South Florida Has 11 Wins
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I think they need to win one more regular season game, or one game in the BET, depending on who they play.
Sub RPI-100 losses: 3 (ODU, Penn State, Auburn)
Top 50 RPI wins: 1 (v. Seton Hall)
v. Top 50: 1-7
v. Top 100: 4-8
12 of their wins are v. sub-100 ranked teams--and Pitt is ranked 98, so if they lose v. Louisville, and against any other teams, they may become two more sub-100 teams. That would make USF 2-8 v. Top 100.
Look, USF is no lock. Their conference record is meaningless.
A comparison:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/CT/SFL
Sub RPI-100 losses: 3 (ODU, Penn State, Auburn)
Top 50 RPI wins: 1 (v. Seton Hall)
v. Top 50: 1-7
v. Top 100: 4-8
12 of their wins are v. sub-100 ranked teams--and Pitt is ranked 98, so if they lose v. Louisville, and against any other teams, they may become two more sub-100 teams. That would make USF 2-8 v. Top 100.
Look, USF is no lock. Their conference record is meaningless.
A comparison:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/CT/SFL
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Alabama was 12-4 in the SEC last year and did not get in--AND, they beat Kentucky during the regular season.
USF is still on the bad side of the bubble. They need to beat UL, WVU, and if they lose in the first game of the BET, it better be to a good team.
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No doubt, the devil is in the details, but potential recruits won't know that. The BET will be telling. Yet its still a nice accomplishment for the newcomer. Unfortunately with the changes in the conference their schedule may not improve last year as it normally does for top league finishers.
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I'm happy for them. They've been a pretty terrible basketball team the entire time they've been in the BE, and yet overall they've been a good addition. I'm just not convinced they're NCAA worthy--nor, do I imagine, is the committee.
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With 9 of their 11 wins being against Depaul, PC, Pitt, Rutgers, St Johns and Nova they have more work to do.
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the selection committee loves the RPI and quality wins type of stuff. Much more so than a team's record
USF has a strong conference record, benefiting from playing a very weak conference schedule
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Well, at this point, it looks like they're going to get a double bye, so it will almost definitely be a good team they play first.
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USF helped themsleves.
A win over WVU and they are 3-1 against the middle off the pack losing only to UConn beating Cincy, WVU and Seton Hall.
Cincy, Seton Hall, USF, UConn, and WVU are in and out on any given day.
The commitee will have a hard time saying a team with an RPI under 50, 20 wins, and a winning conference record is not in. USF's biggest sin -- winning the games they were supposed to and nothing more.
Georgetown has ND and @Marquette left. USF could snake them by going 1-1 losing to LU and beating WVU.
Season's not over. UConn needs to beat PC and Pitt and the BE opener. No reason to give the slugs a reason to send UConn packing
A win over WVU and they are 3-1 against the middle off the pack losing only to UConn beating Cincy, WVU and Seton Hall.
Cincy, Seton Hall, USF, UConn, and WVU are in and out on any given day.
The commitee will have a hard time saying a team with an RPI under 50, 20 wins, and a winning conference record is not in. USF's biggest sin -- winning the games they were supposed to and nothing more.
Georgetown has ND and @Marquette left. USF could snake them by going 1-1 losing to LU and beating WVU.
Season's not over. UConn needs to beat PC and Pitt and the BE opener. No reason to give the slugs a reason to send UConn packing
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No they are not. Some people have no clue on the tournament selection. Conference record isn't even considered.
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A 10-6 Syracuse team didn't make in a couple years ago.
It happens. Especially when your games against the top of the conference are blowouts.
It happens. Especially when your games against the top of the conference are blowouts.
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Cincinnati could have played their way into the dance with a win over USF. I don't think USF did though. They just don't have any good wins after Seton Hall.
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USF has a shot. I just think they're, right now, out. Cincy is not an RPI top 50 team--they're bubble chances aren't looking very good.
I think the BE ends up with:
Syracuse -1 seed
Marquette - 3 seed
Georgetown - 3 seed
Louisville - 5 seed
Notre Dame - 6 seed
Connecticut - 8-11 seed
Seton Hall - 9-12 seed
Cincy - 10-11 seed
If USF wins out, they'll get in as a 10.
West Virginia, I think, can more or less eliminate USF if they beat them, but they're out without beating Depaul, USF, and 1 BET game. They may be play-in game.
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If they beat West Virginia or Louisville they are in for sure but until then they are on the bubble on the outside right now looking in. I am impressed with that team and have been impressed since we played them. The key to their success has been their outstanding point guard Anthony Collins who has been the most important reason for their success. The good thing for us it gives our team a quality win that we didn't expect. We just need to win out and end all discussions which I believe we will because we are hitting our stride as a team, the rotation and starting lineup is finally coming together as I had envisioned.
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USF has 5 Top 100 wins:
Seton Hall 44
Cleveland State 78
Cincinnati 77
Pitt x2 97
Pitt may still drop out of the Top 100.
Every other bubble team has more quality wins and better "signature" wins. Schools like Mississippi State and Cincinnati have better resumes despite much worse RPI's because they have so many quality wins. USF has a win over another bubble team.
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2012/schedule/South-Florida
Seton Hall 44
Cleveland State 78
Cincinnati 77
Pitt x2 97
Pitt may still drop out of the Top 100.
Every other bubble team has more quality wins and better "signature" wins. Schools like Mississippi State and Cincinnati have better resumes despite much worse RPI's because they have so many quality wins. USF has a win over another bubble team.
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2012/schedule/South-Florida
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