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Message: [QUOTE="UcMiami, post: 3887616, member: 199"] What they have is an historic bias - Massey and I think all other systems do not start a season with a blank slate. I have no idea what Massey uses, and how much history plays into the model, but at the start of every season the rankings are not based on the first game of that season only - otherwise those teams that are 1-0 would form the top half of the table and those at 0-1 would be at the bottom. By the end of the typical season I don't know how much previous years results are still baked into the model, maybe not at all, but I suspect there is still some inherent influence. This year with such limited OOC relevance is I am sure causing issues with the analytics. And an historic bias can be perceived and in fact be a conference bias in any competition where significant changes in personnel through graduation, transfer, and recruiting occur and those changes are not evenly distributed across conferences. The fact that Oregon for example still has a Massey rating as #8 with 8 losses, no meaningful OOC and they just lost 2 in a row to Massey #18 Oregon St. suggests maybe there is still some hangover from the 2020 powerhouse team in the data. [/QUOTE]