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Message: [QUOTE="Hamms30, post: 4767857, member: 7714"] Yea, but how many games did we win last year with Carter and Marion? Marion got hurt game 1 and we didn't see him until the end of the season and Carter went down against Michigan and that's the last time we saw him, I think, wasn't it? I haven't been following Cincinnati, but doesn't look like Turner is getting much run there. Mora needs to start punching back when a kid wants to enter the portal and put all 3 of these guys up as the poster board of what they have to look forward to when they transfer. Confidence and belief in yourself is great, but you're going somewhere that you've been recruited over and you're going to fight for your life for scraps. Carter is playing at Mich. State, but they're 2-5 and lost by 10 points less than we lost to Michigan to last year. "Do you want to find out if you're good enough to make the team at Michigan State or do you want to use your eligibility [I][B]playing[/B] [/I]college football?" [/QUOTE]