Someone calls out the SEC perception machine

[freescooter]

In my opinion the North won the war because of 2 key advantages: Rails and Industry. The North had huge advantages in the amount of railroads and the industries to feed the war machine. The South basically had nothing. Their biggest city was Charleston, iirc.

In part, but they also had the best general. It just took them a while to find it. People forget that Grant had pretty much ended any effective Confederate control west of the Mississippi by 1863.

 

[Santini35]

 

[Dann]

on the sec topic. miss st is expanding like 6k seats with a new vid board and some bathrooms. guess how much? 75mil lol. we could almost build another rent for that.

 

[Kgun7]

That is absolute nonsense. While it was referred to in different ways--PC isn't a new invention--the South's peculiar situation, state's rights, and several others, the fact of the matter is that the right that the southern states were fighting for was the right to keep human chattel. Everything else was window dressing. You don't believe me, how about Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the CSA then comparing the US Constitution with that of the Conferacy:
"Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition." It wasn't until AFTER the Civil War that the idea that it was fought for other issues was brought forward.

That was the cornerstone of the Confederate Government. Not taxes. Not trade, nor States' rights. Slavery. The rest, as I said, was window dressing.

Agree with scooter here ... the only states rights the CSA were fighting for was the right to own slaves.

 

[UConnDan97]

I think it's time for Santini to show us the "after" photo of that boat in front of the big tanker...

 

[Jaichim24]

Have you ever asked yourself, how, basically just after Lincolns election the whole country was ready to go to war? How could Lincoln have so profound affect? Wanting to fight and kill another person just doesn't happen in a day or month. If you're really curious as to why or how Lincoln was able to foster an environment where the entire country went to war, read up about the Hartford Wide Awake's movement. It was a grass roots movement started by 5 young dry goods clerks in Hartford (who were members of the newly founded republican party) that turned out to be one of the most successful grass root movements in our country's history. On the one side you had young men, dressing in para military type uniforms, marching with torches to meetings, and giving each other military type ranks and positions within the movement. (part of it was the ladies fancied it) Do you think if someone tried to do that now a days it would be allowed? Ruby Ridge anyone? These demonstrations grew, and caused fear in the south. So the north riled themselves up, the south was fearful of "those wide awakes". So by the time Lincoln was elected the country and it's youth were primed.

Check out this link for a better description of how 5 drygoods clerks from good old Hartford Connecticut contributed to the Civil War.

http://www.journalofamericanhistory.org/projects/lincoln/contents/grinspan.html

The militarism of the Wide Awakes helps explain how the election of Lincoln sparked the Civil War. Historians have long pondered the missing link between the complex politics of the 1850s and the war. It is difficult to believe that the Civil War could have erupted as a popular conflict—with hundreds of thousands of excited volunteers—unless political debates were transformed into larger cultural motivators. The Wide Awakes enabled that transformation. The movement’s dangerous use of militarism for political purposes unintentionally bled into powerful cultural agitation that terrified southerners. Young northerners equipped with uniforms and torches sent an ominous message to those already apprehensive about the Republican party’s antisouthern attitudes. While certainly not a cause of the war, the Wide Awakes’ presence ratcheted up sectional pressure and invested Lincoln’s election with weighty significance. Understanding how the organization worked helps connect the political and military campaigns.

 

[Carl Spackler]

A lot of history in CT.

 

[RedSoloCup]

A lot of history in CT.

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