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Farney said:
To me Anigwe has been the best start to finish. There are nights she has put Cal on her back. Shepard has been solid too. I also think Sophie Cunningham at Missouri has had a very good year. I'm obviously a UConn homer but if you look at complete body of work Lou doesn't win the award. But if you asked me where my chips would be in 3 years I'd have them all on Lou.
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Cunningham should not be in the running.. She has been very inconsistent, especially against the better teams.
 
UcMiami said:
He actually sort of implied that was all that KML did as a freshman and it wasn't enough, so you have to do more. I'm correcting you, because it was more a motivational statement than a dig at Lou - he almost implied that she was doing more than just making threes at a good percentage at this point and she needed to continue to focus on that. or that was my impression from listening to him.
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I read it, so I obviously didn't pick up Geno's tone. One interpretation was that KLS should not be satisfied, because we already had a player who made 5 threes in a game (several times). Another was that she needs to do more than just hit threes. In either case, I didn't think it was a dig, but saw it as motivational. Just as Geno used to say he wouldn't let Diana cheat her talent, he's going to demand a lot out of Lou, because he thinks she can produce. I'm sure that for the next 3 years, he'll be saying, "Stewie did this and Stewie did that" to Lou. He thinks that Lou can be almost as good as Stewie. I think her shot is better. Let's see what her inside game becomes. Stewie's post-ups tonight were textbook. Lou, despite being slightly shorter and having a smaller wingspan, can do the same type of thing. Basically, Geno wants Lou to be able to do everything, because she has that type of potential.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Just as Geno used to say he wouldn't let Diana cheat her talent, he's going to demand a lot out of Lou, because he thinks she can produce. I'm sure that for the next 3 years, he'll be saying, "Stewie did this and Stewie did that" to Lou. He thinks that Lou can be almost as good as Stewie.
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Why some (including Lou) come to UConn; why others wouldn't dream of coming.
 
First let me say how completely wrong I was for criticizing KLS for getting a technical fouled in the ECU game. I now see the bigger picture. KLS is determined to prove that she can mix it up, be chippy & grimey when necessary and still be spectacular. I love it.
 
CocoHusky said:
First let me say how completely wrong I was for criticizing KLS for getting a technical fouled in the ECU game. I now see the bigger picture. KLS is determined to prove that she can mix it up, be chippy & grimey when necessary and still be spectacular. I love it.
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As the posts above suggest about her high school "flopping", I'm sure that Lou has a chip on her shoulder about being a "soft" California player--everything handed to her: father her coach; 2 older sisters to play against; height and looks, etc. But it's not what you're born with or into; it's what you do with it. And to Lou's great credit, she's taken that challenge.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the same sort of discussion next year about Napheesa!
 
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Kaizen said:
Katie Lou should be FOY 2016
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Afraid not. Jessica Shepard will the national FOY award. It won't even be close.
KLS may also not win AAC FOY award Kitija Laksa of South florida has significantly better numbers.
 
CocoHusky said:
First let me say how completely wrong I was for criticizing KLS for getting a technical fouled in the ECU game. I now see the bigger picture. KLS is determined to prove that she can mix it up, be chippy & grimey when necessary and still be spectacular. I love it.
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I thought that was Butler that got T'd up?
 
Farney said:
To me Anigwe has been the best start to finish. There are nights she has put Cal on her back. Shepard has been solid too. I also think Sophie Cunningham at Missouri has had a very good year. I'm obviously a UConn homer but if you look at complete body of work Lou doesn't win the award. But if you asked me where my chips would be in 3 years I'd have them all on Lou.
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I've only seen Anigwe play once, but it's pretty obvious she's been Cal's go-to person all year, as has Shepard at Nebraska.
Two frosh centers I've seen a few times who have performed well and will get better are Michigan's Hallie Thome (14.6 per game)
and BC's Mariella Fasoula (14.0 ppg), who played well against Notre Dame the first time around (they play again on Saturday).

Michigan also has a frosh point guard, Boogie Brozoski, who will get better with time.

The beauty of KLS is she didn't need to shoulder "the weight"when she first came on, but is now making major contributions. Besides her shooting, I love her wherewithal and passing ability. She runs the floor well and seems to know when and where to make the pass.

Of course, I'm pretty happy with the contributions of our Irish frosh, Arike Ogunbowale (11.9 ppg) and Marina Mabrey (11.4 ppg) or Mabrey2. They were expected to contribute but have probably surpassed expectations, in part because of circumstances, and, in part, because they're going for it. Arike has been strong all of conference play and Mabrey2 -- after a lull -- came on strong against FSU, which we hope will keep going into the ACC playoffs.

Good class to follow the next few years. And to think Collier will get more minutes as a sophomore and ND will have Ali Patberg (knock on wood) coming back strong from her knee injury.
 
bags27 said:
I think the first "wow" with her was how quickly she caught on playing defense. She went from clueless to being a monster.
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I totally agree. She had a monster game last night. It was impressive to see her follow up her 19 point effort against ECU with an even more impressive 21 point game. That showed the staff that she can be consistent.

Can you imagine how much better she's going to be by the time she's a junior?. OMG! :eek:
She was deemed one of the nation's best players in girl's High school basketball last year because of her scoring prowess.

When formal practice began in October, she realized that parts of her game needed to be refined, and brought up to college standards. The coaches emphasized that she was going to have to do more than just score, especial on defense.

Lou has made that adjustment, and has turned the corner on becoming a complete player........on both ends of the court. Don't be surprised if she is asked to assume the role that Stewart now has. She's long, lean and mobile.
Suffice it to say that we now have our 3 point sniper that will be ready to go when the NCAA tournament begins next month.

Remember during the summer when we were all trying to speculate who would take KML's place in the starting line up?

How many of you tabbed Lou to become the 5th starter? To those of you that had the foresight
of seeing Lou as the eventual replacement, a tip o the turban to you. :D
 
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Carnac said:
How many of you tabbed Lou to become the 5th starter? To those of you that had the foresight
of seeing Lou as the eventual replacement, a tip o the turban to you. :D
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11.
 
MilfordHusky said:
The Cornhusker kid is probably the leader.
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Kristine Enigwe is scoring 20 ppg, and taking down 9 rebounds. If you saw any of the USA U-17 (?) games, you got an eye-full of the best new players this year and next. Joyner Holmes was a beast. I think she outplayed Cos. Asia Durr and Ogunbowale were both incredible. Chou, not so much.

I think that the best freshmen have been Enigwe, Marina Mabrey (she was awesome against UConn), Durr, Ogunbowale, and then KLS. Mbar's and KLS's numbers are comparable, and both for top teams. Cal has relied on Enigwe for more minutes and more output on a weak team.
 
Kaizen said:
UConn beat Nebraska 88-46, 11/28/2015, KLS 14 pts, 0 TO, Sheppard 10 pts, 5 TOs
CAl 12-15 may not even be in the NCAA tournament.
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A comparison using one game even head to head or common opponent can paint a very skewed picture.
Examples:
1) Nebraska against Ohio State Shappard=20 points
2) UCONN against Ohio State KLS=2 Points
3) Nebraska vs Cal Kristine Anigwe= 29 points & Jessica Sheppard= 6 Points .
 
I Love Lou C. Everyone above seems suitably excited by the progress she has made, but there's even MORE. Geno has said that KLS has all of Bre's tools (not her ability yet). He should know. While dropping those 3's is money, Lou's assists are a wonder to behold; she was a great passer almost from the get-go. Next year I believe she'll slide into the middle more, much as Stewart did in her second go round. AND she's begun to obstruct, deflect, and block opponent's shots. Sorry she got her dimples dented last night but love how she checked her teeth and shrugged it off. California Dreamin.
 
I Love Lou C. Everyone above seems suitably excited by the progress she has made, but there's even MORE. Geno has said that KLS has all of Bre's tools (not her ability yet). He should know. While dropping those 3's is money, Lou's assists are a wonder to behold; she was a great passer almost from the get-go. Next year I believe she'll slide into the middle more, much as Stewart did in her second go round. AND she's begun to obstruct, deflect, and block opponent's shots. Sorry she got her dimples dented last night but love how she checked her teeth and shrugged it off. California Dreamin.
 
I Love Lou C. Everyone above seems suitably excited by the progress she has made, but there's even MORE. Geno has said that KLS has all of Bre's tools (not her ability yet). He should know. While dropping those 3's is money, Lou's assists are a wonder to behold; she was a great passer almost from the get-go. Next year I believe she'll slide into the middle more, much as Stewart did in her second go round. AND she's begun to obstruct, deflect, and block opponent's shots. Sorry she got her dimples dented last night but love how she checked her teeth and shrugged it off. California Dreamin.
 
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The amazing thing about Lou for me is that watching her playing US basketball she looked like a horrid defender who could not guard a chair and look at her now! She plays smart defense, takes charges, stops players with her jaw :), using her length well...impressive! and it shows you how hard this kid is willing to work on her game. The future is bright!
 
huskyd said:
I Love Lou C. Everyone above seems suitably excited by the progress she has made, but there's even MORE. Geno has said that KLS has all of Bre's tools (not her ability yet). He should know. While dropping those 3's is money, Lou's assists are a wonder to behold; she was a great passer almost from the get-go. Next year I believe she'll slide into the middle more, much as Stewart did in her second go round. AND she's begun to obstruct, deflect, and block opponent's shots. Sorry she got her dimples dented last night but love how she checked her teeth and shrugged it off. California Dreamin.
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In 27 games KLS has a grand total of 4 block shots. Can you see why this would be a bad idea?
 
KLS has been a bit of a surprise. I thought she would be a great long-distance shooter. But it took her a while to find her shot - even when she was left open. I thought she would be soft (I mean the girl wears mascara to a BB game!). But she surprised me with her toughness. It has been great to watch her start to put it all together.
 
CocoHusky said:
In 27 games KLS has a grand total of 4 block shots. Can you see why this would be a bad idea?
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Valid point. But while we can't dispute what Lou has done so far, we also can't assume that she won't be able to do more going forward. Bre as a freshman was not who she is today. From Geno's comparison of KLS's skill set to Brianna's, I think it's reasonable that his expectations will follow. You're right about the physical abuse; I've written about that often, but it seems that Stewart has adjusted w/out a debilitating injury (thank God). Gabby became a front court player out of necessity. It may not be ideal to use Lou inside, but w/out a Wilson or a Cox it may be what happens. Let's wait until next year. I do appreciate and share your confidence in Kayla.
 
Anyone else notice the difference in play since the Cinci game? Seems to me the experiment was a success! Lou has taken a more active role on the court as has Collier and to some degree Butler. They aren't being quite so deferential to their older teammates and are asserting themselves more.

(This coaching staff actually might know what they are doing! :rolleyes:)
 
huskyd said:
Valid point. But while we can't dispute what Lou has done so far, we also can't assume that she won't be able to do more going forward. Bre as a freshman was not who she is today. From Geno's comparison of KLS's skill set to Brianna's, I think it's reasonable that his expectations will follow. You're right about the physical abuse; I've written about that often, but it seems that Stewart has adjusted w/out a debilitating injury (thank God). Gabby became a front court player out of necessity. It may not be ideal to use Lou inside, but w/out a Wilson or a Cox it may be what happens. Let's wait until next year. I do appreciate and share your confidence in Kayla.
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KLS sees herself as a wing/guard, and plays that way. Effective post play is a mindset as well. Yes, she is hard nosed and yes as her game develops she will learn to use her height and arm length inside to her advantage. And yes as time goes on she will be more effective offensively down low. Unless she's caught in a switch her strength is not defending post players because her body type puts her at a disadvantage. As it stands now she's a nightmare for the 2's and 3's she covers. Let's keep it that way. Geno by the way has often compared her to Abrosimova, not Stewie.
 
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Geno over 2 months ago: "If we are going to win a national championship this year Katie Lou is going to have a lot to do with it."
 
I know I mentioned this in the past. Geno was at a game that KLS played for Mater Dei. I am pretty sure it was her sophomore year. She was knocked down by an elbow or an arm bar to the back. Nobody helped her up. In about the next minute she scored 3 times, the first two were drives to the basket(over the player who knocked her down) and the third was a 3 pointer, to dot the exclamation point. I think then, Geno knew she was tough.

As for Anigwe, a freshman who plays for Cal she has a stat that is a very unique and poor number, IMO. How does a post or PF have 93 turnovers. She gets the ball under or near the basket, a high percentage shot. So how can you turn the ball over so much? She only has 18 assists, so she isnt passing the ball to a teammate either. I think she has potential to do more but not sure how she is turning the ball over so much. By the way, Lou has 35 turnovers.
 
ochoopsfan said:
I know I mentioned this in the past. Geno was at a game that KLS played for Mater Dei. I am pretty sure it was her sophomore year. She was knocked down by an elbow or an arm bar to the back. Nobody helped her up. In about the next minute she scored 3 times, the first two were drives to the basket(over the player who knocked her down) and the third was a 3 pointer, to dot the exclamation point. I think then, Geno knew she was tough.

As for Anigwe, a freshman who plays for Cal she has a stat that is a very unique and poor number, IMO. How does a post or PF have 93 turnovers. She gets the ball under or near the basket, a high percentage shot. So how can you turn the ball over so much? She only has 18 assists, so she isnt passing the ball to a teammate either. I think she has potential to do more but not sure how she is turning the ball over so much. By the way, Lou has 35 turnovers.
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Just a note on the post turnovers, especially when a post is the best scoring option on a team - it is quite usual for them to have a lot of turnovers - they are frequently being double teamed, and will have guards reaching in all the time. I suspect she also gets quite a few offensive fouls called which are recorded as turnovers. Tina for example had 87 TOs and only 63 assists as a senior on a very well balanced team.
 
Chiney Ogwumike has stated that Anigwe has moves in her freshman year that she didn't develop for a few years. That plus seeing Anigwe play gives her my vote. I HIGHLY recommend people stay up late and watch a Cal game. The rest of the team has been one disappointment after another, and she as a freshman is carrying the team on her back. NOT having time to improve her skills and be mentored by the best player in WCBB. KLS may be all around better than Anigwe in 1-2 years given the superb coaching + potential, but this year Anigwe has meant everything to her team.
 
JordyG said:
KLS sees herself as a wing/guard, and plays that way. Effective post play is a mindset as well. Yes, she is hard nosed and yes as her game develops she will learn to use her height and arm length inside to her advantage. And yes as time goes on she will be more effective offensively down low. Unless she's caught in a switch her strength is not defending post players because her body type puts her at a disadvantage. As it stands now she's a nightmare for the 2's and 3's she covers. Let's keep it that way. Geno by the way has often compared her to Abrosimova, not Stewie.
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In an ideal world, Jordy, putting Lou inside might be a bad idea. I'm not advocating it (as if my opinion mattered). Using Bre inside wasn't that pleasant to watch, given the pummeling she got; same issue as KLS (wrong body type). Geno spoke often of "freeing Stewart up" by getting her some help in the post. But as "necessity is the mother of invention," Bre wound up doing what the team needed. The fact that she is so darned good at it, is a bonus. Let's keep it that way? Obviously Geno will figure it out. We're just having fun speculating and flapping our lowers . . . ;)
 
huskyd said:
In an ideal world, Jordy, putting Lou inside might be a bad idea. I'm not advocating it (as if my opinion mattered). Using Bre inside wasn't that pleasant to watch, given the pummeling she got; same issue as KLS (wrong body type). Geno spoke often of "freeing Stewart up" by getting her some help in the post. But as "necessity is the mother of invention," Bre wound up doing what the team needed. The fact that she is so darned good at it, is a bonus. Let's keep it that way? Obviously Geno will figure it out. We're just having fun speculating and flapping our lowers . . . ;)
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I agree. But freeing up Stewie can also entail hitting shots on the perimeter which Geno has stated many times. This prevents teams clogging the lane allowing Stewie to post isolate and/or get easier post entries which in turn allows open perimeter shots.
 
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