OT: St. Johns' entire recruiting class has decommitted

[nomar]

Fixed it for you

In a statement on social media, Gardner said he was still open to re-committing to St. John’s, but a source said the school was not planning on re-recruiting him.

I’ve got the darndest feeling he won’t be playing for Pitino next season.

 

[Waquoit]

Ha.... Remember the old "Louie Carnesecca is not well and may not be at SJU for too much longer" recruiting tractic???

And they were right! His only FF came when they ponied up for Walter Berry.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Pitino will be fine, but his age is being used against him in recruiting and the portal.

I’m under the impression that these guys have zero say in whether or not they’re playing at St. John’s next year. I don’t think Pitino is being victimized here.

 

[ctchamps]

Pitino will be fine, but his age is being used against him in recruiting and the portal.

If that billionaire makes the commitment he stated than $$$$$$$ >>>> Age!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Either Pitino turns St. John’s around overnight, or fails spectacularly. It will be fun to watch either way.

 

[amsterdamjade]

Were told to go elsewhere by who?

Pitino. He didn't recruit them. I'm sure his standards and what he is looking for differed vastly from the previous coaches.

 

[Hamms30]

Maybe he told them "I'm bringin my own luggage with me. And it's Louis"

 

[Kathy]

It's been around almost as long as you

So coaches dont matter, kids want to play for certain schools no matter who is coaching - not. That must be why transfers after a coaching change always got waivers.

 

[Kathy]

That's not the way I remember it. Ollie got fired. The kids committed to play for Ollie and he wasn't here any more so they decided to decommit.

But didn't @Waquoit just tell us there was a rule about kids commiting to a school not a coach?

 

[Greedo]

Pitino was interviewed during intermission of the Islanders game the other day. His age really is showing. He almost looks sickly. I’m surprised he decided to take this job and as was mentioned above, I’m sure coaches are using his age against him while recruiting.

 

[BGesus4]

It’s likely Pitino is successful at St. John’s but there’s still a non zero chance that he’s not able to attract very top talent. The methods he historically used to get an undue share of recruits are now allowed and done by everyone. He’s one of the best coaches ever, but he’s also old and operating in a very different landscape than when he experienced his big success.

 

[How Sway?!]

Pitino does not need to get a roster of 5* talent to be successful. He can get a roster of mid major all stars to be competitive in the big east.

 

[jibsey]

Pitino gets junkyard dogs who play defense. Armour up.

 

[B1GEast]

You can build through the transfer pool quicker than having to teach freshman how to play the game.

I'll give Pitino the benefit of the doubt. He'll have St Johns in a much better place by year two.

His hiring was good for the Big East

 

[BFieldHusky]

Their facilities are the worst in the conference. Again, he will have a very good roster. I just think people who think he is walking to a final 4...this is the best conference in basketball. He's a little behind the 8 ball.

 

[temery]

This is why I believe a school should offer a degree, not just an athletic scholarship. If a kid doesn't workout, or gets screwed by a coach leaving, they should still have the free ride to the school until graduation.

 

[MTBingNinja]

All three incoming recruits have decided to go elsewhere, according to the NY Post:

LINK TO NY POST ARTICLE

Either the players hate Patino or he’s bringing in a whole new cast of players

 

[superjohn]

Either the players hate Patino or he’s bringing in a whole new cast of players

Only player he wanted to keep is Soriano and he's keeping him.

 

[Woof 101]

Funny how this is OK now, when not too long ago the rule was you commit to a school not a coach.

You have to understand this is a Jesuit school, Rick may have done his homework and realized these players were not religious enough.

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

Their facilities are the worst in the conference. Again, he will have a very good roster. I just think people who think he is walking to a final 4...this is the best conference in basketball. He's a little behind the 8 ball.

I wonder if the $ guy made a couple promises there too. It would make sense that Rick negotiated something, or at least tried.

 

[F101Voodoo]

Pitino. He didn't recruit them. I'm sure his standards and what he is looking for differed vastly from the previous coaches.

At lest they have plenty of time to find a school.

 

[REB1094]

I would really enjoy a world where Pitino misses on all his transfer targets and is left with a roster of whatever 2 and 3 star recruits that he can convince weren't his Plan C

 

[CL82]

Pitino was interviewed during intermission of the Islanders game the other day. His age really is showing. He almost looks sickly. I’m surprised he decided to take this job and as was mentioned above, I’m sure coaches are using his age against him while recruiting.

He’s like what, 93? He looks fine.

 

[HuskyFich]

I would really enjoy a world where Pitino misses on all his transfer targets and is left with a roster of whatever 2 and 3 star recruits that he can convince weren't his Plan C

Sounds eerily familiar

 

[NJHoops]

Well this kind of stinks for Taliek. Pitino demoted him, after praising him all season. I know he was the newest and Pitino had to officially add his guy Masiello, but still…

 

[MDHuskFan]

Just came in here to post this. Hate that it happened, but Slick Rick has proven time & time again he can’t be trusted

 

[HuskyFich]

Well this kind of stinks for Taliek. Pitino demoted him, after praising him all season. I know he was the newest and Pitino had to officially add his guy Masiello, but still…

Well, maybe there’s a future AC spot available on a 5x national championship team?

No insider knowledge, just nice to know he now has experience in that role, even with Slick Rick quickly finishing…..him from that role.

 

[KingAG]

I think Pitino’s expected success at St John’s has been greatly exaggerated and may have been a bit premature

 

[metsfan2323]

I think Pitino’s expected success at St John’s has been greatly exaggerated and may have been a bit premature

LOL he has been there two weeks, are you already kicking dirt on his performance?

 

[Jbirdp5]

But didn't @Waquoit just tell us there was a rule about kids commiting to a school not a coach?

If a school wanted to make a kid stick to his letter of intent after a coach leaves they can, it’s legally binding. Most schools don’t do that tho. They have been much more lenient with current players getting waivers but his original point was factually accurate.