees. I have never seen a basketball game there but have watched many HS football games, and that place has always been frighteningly dry and hot. Football teams have just dropped dead from cramps and heat exhaustion by the second half. Don't know what they pay to heat the Dome, but with Syracuse winters being pretty nasty, I guess they like big hot places up there.

 

[WestCoastFan]

I assume that Syracuse would charge for a Uconn game. I wonder how much income Syracuse gave up by not scheduling Uconn.

Enough to cover Boeheim's legal fees??

 

[Gus Mahler]

I was conversing with a colleague at work earlier today and part of the focus was on a female colleague, an executive, whose attire might be politely described as beyond mainstream. At some point my colleague, a Ph.D. sociologist and ardent feminist, brought up Kim Mulkey’s attire. She seemed to be favorable toward Kim’s choices. For fun I related EastTexasTrash’s campaign to post a different picture of her each week, and I then described a couple. She, the Ph.D., then brought up Muffett McGraw. I don’t remember why. I commented that in general I liked what Muffett wore but then made the grand mistake of saying the black leather dress and animal print top she wore at the 2014 championship game (I think) was an exception, that it was a bit much for me and that I didn’t think a woman her age should wear something like that to such an occasion. I was courteously reminded that it is not my place to judge what a middle-aged woman, or any woman for that matter, ought or ought not wear. She then generously shared with me the video floating around on the web which illustrates the issue of how male athletes are not asked the same questions women athletes or sideline reporters are asked.

Which brings me to what I want to say. I think it is fairly interesting from a gender equity standpoint what the different schools are doing regarding facilities and whether women are on equal footing and in what sense. Consider the case of UNC-Chapel Hill. It is my understanding the school spent $40 million on the recent renovation of Carmichael Auditorium, now called Carmichael Arena. The women ballers, and I assume the volleyball and gymnastics teams, now have a facility of their own and won’t be squeezed out of practice time and such. It’s an on-campus facility and features modern seats, electronics, and presumably many bathrooms. I don’t know the seating capacity. When Michael Jordon played there, I think it was a little smaller than Cameron Indoor Stadium. The men now of course play in the Dean Dome, which seats 20,000 or thereabouts.

Is this fair? Is this separate yet equitable? Which is better: Having your own facility that was modernized and specialized for your needs, or playing in the same facility as the men? What are the other considerations? Is one more favorable for recruiting? Television? Cost efficiencies? As Biff points out, in the case of the Orange women, there might not be a choice. But if you are an AD looking to do something, or are a promoter of gender equity, what should you do?

What say you, ‘yarders?

 

[Kibitzer]

are an AD looking to do something, or are a promoter of gender equity, what should you do?

What say you, ‘yarders?

I would suggest to any AD that s/he emulate the UConn model: equal (and incomparable) practice facilities and identical home game facilities. Plus a shared "First Night," even including joint autograph signing and mixed scrimmage.

 

[ctkaiser]

Naw, yer thinkin' Jeff Walz: this is Hillsman, for whom appearances matter, and risk is to be avoided.

If appearances matter to Hillsman why are his ties so short?

 

[pinotbear]

If appearances matter to Hillsman why are his ties so short?

jes' because appearance matter doesn't mean the man's got good taste...!

 

[Zorro]

 

[meyers7]

"it was readily apparent that Colgate incurred an added administrative burden logistically and financially . . . "

Not to me. My guest is that the administrative burden wouldn't have been that much greater than any other home game.

Well according to the coach they had to put a lot of extra effort into the game from an administrative standpoint.

 

[vtcwbuff]

"I was courteously reminded that it is not my place to judge what a middle-aged woman, or any woman for that matter, ought or ought not wear . . . "

Did you ask your colleague to explain why millions of women spend jillions of dollars on cloths, makeup, jewelry etc. if not to be judged?

 

[meyers7]

"I was courteously reminded that it is not my place to judge what a middle-aged woman, or any woman for that matter, ought or ought not wear . . . "

Did you ask your colleague to explain why millions of women spend jillions of dollars on cloths, makeup, jewelry etc. if not to be judged?

Ah but they don't do that for men, they do that for the women that judge. Guys really don't care that much.

 

[Gus Mahler]

"I was courteously reminded that it is not my place to judge what a middle-aged woman, or any woman for that matter, ought or ought not wear . . . "

Did you ask your colleague to explain why millions of women spend jillions of dollars on cloths, makeup, jewelry etc. if not to be judged?

Darn. I should have. Probably I'll get another chance.

 

[CTyankee]

So, 'Cuse had attendance of 335, about 1% of the arena capacity. Meanwhile, Colgate had a record crowd of 1,782--100% of capacity--at higher-than-normal ticket prices. 'Cuse could have had 5,000+, maybe well beyond that. Such short-sightedness on the part of the Orange. Congrats to Colgate!

And raspberries for Quentin for being narrowminded.

 

[vtcwbuff]

Ah but they don't do that for men, they do that for the women that judge. Guys really don't care that much.

Yeah, that's what they tell their bfs and husbands but how do you explain thongs, spike heels and miniskirts?

 

[meyers7]

Yeah, that's what they tell their bfs and husbands but how do you explain thongs, spike heels and miniskirts?

Well spiked heels and mini skirts are to demonstrate superiority over other women. Thongs of course don't leave panty lines.