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Hi-Low said:
Pitino is done with this current team...he's out for revenge and on to the portal. Hide the UConn player phones & block calls from Pitino cell#

His team probably mostly didn't care about NIT either...would have been an early exit.
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I don't think anybody our team would consider jumping ship to Pitino after Nahiem's cautionary tale. He may have done us a favor in general making anyone on our team think twice about transferring anywhere.
 
HooperScooper said:
So stupid for Pitino to do this. He’s trying to build the program back up. Take the extra games and swallow your pride. Calhoun should tell them about 1988.
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It's not 1988 and St. Johns has already done that.
 
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You leave it up to your team. My guess is that the St. John's players didn't want to play in the NIT. What makes this tough is that Butler's Hinckle Fieldhouse is the host of the semis and finals so it's kind of a black eye to the Big East. If the NIT semis and finals were at MSG, I would think St. John's would be willing to play.

All that said, the portal opens tomorrow and there will be a lot of action for St. John's. It's kind of dumb for the portal to open tomorrow given we are in March Madness. The players are going to finish their semesters so why doesn't the portal open after the championship?
 
auror said:
A consolation tournament happening concurrently with free agency cannot exist. You have to dump the NIT or move the portal date. I lean towards the latter.
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This is it 100%. The portal date should be moved until after the NCAA tournament. You don't see the NFL and NBA have their big offseason signing of free agents when their playoffs start. How dumb would that be? Those 2 leagues know you have to keep the attention and media shine on the playoffs. The NCAA should follow suit.

If the NCAA keeps the portal opening a day after Selection Sunday, then accepting an NIT bid is just sacrificing getting an early start on the portal recruiting ahead of the teams in the NCAA tournament.
 
gsmooth said:
This is it 100%. The portal date should be moved until after the NCAA tournament. You don't see the NFL and NBA have their big offseason signing of free agents when their playoffs start. How dumb would that be? Those 2 leagues know you have to keep the attention and media shine on the playoffs. The NCAA should follow suit.

If the NCAA keeps the portal opening a day after Selection Sunday, then accepting an NIT bid is just sacrificing getting an early start on the portal recruiting ahead of the teams in the NCAA tournament.
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And your players don't want to play meaningless games, they want to start talking to other schools and their collectives and reps too.
 
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kobe said:
Kobe Bryant GIF


man up and play in the tournament coward
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What seed is Cincinnati?
 
UConnJim said:
You leave it up to your team. My guess is that the St. John's players didn't want to play in the NIT. What makes this tough is that Butler's Hinckle Fieldhouse is the host of the semis and finals so it's kind of a black eye to the Big East. If the NIT semis and finals were at MSG, I would think St. John's would be willing to play.

All that said, the portal opens tomorrow and there will be a lot of action for St. John's. It's kind of dumb for the portal to open tomorrow given we are in March Madness. The players are going to finish their semesters so why doesn't the portal open after the championship?
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I think this is correct. I always hate when analysts say "the other team wanted it more and that's why they won this postseason game or title game". It's such BS.
For the NIT however, you don't think about personnel match ups, strategic Xs and Os and styles of the team etc. The first thing to consider when trying to predict an NIT winner before any of the other factors is, who actually wants to be there in the NIT? You don't believe me? When teams from the Power 6 who had their bubble burst play meaningful home regular season games to sold out crowds with the crowds roaring are now playing in the NIT in front of only 25% of the capacity at best (a lot of cases it's even less) you can tell the motivation is not there. How? Watch if they even get into their defensive stances. Watch if they hustle back on defense or even offense for that matter.
 
slepers said:
I would think he asked for player’s opinion
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You would think so, but I doubt it. The seniors, I'll bet they want to keep playing regardless of the tournament. I don't think Pitino gives a redman ass about what his kids think. As others posted, he just wants to go portaling asap.

And as ninety-nine ^ just posted, the other BE teams are participating. Shame on Pitino.
 
kobe said:
2 seed in the vaunted right side bracket.

so many epic matchups actually in this first round.

the nit's demise was greatly exaggerated.
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Congratulations and condolences.
 
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Good for them.

Why bother you’re not building anything for next year where extra games might help you. Because coaches have no idea who is or is not coming back.

Wave the finger in the air to the whole thing.
 
Not surprised at all.

The NIT is the basketball version of non-playoff bowl games in football. They just don’t matter anymore.
 
As if the snubbed teams kids don’t show up in the 1st game anyways.

There’s a reason why North Texas is the defending champ, and it’s not because they’re the best.
 
JungleLobo said:
As if the snubbed teams kids don’t show up in the 1st game anyways.

There’s a reason why North Texas is the defending champ, and it’s not because they’re the best.
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exactly. read my post #43 above
 
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UConnJim said:
You leave it up to your team. My guess is that the St. John's players didn't want to play in the NIT. What makes this tough is that Butler's Hinckle Fieldhouse is the host of the semis and finals so it's kind of a black eye to the Big East. If the NIT semis and finals were at MSG, I would think St. John's would be willing to play.

All that said, the portal opens tomorrow and there will be a lot of action for St. John's. It's kind of dumb for the portal to open tomorrow given we are in March Madness. The players are going to finish their semesters so why doesn't the portal open after the championship?
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My guess is that Pitino didn't want to do that and told his players why they didn't want to do it.

You think these kids wouldn't want an opportunity to finish the 2024 season by winning at MSG? What senior wants his career to end?

I think this is portal-related. Pitino's got bigger fish to fry.

And, yeah, the fact that the portal opens now is downright ridiculous. What morons thought that was a good idea?
 
Hondo 77 said:
Sadly yes. The NIT died when the NCAA went from 32 to 64.
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Was it dead when UConn won the '88 NIT or when Rip and K-Free and Rickey and Jake went to the NIT Final 4 in 1997? Seemed pretty damn alive to me.

I appreciate things are different now, with the portal, but I find it incredible that schools want to end their seasons. As Crean said, in football, there are tons of guys sitting out. You don't want to play, then don't play. But you're going to tell me the guys who are out of eligibility want to end their season on a conference tournament loss? I haven't played competitive sports for a long time, but I just can't imagine ever wanting that.
 
Scoe said:
As opposed to what not playing? You have a chance to make a name for yourself at the start of an era with Pitino, you think Hurley turns down an NIT bid in 2020 and screws over Christian Vitale.
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The portal opens tomorrow
It’s insane that the portal is opening while games are still going on but you could conceivably go into the NIT with 1/2 your team.
Thats not a tournament it’s a joke .
If last years bowl season was a preview a tournament like the NIT could be a disaster
it’s not 1988 or even 2020 we’re in a brave new unknown world
The NCAA brought this on themselves It’s their responsibility to fix it.
 
kobe said:
Kobe Bryant GIF


man up and play in the tournament coward
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Well really, the NIT isn't what it once was. I could see why teams with some self-respect would choose not to play in what is an essence a participation trophy.

Oh wait, uh not Cinci Kobe.. um you guys had a .. um ... a season, I guess.
 
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