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Message: [QUOTE="fleaflicker, post: 4767438, member: 11706"] Certainly a difficult day for the "old guy", hoping for a turn around game. Being a Giants and Red Sox fan has given me my share of "agony of defeat", and some "thrill of victories". I had hoped, as a LONG time UC football fan, to see the program turn the corner and join the other successful athletic programs at the university. I tend to not blame coaches or athletes for losing, because in my heart, I think they go out there to give their best and try to WIN. So, I leave the reasons for what has gone wrong this season to you young guys. Nearing the end of the conveyor belt leaves me with little but HOPE. Hoping they can turn the battleship around SOON. Thanks for all your posts and for joining me in wishing for a W. [/QUOTE]