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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 3975408, member: 6819"] No. Today's pitchers want to increase their grip on the ball which induces better spin, and rosin isn't nearly as effective as these new substances. Now, the oldtime spitball pitchers wanted to decrease the spin so that the ball was more susceptible to air currents, somewhat like a knuckleball. A guy like Gerrit Cole literally increased his spin rate over night once he went to Houston, and that can't be done without cheating. In fact, an increase in spin rate was noted by every Houston pitcher, especially Justin Verlander, once they came to Houston. That team was cheating on so many levels it was ridiculous. [/QUOTE]