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I didn't see the game, but how can a guy as big and athletic as Drummond end up with exactly ONE rebound?
It wasn't as if there were no chances; WVU shot a robust 28 percent.
 
ESPN box score has him with 4.. but point taken. They got owned on the glass today no doubt.
 
Once Kilicli fouled out we began to clean the boards better. ESPN has AD with 4, btw.
 
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Yeah, too bad we won! WVU owned us (intended sarcasm). Forget the fact that UConn held them to 34.5% shooting and 15.8% from threes. Also forget the fact that Jabari Hinds played like the freshman he is, and SN had his way, Lamb hit a clutch three and we move on. It's a garden party.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
You don't need experience to hustle and have a hunger for the ball. Jeff Adrien as a freshman was grossly undersized, but voracious on the glass.
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You are certainly right, I was referring to technique. Kevin Jones is skilled at boxing out, even though he is not the highest jumper on the court. I think AD relies on his height and jumping ability to garner rebounds, but has not added the skill of positioning and knowing where the 'enemy' is.
 
Kitaman said:
You are certainly right, I was referring to technique. Kevin Jones is skilled at boxing out, even though he is not the highest jumper on the court. I think AD relies on his height and jumping ability to garner rebounds, but has not added the skill of positioning and knowing where the 'enemy' is.
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I also think he has no feel at all for where the ball is going to come off of the rim. If he's near the ball, he generally comes down with it, but it's like he's never in the right place.
 
The ability of people to focus on the negative after a huge, thrilling win just boggles my mind. I swear some people must have been disappointed after we won the NC last year because it was such an 'ugly game'.
 
Excalibur said:
I also think he has no feel at all for where the ball is going to come off of the rim. If he's near the ball, he generally comes down with it, but it's like he's never in the right place.
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The great rebounders have that sense--Russell, Rodman, etc. They weren't the tallest or beefiest guys on the floor, but they innately knew generally where the ball would come off. Not sure if that's an acquirable skill.
 
swami7774 said:
The great rebounders have that sense--Russell, Rodman, etc. They weren't the tallest or beefiest guys on the floor, but they innately knew generally where the ball would come off. Not sure if that's an acquirable skill.
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Experience and feel help to some extent, particularly for someone really learning the ropes like Drummond.
 
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Doesn't matter today. He shut down Kevin Jones when it was important. imo he did his job today.
 
It's a mix of several things that have been mentioned, some teachable, some innate:

1) Aggressiveness and hunger, the attitude that "this is my rebound" (innate)
2) Feel and intuition for how the ball bounces - basketball IQ and savviness (mostly innate, but might come with experience)
3) Good positioning/footwork/box-out technique (teachable, comes with experience if you want to work at it)

I think each of those things matters but, importantly, matters in the order listed. It doesn't matter how good your technique is if you don't give a about grabbing every rebound.
 
swami7774 said:
The great rebounders have that sense--Russell, Rodman, etc. They weren't the tallest or beefiest guys on the floor, but they innately knew generally where the ball would come off. Not sure if that's an acquirable skill.
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Yeah, it's a skill, but fighting for position can be taught. AD needs to sign up for that class.
 
BlueWhiteKid said:
Doesn't matter today. He shut down Kevin Jones when it was important. imo he did his job today.
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That is absolutely true. His defense has gotten much better over the course of the season.
 
Don't ever use Yahoo stats for college sports. ESPN is getting the direct feed from the stats computer on site. Yahoo is usually some yahoo trying to do it off a TV screen.
 
Drummond is an excellent one-jump rebounder. He can snag it, and even go out of his area to get it. The reflex rebounds, or the two-jump rebounds, are where he isn't there yet - partly due to being young and not having the full coordination in his body needed to make the more instinctive plays or gather himself for the second effort. Same principle also manifests itself on offense - obviously he can dunk and can sometimes look good making one move (the baseline spin move into the lay-up has been effective at times, or the quick jumper off a feed), but if he has to go to a second move (i.e. he's cut off on the spin move and tries to fadeaway instead), it's usually cringe-worthy.

Since he doesn't play physical enough yet either, sometimes you can throw your body around and stop other people from getting the rebound until you are able to pull it in.
 
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swami7774 said:
I didn't see the game, but how can a guy as big and athletic as Drummond end up with exactly ONE rebound?
It wasn't as if there were no chances; WVU shot a robust 28 percent.
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I guess my question is.....why didn't you see the game?
 
I believe the answer it quite simple...He doesnt make any attempt to box out. As I said in another post. He has perfected the Gavin Edwards: stand up straight in a group of guys, jump up and down over and over again, sometimes tip the ball but never actually grab it or get into position to do so.
 
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Kid has probably never had to box out to pull 15 rebounds a game before. But it is March, so you think someone would have showed him by now.

I have no idea why Alex keeps getting beat on the glass.

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