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This is the most obvious case of a vendetta against one institution that I can ever remember in College sports. We were already penalized and then they changed the rules solely to screw The University of Connecticut. Happy that Governor Malloy spoke up, let's sick Blumenthal and any others on them, something needs to be done. Why is none of this being mentioned in the media, they don't even mention that 2 former disgruntled employees are the ones bending us over. I've had it, this is insane.
 

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This is the most obvious case of a vendetta against one institution that I can ever remember in College sports. We were already penalized and then they changed the rules solely to screw The University of Connecticut. Happy that Governor Malloy spoke up, let's sick Blumenthal and any others on them, something needs to be done. Why is none of this being mentioned in the media, they don't even mention that 2 former disgruntled employees are the ones bending us over. I've had it, this is insane.
Emmert and ???
 
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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know if we have a legal reason to file a lawsuit.
 
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Emmert and ???
Um, the athletic director we just fired who is now the chairman of the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Committee? Some guy named Hathaway.
 

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Um, the athletic director we just fired who is now the chairman of the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Committee? Some guy named Hathaway.

Hathaway has no direct input on this.

I am still trying to figure out why the UHart President stepped away from this. UHart is a private school.
 
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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know if we have a legal reason to file a lawsuit.
Then you're definitely not a lawyer.

1. You don't need a legal reason to file a lawsuit.
2. There's always a legal reason to file a lawsuit.

File it.

If need be, I'll re-up my bar number in CT and take care of it myself. And, intellectually, at least, I'm 6/5, 250.
 

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Poor BCU. We can't figure out how to win games not on ice.
 
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From another thread:

Danzz said: ↑
You pretty much covered it. BTW, Uconn would have little chance of winning a suit. My understanding (from the lawyers on the board) is that the NCAA is a private organization which Uconn chose to become a member and that private organizations get to make their own rules.
We didn't follow the rules (fair or unfair) and we will pay the penalty.Venting anger isn't going to change that and it is time we all accept the fact that we won't be in the tourney next year.It sucks but there is really nothing anybody can do about it.


PRHusky's response:

You are in part correct with your analysis. However, the NCAA is also a private entity with which UConn has a contractual relationship and the NCAA is breaching said contractual relationship by retroactively applying a new rule and by penalizing us twice for the same event. UConn definitely has grounds to file a lawsuit. Whether they choose to do so or not may depend on what they might feel the collateral damage from said suit would be. We definitely do not want the NCAA forever on our tails. That said, they should file the lawsuit. The problem with an injunction is that the ban may get delayed to 2014 and that would only make things worse. If the ban is gonna happen we need it to happen ASAP.
 
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Players, coaches and schools have filed lawsuits against the NCAA in the past, and won.
Not only that, but the NCAA is an illegal entity. The government allows them to exist the way they do. Bring congress into this, Arlen Specter style. The NFL can be held to the court system, and so can the NCAA. The MLB can be held to them as well, see all the steroid stuff in the last decade. And the MLB and NFL are much more powerful than the NCAA for the simple fact that they aren't a governing body over state (ie government owned) institutions.

And an appeal process can do no harm. They can't say, "Well UConn played in the 2013 tournament, but lost their appeal so now they can't play in 2014." Because they will almost certainly meet the APR requirements in 2014. The worst they could really do is say UConn was ineligible for that tournament and take their victories away. And honestly, if UConn miraculously won a championship in 2013 (2011 style with Boatright or Napier suddenly pulling a Kemba) and had it taken away in 2014 because Jonathan Mendeldove and a bunch of no-names from 2007-2009 didn't graduate. I couldn't care less. They will have won, and deserved to win, and everyone will know that they were the best team.
 
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I'm sorry, but I'm one who thinks that UConn should not sue the NCAA. Why drag this out any further? Unless UConn has an ironclad case against the NCAA (which I don't think is the case), then why sue them. Let this thing die. Accept the penalty. Whatever. We'll do more damage by having an amazing team next year. It'll make the media turn right around and say "why can't UConn be in when none of their current players attributed to the APR disaster?"

But otherwise, let this thing die. Maybe the NCAA is corrupt, but eventually they'll fall apart. This isn't the silver bullet that will destroy the NCAA. Accept our fate and move on. It's one year. Think about it, at least it isn't the USC football situation...
 
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I'm sorry, but I'm one who thinks that UConn should not sue the NCAA. Why drag this out any further? Unless UConn has an ironclad case against the NCAA (which I don't think is the case), then why sue them. Let this thing die. Accept the penalty. Whatever. We'll do more damage by having an amazing team next year. It'll make the media turn right around and say "why can't UConn be in when none of their current players attributed to the APR disaster?"

But otherwise, let this thing die. Maybe the NCAA is corrupt, but eventually they'll fall apart. This isn't the silver bullet that will destroy the NCAA. Accept our fate and move on. It's one year. Think about it, at least it isn't the USC football situation...
Because it's absolute bullshit? Why should we just accept something so ridiculous without fighting back?
 
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I'm sorry, but I'm one who thinks that UConn should not sue the NCAA. Why drag this out any further? Unless UConn has an ironclad case against the NCAA (which I don't think is the case), then why sue them. Let this thing die. Accept the penalty. Whatever. We'll do more damage by having an amazing team next year. It'll make the media turn right around and say "why can't UConn be in when none of their current players attributed to the APR disaster?"

But otherwise, let this thing die. Maybe the NCAA is corrupt, but eventually they'll fall apart. This isn't the silver bullet that will destroy the NCAA. Accept our fate and move on. It's one year. Think about it, at least it isn't the USC football situation...
Um, maybe because they actually do have a case?

Also, if you bring it to court, there's at least the chance the NCAA (which doesn't want its own transgressions out there for the public to see) decides to settle out of court and allows UConn to compete in the tourney. That's precisely what happened with UNLV/Jerry Tarkanian in the early 90s.
 
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I'm sorry, but I'm one who thinks that UConn should not sue the NCAA. Why drag this out any further? Unless UConn has an ironclad case against the NCAA (which I don't think is the case), then why sue them. Let this thing die. Accept the penalty. Whatever. We'll do more damage by having an amazing team next year. It'll make the media turn right around and say "why can't UConn be in when none of their current players attributed to the APR disaster?"

But otherwise, let this thing die. Maybe the NCAA is corrupt, but eventually they'll fall apart. This isn't the silver bullet that will destroy the NCAA. Accept our fate and move on. It's one year. Think about it, at least it isn't the USC football situation...
duckk the NCAA. duckk Emmert. Show the world what petty a*****es they are. Make the news, every day, with something to throw in their face. What are they going to do? Not let you play in the post season next year? duckk the Big East too. I just wish ALL the teams would boycott Big East tournaments next year.
 
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Because it's absolute bull****? Why should we just accept something so ridiculous without fighting back?

Because we've fought back and lost. Twice! If we keep trying to beat this dead horse, we're just going to look like lunatics. I'm not saying that I like it, but let's face it. The quicker this side show is over, the better.
 
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duckk the NCAA. duckk Emmert. Show the world what petty a*****es they are. Make the news, every day, with something to throw in their face. What are they going to do? Not let you play in the post season next year? duckk the Big East too. I just wish ALL the teams would boycott Big East tournaments next year.

Don't get me wrong...I feel the same way.
 
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Um, maybe because they actually do have a case?

Also, if you bring it to court, there's at least the chance the NCAA (which doesn't want its own transgressions out there for the public to see) decides to settle out of court and allows UConn to compete in the tourney. That's precisely what happened with UNLV/Jerry Tarkanian in the early 90s.

And if UConn loses, I can't imagine how much money this will cost them in court fees. I can't imagine how much the appeals process has already cost UConn. I also highly doubt that the NCAA wouldn't go to court, because this whole idea of having stuff to hide is just made up BS from fans. The NCAA has nothing to hide. Clearly and plainly, we can see that they are discriminatory and favor certain programs. Anyone can recognize that.

I'm not sure exactly what legal ground UConn has to stand on anyway. The facts are the facts. The NCAA implemented a rule. UConn does not pass with said rule. The NCAA is an organization and not a government entity, therefore, they can pretty much create these kinds of rules. There are probably parallels with other organizations other than the NCAA doing similar retroactive rules. And if UConn's legal ground is that "it isn't fair"...well, too bad. Life isn't fair sometimes.

Regardless of the whole lawsuit thing, this wouldn't have been an issue if UConn did a better job actually watching over the players' academic scores. Yeah, the transfers hurt and yaddi-yadda. But the matter of the fact is that some of those people stuck around here. Some of those people continuously fell through the cracks for years. And simply put, UConn dropped the ball. Or, quite simply, if UConn sees students like Dove, who will have problems academically, and probably won't contribute much on the court...don't accept them.

This whole thing sucks. It blows. I hate it. But damnit, I just want it to be over already. I'm moving on at this point and will look forward to the 2013 season, playoffs or no playoffs. They'll still be fun to watch.
 

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COunt me for a vote to sue.

There's an inherent unfairness to making up new rules and applying them retroactively. An incredibly bad precedent if nothing else.
 
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You have to sue. It is too big of a financial penalty to the university to let stand. It would be irresponsible and inappropriate to lie down on this. The punishment isn't fair and Emmert has a bone to pick with us. Most people have no idea how scummy this story, the recruiting violation witch hunt and the Boatright situation were. Expose them, it won't cost any more than we'll lose by being banned. The monetary losses from this will add up for years because of recruiting damage, wins/losses etc. This is a fraud against the state veiled as honorable governing by the NCAA.
 
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I'm not sure exactly what legal ground UConn has to stand on anyway. The facts are the facts. The NCAA implemented a rule. UConn does not pass with said rule. The NCAA is an organization and not a government entity, therefore, they can pretty much create these kinds of rules. There are probably parallels with other organizations other than the NCAA doing similar retroactive rules. And if UConn's legal ground is that "it isn't fair"...well, too bad. Life isn't fair sometimes.
True, the NCAA is a private organization, but that doesn't mean they're free to do whatever they want whenever they want.

There's about a bajillion laws in the United States, and considering the NCAA is under contract with every school, I would think UConn has some sort of case in civil court.
 
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And, intellectually, at least, I'm 6/5, 250.

So.....Don't all lawyers think so;)
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Generally like your posts Prez
Just sayin
Made me smile though
 
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