South Carolina (5) vs Indiana (17) - 11/28/19

[Bayloralum]

UCONN is far from a lock too, theyve looked pretty mediocre in a few games so far. It is early but no one besides Oregon looks like a high level team right now. Lots of season to be played

If Baylor wins all the games this weekend without Lauren cox we are a pretty damn good lock too! Once Lauren cox comes back watch out

 

[eebmg]

These tropical tournaments are filled with mediocre play. I think for a lot of players it's as if they get off the plane, see the palm trees and ocean and forget they are there to play basketball.

Do these tournaments attract enough fans? I know the UConn fans travel well but what other fanbases do? I guess the mix of winter Vacay+basketball is a pretty good draw?

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Pretty simple.

Cupcake = every team MSU has played this year so far except Marquette. Plus all the teams similar to those. Including the bottom 30% of the SEC.

Now do the difference between cupcake and top 20 team on neutral floor.

That's where it gets confusing.

 

[Jmsdawg]

UCONN is far from a lock too, theyve looked pretty mediocre in a few games so far. It is early but no one besides Oregon looks like a high level team right now. Lots of season to be played

I agree, guess my bias is showing, at least I control it enough so I do not have MSST as a lock!

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Prob Drake.

I guess.

 

[DaBball]

Her five fouls for those who could not watch:

IMO, the fourth foul was the most questionable of the five. I guess there was a little body and forearm, but not enough IMO, but I guess it was being called close-ish.

Terri Moren made it a priority to attack Boston from the outside every time, whether it be her man driving, a ball screen, etc. Gulbe blew by Boston late because she couldn't foul and got a wide open layup.

 

[IWearShoes]

Pretty simple.

Cupcake = every team MSU has played this year so far except Marquette. Plus all the teams similar to those. Including the bottom 30% of the SEC.

I don't know if your being completely serious here, but that means that basically any team outside the Massey Top 100 or so is a cupcake based on Mizzou being 95 right now and at the top of the "bottom 30% of the SEC".

Just so we're clear on a cupcake.

 

[bennyskid]

It looks like coach put Boston in defensive positions that she wasn't ready for. When you put a freshman big that far on the perimeter, you are just begging the opponent to let quicker players drive by her. At her age and stage, she's either going to stick a hand or elbow in there or give her a bump with the hip. Based on the 1:12 of this game I just saw, I'd say Staley deserves the loss - this was not a good game plan.

 

[DefenseBB]

UCONN is far from a lock too, theyve looked pretty mediocre in a few games so far. It is early but no one besides Oregon looks like a high level team right now. Lots of season to be played

Wait what? Ok let’s say I agree with your statement about UConn, then the same AND more could be said about every other team including Oregon who struggled with Syracuse. I have now seen all teams but Louisville and MSU play and many multiple times, I am far more comfortable with UConn being a lock over as much as anyone including Oregon. The good news is UConn plays Oregon so we shall see a direct comparison. Not sure who your team is so I am not sure what bias you have (and we all have bias so...)
Stanford has left me underwhelmed in all 3 games I have seen. Baylor I have seen 3 times and plays Louisville tomorrow so we can see how they will look against a top team (they struggled with USF at home) and if they can shoot from the outside (not thinking they can).
There is more parity due to better talent available than even 5 years ago that is now spread around. Whereas the top 20 women were so clearly above the 21-100 women it made for wide team disparity when playing. Now the gap has closed considerably so more teams have more talent that can compete. It’s not like the men’s game yet but is closing the gap.

 

[bballnut90]

Wait what? Ok let’s say I agree with your statement about UConn, then the same AND more could be said about every other team including Oregon who struggled with Syracuse. I have now seen all teams but Louisville and MSU play and many multiple times, I am far more comfortable with UConn being a lock over as much as anyone including Oregon. The good news is UConn plays Oregon so we shall see a direct comparison. Not sure who your team is so I am not sure what bias you have (and we all have bias so...)
Stanford has left me underwhelmed in all 3 games I have seen. Baylor I have seen 3 times and plays Louisville tomorrow so we can see how they will look against a top team (they struggled with USF at home) and if they can shoot from the outside (not thinking they can).
There is more parity due to better talent available than even 5 years ago that is now spread around. Whereas the top 20 women were so clearly above the 21-100 women it made for wide team disparity when playing. Now the gap has closed considerably so more teams have more talent that can compete. It’s not like the men’s game yet but is closing the gap.

UCONN struggled against unranked Ohio State, Vanderbilt and Cal. Havent faced a ranked team yet. Not sure how you can put them above Oregon who has beat Team USA and #17 Syracuse on the road by 17 points. Sure, Cuse was in it in the first half but were down by double digits the entire 4th and never truly threatened Oregon.

 

[bballnut90]

Herbert-Harrigan is so immature.

What happened?

 

[TheGOAT23]

Her five fouls for those who could not watch:

IMO, the fourth foul was the most questionable of the five. I guess there was a little body and forearm, but not enough IMO, but I guess it was being called close-ish.

Terri Moren made it a priority to attack Boston from the outside every time, whether it be her man driving, a ball screen, etc. Gulbe blew by Boston late because she couldn't foul and got a wide open layup.

I agree. The fourth foul does look questionable from that view. However, the ref who made the call had a birds eye view of the play. He must have seen something that I couldn’t see. It would have been weird, if a ref on the other side of the floor made that call, which I have seen more of this year whether it has been a college or professional game.

I’ve seen Indiana play this year. Grace Berger has a motor on her and so does Patberg. Patberg does a good job of running the team.

 

[Plebe]

IMO, the fourth foul was the most questionable of the five. I guess there was a little body and forearm, but not enough IMO, but I guess it was being called close-ish.

Terri Moren made it a priority to attack Boston from the outside every time, whether it be her man driving, a ball screen, etc. Gulbe blew by Boston late because she couldn't foul and got a wide open layup.

I'm sorry, but those are all fouls. You can't put two hands on the dribbler as she's driving around you.

 

[militarydog]

UCONN struggled against unranked Ohio State, Vanderbilt and Cal. Havent faced a ranked team yet. Not sure how you can put them above Oregon who has beat Team USA and #17 Syracuse on the road by 17 points. Sure, Cuse was in it in the first half but were down by double digits the entire 4th and never truly threatened Oregon.

I’ll be interested to see the Boneyard Poll this Monday. Besides Oregon I don’t see a team I’d call a true sure bet right now. Obviously there will be some adjustments in the next poll. However if some of the one loss teams should drop it is going to be difficult to determine who deserves to be ahead of them. For example I never expected South Carolina to go undefeated, especially depending on so many freshmen. However at this point I’m having a hard time making too much of an adjustment to my ranking for them.

 

[DaBball]

I agree. The fourth foul does look questionable from that view. However, the ref who made the call had a birds eye view of the play. He must have seen something that I couldn’t see. It would have been weird, if a ref on the other side of the floor made that call, which I have seen more of this year whether it has been a college or professional game.

I’ve seen Indiana play this year. Grace Berger has a motor on her and so does Patberg. Patberg does a good job of running the team.

Yeah, not a great camera view of the fourth, but the ref was right there.

Berger was impressive. Shot wasn't falling at all times, but she could create, even being defended by a larger, stronger Beal, but she is very quick, and has the ball on a string. Patberg is very solid. In the battle of Indiana PGs, Patberg was better than Harris.

They'll lose Wise, but Patterson will step right in.

 

[j66kicker]

Do these tournaments attract enough fans? I know the UConn fans travel well but what other fanbases do? I guess the mix of winter Vacay+basketball is a pretty good draw?

They play in small gyms. I suspect if the game tickets and sponsors (local chamber of commerce?) cover the minimal operating costs, then booking a couple hundred hotel rooms is a win for the local hospitality/tourist industry.

 

[WNBA 09]

I agree. The fourth foul does look questionable from that view. However, the ref who made the call had a birds eye view of the play. He must have seen something that I couldn’t see. It would have been weird, if a ref on the other side of the floor made that call, which I have seen more of this year whether it has been a college or professional game.

I’ve seen Indiana play this year. Grace Berger has a motor on her and so does Patberg. Patberg does a good job of running the team.

Softest 5 fouls ive ever seen . Maybe 2 or 3 were legit

 

[LoTrader]

Just watched the South Carolina vs. Indiana game on FloHoops. Indiana reminds me a lot of Gonzaga. Play very well as a team, solid rebounders, great spacing, and have some decent shooters. It was experience playing as a team (solid athletes) vs inexperienced team (great athletes). South Carolina has some really talented freshman. HH is really a headcase. Every loose ball she wrestled for with an Indiana player seemed like it was going to end in a shoving match. Not much of a senior leader.

 

[SCGamecock]

Her five fouls for those who could not watch:

IMO, the fourth foul was the most questionable of the five. I guess there was a little body and forearm, but not enough IMO, but I guess it was being called close-ish.

Terri Moren made it a priority to attack Boston from the outside every time, whether it be her man driving, a ball screen, etc. Gulbe blew by Boston late because she couldn't foul and got a wide open layup.

Boston was definitely being targeted IMO. Maybe two (emphasis on the maybe) of those fouls are called in SEC/ACC play. Game was called very tight.

 

[SCGamecock]

Softest 5 fouls ive ever seen . Maybe 2 or 3 were legit

In the very first "foul" I'm more offended by the flop than the actual foul.. Boston probably grazed her arm (a foul rightfully so) but what happened after was way overboard.

I'm still salty, so I'll be rooting for Baylor to crush Indiana into oblivion tonight.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Boston was definitely being targeted IMO. Maybe two (emphasis on the maybe) of those fouls are called in SEC/ACC play. Game was called very tight.

I'll just say that if none of those foul calls had been made, no one would have blinked an eye.

The one foul that they had close footage of was a reach in foul by definition though you often see something like that let go.

 

[SimpleDawg]

I don't know if your being completely serious here, but that means that basically any team outside the Massey Top 100 or so is a cupcake based on Mizzou being 95 right now and at the top of the "bottom 30% of the SEC".

Just so we're clear on a cupcake.

I'm guessing the cutoff point is either 100 or 132. 133 being where UT Martin ranks (the highest ranked cupcake we've played).

If the cutoff is 100........ Florida, Ole Miss, and Auburn would be cupcakes. Hmmm.....