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The problems at SFC are bigger than sports expense. Great article. They fired the College president without announcing it publicly and axed the AD after giving her the inglorious task of releasing the announcement tweet.

 
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Take a look at their water polo roster (player hometowns), one of the only east coast schools to offer scholarships, gives you some insight into what was wrong with that program 2022 Men's Water Polo Roster - St. Francis Brooklyn Athletics
The Men's Soccer team was quite good and had an exciting 2022 season. Their roster is mainly international students too, but a lot of that is the NYC appeal. It's a draw for foreign players for sure to play at the pier with the Manhattan skyline, the Brooklyn Bridge and the Statue of Liberty righ there. Another problem is they used public fields and as a result, could not charge admission. Even if 200 people came to a soccer match and you could charge $10 per person, it's a couple thousand dollars to cover some expenses. They couldn't generate any sports revenue. That's on the school for not working on something with the city or bureau of Brooklyn.

 

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This should give you a huge indicator for who may be next: Rider, Jacksonville, and St. Peter’s.
The St. Peter's Women's Basketball Team went 0-30 this season. Ouch!
 
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This should give you a huge indicator for who may be next: Rider, Jacksonville, and St. Peter’s.
Thaks for the link. The top listing is dubious for financial health, which makes me wonder about the bottom list. I doubt Bard College is in trouble, and it likely never will be due to proximity to New York, but they got hit because of major administrative screwups which cratered their budget. That's far different than schools that are drowning.

Have a look at Pomona College in the best of list. That school has an incredible amount of money in its endowment per student. Far healthier than many ranked above it. And any list that doesn't have Harvard #1 is dubious. Just because you spend a lot of money per student, that shouldn't be held against you. And just because you spend very little per student, that doesn't make you efficient. You're always trading the future for the present.
 

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I think a well-constructed Associates Degree is sufficient for a solid career in many office jobs. Colleges are selling kids useless degrees, and some of the worst offenders are the more prestigious colleges.
Been saying this forever. The cost has skyrocketed unlike anything else. It's a broken model.
 
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There was a great interview with the men's basketball coach in one of the papers. He said he'd just convinced several key players to stay for their 5th years because hopes were high for next year, and then a couple days later without notice the administration abandons athletics. The players are now scrambling late to find new homes.

It seems that the root of the school's troubles is the deal to sell their old campus building falling through leaving them on the hook for both campuses simultaneously. Really crazy that they could allow that to happen. Sports are the fall guy for the administration's screw up.
 

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Been saying this forever. The cost has skyrocketed unlike anything else. It's a broken model.
I also see no issue in going to technical schools. College isn't for anyone and tbh, you can make a whole lot more in the technical field than you could with a degree in history from a 4 year college. We have a neighbor whose kid decided to go to EC Goodwin for HS instead of our town HS because he knew what field he wanted to get into and he struggled in some school areas. He's already had an apprenticeship lined up and he's only in HS. College used to be the next step after HS for everyone. It shouldn't be that way anymore and many kids are seeing that due to the insane cost.
 
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I also see no issue in going to technical schools. College isn't for anyone and tbh, you can make a whole lot more in the technical field than you could with a degree in history from a 4 year college. We have a neighbor whose kid decided to go to EC Goodwin for HS instead of our town HS because he knew what field he wanted to get into and he struggled in some school areas. He's already had an apprenticeship lined up and he's only in HS. College used to be the next step after HS for everyone. It shouldn't be that way anymore and many kids are seeing that due to the insane cost.
There is such a shortage of tool and die makers now due to retirement and the mistake of cutting trade school majors (Kaynor cut machining center training about 10 years ago, I think) that many command the same salaries as VPs at companies. Facts.
 

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