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Surprisingly good/underwhelming WNBA players

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DeWanna Bonner comes to mind for me-Those that remember her being drafted, the reports were not kind. Now, she is in year 14-15 and still doing great things.

Underperforming-I think that could apply to a lot of players. But to be fair, a lot of that depends on the teams that players are on.

Bonner got more flack for being underweight/too thin/etc than probably any other player in WNBA history but she's been one of the most durable players in the league. She's never missed more than 4 games in a season or had a serious injury, is number 6 all time in career minutes and she has scored double figures in all 15 seasons with no sign of slowing down.
 
I will defend Deshields a bit in that her health hasn't been great and has no doubt impacted her game.

I also get the vibe she isn't an overall confident player. There is a difference between confident and cocky and some players (DT, Clark, Reese) have both. Deshields has at times shown herself to be cocky but not always confident even back in her college days.
 
This explains why her career tailed off after 2019 (she was stellar her first 2 seasons).



Plus she missed all of last year with a knee injury. Definitely a tough road for her.
Thanks for posting this. That's one tough young lady.
 
Good:
DeWanna Bonner comes to mind for me-Those that remember her being drafted, the reports were not kind. Now, she is in year 14-15 and still doing great things.

Underperforming-I think that could apply to a lot of players. But to be fair, a lot of that depends on the teams that players are on.

DWB is either 5th or 6th in WNBA career scoring. That's very impressive.
 
Jayne Appel occurs to me. She had a decent pro career, stuck around for a few years. I just remember her slaying UConn a few times, so I expected great things from her.

I do seem to remember her playing time being limited in the W, maybe by knees.
 
I’ve always wondered if Lauren Cox’s condition (diabetes) impacted her transition. She was never a superb athlete but was one of the two or three best players in the country her senior year and I thought she’d be an All-Star in the league.

A few players I think have been better than expected:
  • A’ja Wilson (I know this one seems outrageous but I don’t think most saw her as the next best player in the world which she clearly is at this point)
  • Angel Reese
  • Courtney Williams
  • Sug Sutton
  • Sophie Cunningham
A few players I thought would stick in the league who haven’t to date:
  • Christyn Williams
  • Destanni Henderson
  • Elissa Cunane
  • Bella Alarie
  • Megan Walker
  • Charli Collier
Sophie Cunningham has been a huge surprise to me. A'ja Wilson has not. I think anyone who watched her closely throughout college would have recognized the potential to be the best at the next level.

Zia Cooke and Victaria Saxton surprised me. I thought Cooke would be nailed to the bench, not a regular rotation player. Never expected Saxton to make a roster.
 
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Jayne Appel occurs to me. She had a decent pro career, stuck around for a few years. I just remember her slaying UConn a few times, so I expected great things from her.

I do seem to remember her playing time being limited in the W, maybe by knees.

Jayne was limited by poor conditioning at the end of her career. She outplayed Tina early on in college, but TC upped her game as a junior at UConn.
 
Not quite the same question, but 3 players struggled early on—even losing starting spots—but then became really, really good, even making All-WNBA: Skylar, Kelsey, and Jackie.
 
Jayne was limited by poor conditioning at the end of her career.
I don't think it was poor conditioning, it was injuries. Per wiki she sprained her ankle and had a stress fracture in her leg in the first game of the NCAA Tourney during her Sr. season. She was a shell of herself as the Tourney continued on.
 
Honestly, I can’t speak to their college years, but the players I enjoy watching the most are JJ, Kahlea Cooper and Benijah Laney-Hamilton. I’m also a big fan of De’Arica Hamby. All are having great pro careers.

One of my biggest disappointments this season is Cooper to Phoenix. I don’t see much of the Mercury and have not ever really been a fan of the team. I miss Cooper at Chicago.
 
Sophie Cunningham has been a huge surprise to me. A'ja Wilson has not. I think anyone who watched her closely throughout college would have recognized the potential to be the best at the next level.

Zia Cooke and Victaria Saxton surprised me. I thought Cooke would be nailed to the bench, not a regular rotation player. Never expected Saxton to make a roster.
i have to believe only reason she's on a roster is because connection to a, boston. in 2 seasons she probably doesn't have 40 total minutesplayed...
 
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I'm curious why being diabetic would effect a pro athlete any differently than a college athlete. Adam Morrison is another diabetic who didn't make it as a pro, after a fantastic college career.
My best friend, a type 1 diabetic since around 8, passed away at 29 by heart attack. Diabetics was the underlying cause of all of his health issues, mostly with feet and nerve endings. He was all-state in basketball, and pitched a no-hitter in high school.

Diabetes is a terrible disease. Back then, if you reached 40 you had a long life. Thank god it’s better now, but it still not cured.
 
My best friend, a type 1 diabetic since around 8, passed away at 29 by heart attack. Diabetics was the underlying cause of all of his health issues, mostly with feet and nerve endings. He was all-state in basketball, and pitched a no-hitter in high school.

Diabetes is a terrible disease. Back then, if you reached 40 you had a long life. Thank god it’s better now, but it still not cured.
I had a cousin who was diabetic around age 12. He died young as well, but not related to diabetes.
 
I don't think it was poor conditioning, it was injuries. Per wiki she sprained her ankle and had a stress fracture in her leg in the first game of the NCAA Tourney during her Sr. season. She was a shell of herself as the Tourney continued on.
I assume by “at the end of her career” Milford meant last few seasons in the WNBA. I would concur that Jayne didn’t look the same her last couple of years. Of course it’s possible or likely that her wheels didn’t allow her to train as hard as when she was younger.
 
I don't think it was poor conditioning, it was injuries. Per wiki she sprained her ankle and had a stress fracture in her leg in the first game of the NCAA Tourney during her Sr. season. She was a shell of herself as the Tourney continued on.

I was referring to her time in the pros. Jayne played in San Antonio for 2010-16. I would say that she was a good 40 pounds overweight in 2015-16.
 
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Honestly, I can’t speak to their college years, but the players I enjoy watching the most are JJ, Kahlea Cooper and Benijah Laney-Hamilton. I’m also a big fan of De’Arica Hamby. All are having great pro careers.

One of my biggest disappointments this season is Cooper to Phoenix. I don’t see much of the Mercury and have not ever really been a fan of the team. I miss Cooper at Chicago.
Kahleah Copper. A star at Rutgers, but after the time we were in NJ.

I admit mixed feelings about the Mercury, although I do root for them. Shortly after moving out here - maybe 2012 or 2013 - we did a partial (3 game) season ticket package, but it is awkward getting to Phoenix from Tucson for games (particularly, that it is too late after the game to feel completely comfortable driving 2 hours home).

They are not bad to watch, and I always root for former Rutgers players and have always liked Griner and DT (as a pro). But they have never seemed to have consistency, have gone through some coaching issues and the truth is I watch so few WNBA games to begin with . . .
 
Who are some players that have been much better (or worse) than you thought they'd be coming out of college? Some of my picks:

Better than expected:

Marina Mabrey-She's been much much better than I thought she'd be. I didn't think she had the foot speed or quickness to last in the pros and she's thriving.

Karlie Samuelson-never expected her to last in the pros, let alone be a better pro than her sister

Ariel Atkins-people thought she was drafted too high in 2018 but she's panned out to be an excellent pro after a fine but not spectacular college career.

Dijonai Carrington-she's emerging as one of the better guards in the league this season. She was solid in Baylor/Stanford but I didn't think she'd become this good.


Worse than expected:

Lauren Cox-she was an unbelievable post defender in college and a great passer with a midrange game. I thought her game would translate much better than it did.

Ruthy Hebard-she was sensational in college and I thought she had the pro frame and athleticism to make her mark in the pros.
I expected her to be the star she is, but slipping to #6 in the draft reflected how underrated Napheesa Collier was. I imagine she was viewed as undersized for her position.
 
I expected her to be the star she is, but slipping to #6 in the draft reflected how underrated Napheesa Collier was. I imagine she was viewed as undersized for her position.
If I remember correctly, most thought she’d go #4 and Samuelson being picked there was a surprise. Collier was projected as a tad undersized but she had a brilliant senior year and most thought she’d be a solid pro.

That draft was viewed as strong and deep but I don’t think a lot of people thought Young/Collier/Ogunbowale would all turn into massive stars. There wasn’t a “can’t miss” number one pick like an A’ja Wilson, Caitlin Clark or Breanna Stewart type of player.
 
i have to believe only reason she's on a roster is because connection to a, boston. in 2 seasons she probably doesn't have 40 total minutesplayed...
That’s a pretty ridiculous statement TBH and is disrespectful to both players. Aliyah doesn’t need a babysitter, nor does she need a companion. She has a BF.

Getting back to the subject, I thought Phee would be a good player, but not MVP caliper.

CharlI Collier might be the most surprising. Drafted #1, never got much PT, waived after a couple of years and vanished.
 
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Why would people think that? There are a couple of players on every team that don’t get much PT. Aliyah doesn’t need a babysitter. I’m a Gamecock and I was also surprised she made it last year but I assure you it wasn’t because of Aliyah. Destanni Henderson was already there if she needed a friend.

Not sayin it’s true, but I’ve read this numerous times from different people
 
Not sayin it’s true, but I’ve read this numerous times from different people
I’m not going to argue because this is a great thread, and I don’t want it to get locked but both of those young women have worked hard to get where they are.
 
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I thought A'ja was good in college, but not transcendent. Notably her teams never beat UConn. To her credit, she has improved a lot in the pros--especially her shooting and ability to go to the right. Every year, she has gotten better. She's either 1 or 1a in the world right now.
She's THE clearcut #1--there hasn't been a "1a/1b" situation since October 18, 2023 (and maybe even a month before that).
 
Bonner got more flack for being underweight/too thin/etc than probably any other player in WNBA history but she's been one of the most durable players in the league. She's never missed more than 4 games in a season or had a serious injury, is number 6 all time in career minutes and she has scored double figures in all 15 seasons with no sign of slowing down.
Yep. I remember reading/hearing how the so-called experts said that Bonner would not last long because of the physical nature of the game, much like how they are saying the same things about a certain #1 pick. How with her slight frame, she would take a beating and suffer injuries. Thanks for pointing out how she rarely misses games. Bonner has played herself into a Hall of Fame career.
 
Yep. I remember reading/hearing how the so-called experts said that Bonner would not last long because of the physical nature of the game, much like how they are saying the same things about a certain #1 pick. How with her slight frame, she would take a beating and suffer injuries. Thanks for pointing out how she rarely misses games. Bonner has played herself into a Hall of Fame career.

DWB is now about 5th or 6th in career scoring, plus she gave birth to twins. Quite the accomplishments!
 
I thought A'ja was good in college, but not transcendent. Notably her teams never beat UConn. To her credit, she has improved a lot in the pros--especially her shooting and ability to go to the right. Every year, she has gotten better. She's either 1 or 1a in the world right now.
This has been my sense of A'ja too. Good in college, tremendous as a pro. I've observed elsewhere that bigs can often have the most surprising leap in talent in the pros. Maybe it's because the whole timetable for them is longer than for guards. Maybe it's because they're not so hamstrung by the narrow way college games are reffed. But players like A'ja and Jonquel seem like they've been unleashed as pros.

This same thought leaves me wondering about Angel Reese. She has limited offensive skills, but has a tremendous will to compete. That's what we're seeing from her this year -- essentially she's playing the same as she did in her junior year at LSU. Can she develop an outside shot, or even a midrange shot? Or is that ferocious competitive spirit enough to keep her in the game?
 
This has been my sense of A'ja too. Good in college, tremendous as a pro. I've observed elsewhere that bigs can often have the most surprising leap in talent in the pros. Maybe it's because the whole timetable for them is longer than for guards. Maybe it's because they're not so hamstrung by the narrow way college games are reffed. But players like A'ja and Jonquel seem like they've been unleashed as pros.

This same thought leaves me wondering about Angel Reese. She has limited offensive skills, but has a tremendous will to compete. That's what we're seeing from her this year -- essentially she's playing the same as she did in her junior year at LSU. Can she develop an outside shot, or even a midrange shot? Or is that ferocious competitive spirit enough to keep her in the game?

Angel is an odd combo of awkward and athletic, plus she plays with tremendous energy. I think her rebounds are overstated, because lot of them are on her own misses.
 
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