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Message: [QUOTE="Alydar, post: 3883314, member: 730"] Reductio ad absurdum? There's a wide gulf between that and "didn't look like a top ten team". And when did our opinions here ever really "matter"? I'm not trying to convince anyone, just expressing an opinion. I won't try to talk eye test about the PAC12 because I don't get the Network so I've seen maybe 2 or 3 games total. The UCLA game was my only look at UCLA. Most conferences have played in a cocoon among themselves and in the PAC12 they started their season with 4 of the top 10AP teams. I believe that the pre-season polls carry an inertia and no matter how bad you play you only sink slowly. My point is that we have little idea of how good these "pods" of conference teams are really until they start playing each other starting in the S16. The beauty of this is that the committee's own rules will force these interconference games and I'm expecting a lot of "upsets". [/QUOTE]