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Message: [QUOTE="KnightBridgeAZ, post: 3975061, member: 591"] Many, many great pitchers. Digging "way back" - Denton True Young aka Cyclone. Often mentioned with Johnson (Walter) from the early years. Christy Mathewson. Lefty Grove was a great one, as noted. But the list is so, so long, through the era of Whitey Ford and his contemporaries (which included Paige and Spahn). Then Gibson, Koufax, and on to Ryan and his contemporaries. I have argued for years - about all sports - that there are very few cases where you can state that someone is the GOAT of all time. Baseball managers, anyone??? Best hitter??? In a game that changed over the years and continues to change. I have said the same about Women's Basketball. And to show you what I mean - I'll make it simple - DT or Stewart? NBA - they discuss on PTI, I don't actually follow it, but Bill Russell or Magic - or Michael - or . . . It is never 100% clear. What you can do in any sport is come close to a "greatest of their era" and a short list of possible "GOAT"s. But, answering the question, impossible. [/QUOTE]