OT: Super Bowl potpourri

[superjohn]

Kelce is a tool. Assualting your coach on the sideline is a sign of that. The stuff at the podium…T. Swift even looked embarrassed.

He's alright, the Kelce's bros are an unreal story. That looked pretty awful though, he knocked Andy Reid off his feet and he didn't trip.

 

[superjohn]

I must have aged out of boomers, because I didn’t recognize any of them but Alicia Keys. I’ll take the 80yo Stones anytime.

Usher is probably your age.

 

[UCfor3]

I always laugh at young people calling anything that happened before thier time for boomers. They need to look up the age range for baby boomers Prince...not a boomer performer. The Rolling Stones are from the boomer era. Ive heard an "ok boomer" directed at a 35 year old.

 

[uconnfan68]

Usher is probably your age.

I’m closer to Jagger.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I always laugh at young people calling anything that happened before thier time for boomers. They need to look up the age range for baby boomers Prince...not a boomer performer. The Rolling Stones are from the boomer era. Ive heard an "ok boomer" directed at a 35 year old.

I'd agree that Prince isn't seen as a boomer performer, but (like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Vernon Reid, Ice-T, Grandmaster Flash, Belinda Carlisle, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Kate Bush, Anita Baker, Jools, Holland, Thomas Dolby, Martin Fry, Alan Jackson, Tanya Tucker, Paul Weller, Jello Biafra, Bela Fleck, Marty Stuart, Thurston Moore, Bill Berry, Steve Nieve, Michael Penn, Joan Jett, Andy Gibb, Shaun Cassidy, Joe Diffie, Mike Mills, Andrea Bocelli, Don Byron, Neil Finn, Grant McLennon, Michael Flatley, and Kevin Mahogany), he was born in 1958, which is totally late Boomer, meaning he came of age when things enlarged to include punk, disco, rap, Americana, electronica, and all kinds of hybrid musical expression, and did it on the large scale level that the hybridization had sought to repudiate and make irrelevant as independent sensibilities sought to assert dominance over corporatized arena rock. Multiracial, politicized, androgynous, and other alternative points of view broadened popular culture options which have continued ever since, though there have always been forces that have wanted & needed massive scale entertainment to fill out spaces as large as Super Bowl halftime shows.

I think this was the only complete NFL game I watched all year, and it was the first 4K broadcast I've watched in my own home, delivered via T-Mobile 5G internet (which was advertised twice).

It was a pretty good game, and I recognized a high majority of the attending celebrities and those in the commercials, even as I finally looked it up and learned that I'm older than 85% of the US population, which is probably why my educated guess on Alicia Keys was the only performer I knew.

My biggest heads up was when they announced the 2024 Hall of Fame Inductees, and I had not ever heard of any of them. I found that far more delightful than concerning.

 

[Devland]

It was blocked. Chiefs D made a lot of clutch plays. Lots of critical pass break ups.

It was technically blocked, but it was kicked so low that it almost hit one of his own linemen in the helmet.

 

[superjohn]

When did John Elway become Gary Busey?

34 years ago. When Johnny Utah was getting those meatball subs and Swayze was robbing the bank in the Nixon mask it was Elway. He was there, he reacted, he ended the bank robbing crew.

 

[DRBackup]

I'm GenX and knew all of Ushers songs.

I'm here to confirm that's you, not GenX

 

[DRBackup]

I'd agree that Prince isn't seen as a boomer performer, but (like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Vernon Reid, Ice-T, Grandmaster Flash, Belinda Carlisle, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Kate Bush, Anita Baker, Jools, Holland, Thomas Dolby, Martin Fry, Alan Jackson, Tanya Tucker, Paul Weller, Jello Biafra, Bela Fleck, Marty Stuart, Thurston Moore, Bill Berry, Steve Nieve, Michael Penn, Joan Jett, Andy Gibb, Shaun Cassidy, Joe Diffie, Mike Mills, Andrea Bocelli, Don Byron, Neil Finn, Grant McLennon, Michael Flatley, and Kevin Mahogany), he was born in 1958, which is totally late Boomer, meaning he came of age when things enlarged to include punk, disco, rap, Americana, electronica, and all kinds of hybrid musical expression, and did it on the large scale level that the hybridization had sought to repudiate and make irrelevant as independent sensibilities sought to assert dominance over corporatized arena rock. Multiracial, politicized, androgynous, and other alternative points of view broadened popular culture options which have continued ever since, though there have always been forces that have wanted & needed massive scale entertainment to fill out spaces as large as Super Bowl halftime shows.

I think this was the only complete NFL game I watched all year, and it was the first 4K broadcast I've watched in my own home, delivered via T-Mobile 5G internet (which was advertised twice).

It was a pretty good game, and I recognized a high majority of the attending celebrities and those in the commercials, even as I finally looked it up and learned that I'm older than 85% of the US population, which is probably why my educated guess on Alicia Keys was the only performer I knew.

My biggest heads up was when they announced the 2024 Hall of Fame Inductees, and I had not ever heard of any of them. I found that far more delightful than concerning.

You've seriously never heard of Dwight Freeney, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers, or Patrick Willis ???

 

[storrsroars]

I'd agree that Prince isn't seen as a boomer performer, but (like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Vernon Reid, Ice-T, Grandmaster Flash, Belinda Carlisle, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Kate Bush, Anita Baker, Jools, Holland, Thomas Dolby, Martin Fry, Alan Jackson, Tanya Tucker, Paul Weller, Jello Biafra, Bela Fleck, Marty Stuart, Thurston Moore, Bill Berry, Steve Nieve, Michael Penn, Joan Jett, Andy Gibb, Shaun Cassidy, Joe Diffie, Mike Mills, Andrea Bocelli, Don Byron, Neil Finn, Grant McLennon, Michael Flatley, and Kevin Mahogany), he was born in 1958, which is totally late Boomer

Color me amazed you've even heard of Jello. That said, I can't fathom you ever listening to Dead Kennedys.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I’m kind of thinking of watching this game on Nickelodeon for some reason.

It’s a lot cheaper than a tab or two of LSD.

 

[Rocktheworld]

How in the hell is Prince not someone who was big for boomers lmaooooo he came up in the late 70s early 80s

Maybe some of you need to look up the definition of a baby boomer. Anyone born up to like ‘64 is a boomer.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Usher is probably your age.

He was born in 78.

It's not just time period, it's genre. I haven't had "pop" music on the radio (or streaming) since the 80s. Even then I preferred classic rock. My knowledge of rap/hip hop (don't ask me what the difference is) consists of Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC doing Aerosmith and couple of Public Enemy songs from Do the Right Thing. Oh, and Summertime by Will Smith.

 

[HuskyHawk]

How in the hell is Prince not someone who was big for boomers lmaooooo

Because people get set into their music choices when young. Prince is more Gen-X and very late boomer. Purple Rain came out in 1984. Boomers start at 1946-64.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Because people get set into their music choices when young.

That’s not true at all. All the pop stuff I am familiar with and like is what I heard in high school and college. My DJ for my wedding, credit to him, asked my fiancé and I when we graduated from high school to help with music selection; he said he goes 5 years prior and beyond said year. So basically what came out when someone was 13 to 23.

 

[HuskyHawk]

That’s not true at all. All the pop stuff I am familiar with and like is what I heard in high school and college. My DJ for my wedding, credit to him, asked my fiancé and I when we graduated from high school to help with music selection; he said he goes 5 years prior and beyond said year.

Yes, and except for two years of Boomers, they were out of college by 1984. I'm Gen X and I graduated HS in 84. Purple Rain was a very big thing. The 80's and early 90's are the Gen-X decade culturally. The Breakfast Club is the most Gen-X movie of all time. So sure, very late boomers probably like Prince. Early boomers graduated HS in 1968. For me, I go about 20 years prior and 5 years beyond.

Edit: I think the perception of "Boomer" varies. For younger people they are probably seen as older, boring people that aren't cool. When I think Boomer, I think of my babysitters when I was a kid. My neighbor Debbie who had hair to her waist and made candles. I think of Hippies and Vietnam protest music.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[storrsroars]

Because people get set into their music choices when young. Prince is more Gen-X and very late boomer. Purple Rain came out in 1984. Boomers start at 1946-64.

Speak for yourself. I'd rather listen to Prince 24/7 than any "classic rock" station. One of my favorite eras for music was mid-90s (and not grunge, but Radiohead, Paul Weller, and a whole lot of Brit stuff with some Americana). Give me the Repacements over Lynyrd Skynyrd and AC/DC every day of the week.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Speak for yourself. I'd rather listen to Prince 24/7 than any "classic rock" station.

They play Prince on the classic rock stations.

 

[storrsroars]

They play Prince on the classic rock stations.

And the other 99% is geezer crap I tired of by 1978. What's your point?

 

[HuskyHawk]

And the other 99% is geezer crap I tired of by 1978. What's your point?

We are all different and have unique tastes. My daughter is 20, her age group loves The Cure and a bunch of 80s music, also 2000s era rock like Arctic Monkeys, but also newer stuff and Taylor Swift. My point is that your genre choice still seems to be mostly rock oriented. Usher doesn't sound like Radiohead.

 

[storrsroars]

We are all different and have unique tastes. My daughter is 20, her age group loves The Cure and a bunch of 80s music, also 2000s era rock like Arctic Monkeys, but also newer stuff and Taylor Swift. My point is that your genre choice still seems to be mostly rock oriented. Usher doesn't sound like Radiohead.

Usher is more R&B than hip hop. R&B is one of many genres I enjoy.

Had you stated, "we are all different and have unique tastes" before proclaiming boomers' musical tastes were set in stone in the 60s and early 70s, we wouldn't have an issue.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Yes, and except for two years of Boomers, they were out of college by 1984. I'm Gen X and I graduated HS in 84. Purple Rain was a very big thing. The 80's and early 90's are the Gen-X decade culturally. The Breakfast Club is the most Gen-X movie of all time. So sure, very late boomers probably like Prince. Early boomers graduated HS in 1968. For me, I go about 20 years prior and 5 years beyond.

Edit: I think the perception of "Boomer" varies. For younger people they are probably seen as older, boring people that aren't cool. When I think Boomer, I think of my babysitters when I was a kid. My neighbor Debbie who had hair to her waist and made candles. I think of Hippies and Vietnam protest music.

I think of baby boomers as they are defined: those born after WWII up to ‘64. I don’t have any set perception for any boomer. Some fit the stereotype you’re describing, and some don’t.

I was born in 1990 so right in the middle of the millennial generation. Again, most of my pop likes are songs that came out when I was in college or in the few years after I graduated, clubbing in Boston.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Usher is more R&B than hip hop. R&B is one of many genres I enjoy.

Had you stated, "we are all different and have unique tastes" before proclaiming boomers' musical tastes were set in stone in the 60s and early 70s, we wouldn't have an issue.

I didn't say that about Boomers. I said most people gravitate towards that music from middle-school through college years. Same thing @Rocktheworld was saying. But it's a generalization and I think more about genre than particular songs or bands. My pre-Baby Boomer parents like more current pop than I do.

As for R&B, I like R&B, but by that I mean artists like James Brown, Ray Charles, Smokey Robinson, etc. If Usher is in that category I'll give it a try.

 

[Improviser]

I agree with "we are all different and have unique tastes."

I grew up with the 50's doo wop, then 60's stuff like the Beachboys. I listened then and listen now to that genre.

But, as the years went by, and because of trips to the Caribbean, and studying some Spanish in college, and going to a local coffee house with artists playing folk, contemporary rock, and bluegrass music, collectively I got to like different music such as soca, techno merengue, bluegrass, all types of Indie, boogie woogie, and even high-powered Balkan Gypsy folk rock.

Though, if there is a common denominator , most of the stuff I like is rock-based and fast-paced. I do like George Thorogood's rocking blues guitar. On Sirius, I listen to the 80's channel.

Trying to respect the music played at the intermissions of Super Bowl shows. I guess it is contemporary and popular so it makes sense to showcase it. To each their own.

I like what I like.

 

[Jay-Bone]

I'm hearing Tay-Tay paid off Greenlaw to fake an injury so that her bf could get some yards in the 2nd half.

Between that freak injury, the tipped extra point and the punt hitting the guy's foot, sucks to be a niners fan. Brutal.

As a non-football fan, funny game to watch. Would've been even better if kelce tackled Andy Reid.

That sequin suit though, lol.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Color me amazed you've even heard of Jello. That said, I can't fathom you ever listening to Dead Kennedys.

Were it not for my 45s being among the few remaining things still in CT, I'd post a picture of "California Uber Alles," including the lyric sheet. Alas, it is not the original issue with a later-omiited co-credit for the inner sleeve artwork.

"Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" was sold probably a dozen years ago to a Feldenkrais practitioner/musician I met at the Westport Library book sale, where he was buying vinyl to set up a records section in his partner's bookstore in South Philadelphia, which he described as having a burgeoning hipster Williamsburg vibe.

You've seriously never heard of Dwight Freeney, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers, or Patrick Willis ???

IKR?
I recognized that moment of the broadcast as my perfect moment to claim, "I have watched so little football for so many years that ai has no idea who any of the HoF Inductees were."

At roughly the same I started going to UConn basketball games with my dad, began collecting baseball cards, and spent Sunday afternoons watching Giant games while bathed in my father's second-hand cigar smoke.

I can remember the names of the classic 60s Giants players who seemed to always come up short against the Packers.

I collected AFL football cards to show some independence - Elbert Dubenian, Frank Tripuka, Gino Capilletti, Charlie Hennigan anybody? Did I misspell all of them? I rooted for Len Dawson and the Chiefs when they got beaten in Super Bowl I; took pleasure when Joe Namath beat the Colts 2 years later; and kept my eyes always on the Giants, even as I found better things to do with Sunday afternoons.

I semi-cherish my set of Super Bowl XXI high ball glasses, and loved seeing Phil Simms anchoring the left-hand side of the TV screen with the row of analysts, half of whom I recognized. I think it was Boomer on the right;I think of him as a 'younger' guy. I'm equally happy about Phil's second ring and Eli's pair too. But mostly, I'm just bragging ng about how ignorant I am. I know other stuff, and I'm okay with that. Did I already say that yesterday was the only start-to-finish game I watched all season? Ravens-Chiefs was on in the background at my granddaughter's 2nd birthday party. I saw Detroit build a strong lead, and later read that the 49ers were in the Super Bowl.

I've hosted Stupor Bore parties for friends who cared little about the games but brought good food and a critical eye to the commercials. I been to some great Conference Championship parties at my sister's house, and a few really nice gatherings with my good buddy and his Weston Volunteer Firefighter colleagues in their then new building.

That’s not true at all. All the pop stuff I am familiar with and like is what I heard in high school and college. My DJ for my wedding, credit to him, asked my fiancé and I when we graduated from high school to help with music selection; he said he goes 5 years prior and beyond said year. So basically what came out when someone was 13 to 23.

With no intention to make you wrong, I respectfully offer my thought that you've more confirmed than contradicted what @HuskyHawk wrote. You just expressed yourselves similarly with non-meaningful differences.

My 5± takes me from 66-76, which overlaps with my peak years for being able to spend largest-ever amounts of leisure time listening to music with my friends. That's the foundation of the DJ's thesis, a phenomenon noted elsewhere with some variations.

I could argue that I got a few bonus years at either end because I was 10 years old, and newly awakened after JFK's assassination when AM Top 40 singles radio got hit by the sea change wave of The Beatles and the British Invasion 60 years ago, and then after college I worked first in a music store and then for a (mostly jazz) record company when punk rock and other attempts to overthrow the bloat of corporatized entertainment product signaled the onset of a permanent subculture of independently-created, alternatively-marketed music in every genre that continues to this day, even if it has never held any economic dominance.

Plus, I've stayed interested in and open to lots of kinds of music, from many points in history, across my lifespan.

This weekend's total highlight was hearing a live performance of Mendelssohn's 4th Symphony ("The Italian") for the first ever, after loving it since the mid-70s. It was thrillingly performed by the Louisville Orchestra, as a free community-outreach concert in a brightly-lit gym on the largest KY St Vincent DePaul campus where free meals and veterans' housing and a food pantry and counseling and other social services are dispensed.

 

[storrsroars]

Were it not for my 45s being among the few remaining things still in CT, I'd post a picture of "California Uber Alles," including the lyric sheet. Alas, it is not the original issue with a later-omiited co-credit for the inner sleeve artwork.

"Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" was sold probably a dozen years ago to a Feldenkrais practitioner/musician I met at the Westport Library book sale

Consider my mind melted.

Funny thing about the DK's - I'd heard of them while they were still active but never really listened. Then I was fully indoctrinated to their catalog by an accountant, of all people.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I was fully indoctrinated to their catalog by an accountant, of all people.

Lmao that is hilarious

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I thought the first half blew, Usher was great, and Shanahan was Shanahan by not giving CMC 30 carries in the second half. Everyone on earth knew KC was winning this game when regulation ended. Mahomes is really incredible when the money's on the line.

I gotta be honest, it was pretty cool that my 13 year old watched the whole game. When KC scored in the third quarter and she stood up and started clapping she said she was being like me during UConn games.