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Some pretty blunt assessments from Jim Mora

If you haven't listened to the Coach's show this week then you might check it out. It's in the third segment after a pretty cool part on the virtues of our Gordon "Gordie" Sammis,

So Mike Crispino asks this softball question about how it was so great because we schedule Duke 4 times and we have Wake and UAB and other schools on the schedule.

I am pretty sure Crispino expects the stock "Yeah AD Dave is doing a great job bla bla bla".

Instead, Mora goes off on a semi-rant. Paraphrasing: , "Recruits don't care about that, they don't care who we play, they don't care about facilities, they do care about conferences, which is the other thing that is killing us at the moment. What recruits care about is money. What we need is money."

So then genius Crispino says "You mean NIL money?" As if there is another kind of money that Coach could possibly talking about.

Mora says yeah NIL Money. And if we don't get that going then we won't get better players and you can see some tough days ahead.

And then he caps it off with "It works the same way in basketball"

I think it's interesting because the people here on the BY have always held these unfounded beliefs that scheduling "name" opponents helps us recruit (when it clearly does not). And while we may have above par on campus facilities that really doesn't count for much.

Mora of course has no filter. But he is not wrong.
I didn’t hear it but yeah. Mora has been out recruiting. He KNOWS what matters. For those of you who love independence and playing 6 P5 teams a year, listen to the guy who is trying to deliver.
 
My daughter goes there. I know I pay $5K or so for an athletic fee.

Great football tradition. Very solid program that was more than ready to compete at next level. Looking forward to the game in a few weeks.

Finally a game I can’t lose. Head and wallet will root for JMU, heart is with Huskies.

5K a year for Sun Belt Sports!
 
I would be much more receptive to this type of analysis from the coach on our situation if we were beating the G5 schools on our schedule.

This just seems like an poor excuse after all the hype they built up around this program going into this year.

Him and his staff dropped the ball by letting this team get off to a 0-5 start and losing all momentum they built off last season.

Start the season 4-2 and I bet they’d be in a much better spot to attract NIL money from donors…
Ok sure. But if the money people spoke up during the whole b12 thing maybe we wouldn't be independent next year.

We all know it's cart and horse but if you're interested in uconn football and uconn athletics and you have big pockets at some point its on you for not stepping up.

Do I know the money didn't step up in August and July and make phone calls to Benedict and yomark? No. But it makes one curious.

Now others. Sure. They only want uconn for mutual advertising. Those dollars are on mora's rough start. But the big dollars? I think they don't exist but if they were man were they really quiet. The program makers were dead silent
 
To paraphrase Homer Simpson, "Money - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."

We need more money for NIL, coaches' salaries, and facilities. I have not seen the data, but I suspect their is a strong positive correlation between football investment and football performance.

What can we do?
  • Donate to NIL (I gave $100 to one of them highlighted on the BB board).
  • Buy season tickets for football.
  • Buy player NIL gear.
  • Buy some crap from the UConn Foundation auction.
  • Bug AD Dave about the need for football spending.
 
It doesn’t matter who you play if you aren’t in a conference I think was his point.
Exactly. Play in a conference…almost any conference although prefer a major one, and win and people notice. Sorry. They just do. You want to talk James Madison? Look who they played? 1 ACC game against a really bad Virginia team they beat by a point. But they are at or near the Top 25. Look at Tulane. TULANE. Remember when you guys all whined about being in a league with Tulane? Lost to Mississippi but are 5-1 with Memphis maybe as their next biggest win. But they are 5-1 and ranked. That is how it works. You win and people care. You get noticed.
 
Mora's gonna leave? He is 1-5 right now. Who do you think will hire him after we win 3 games this year? I ask that even as a big time Mora supporter.
Any team that can see that he recruited well at a school with zero support, no conference, and little to no NIL support. If I'm a G5 school and I see what he did with this left for dead program last year, and the level of recruits he has been able to bring in this year, I'm hiring him. Name value also carries weight as well as NFL experience. 1-5 is one season. There are plenty of things he can point to for why things were going down hill. He seemed to lay a lot of it out in his truthful rant.
 
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Ok sure. But if the money people spoke up during the whole b12 thing maybe we wouldn't be independent next year.

We all know it's cart and horse but if you're interested in uconn football and uconn athletics and you have big pockets at some point its on you for not stepping up.

Do I know the money didn't step up in August and July and make phone calls to Benedict and yomark? No. But it makes one curious.

Now others. Sure. They only want uconn for mutual advertising. Those dollars are on mora's rough start. But the big dollars? I think they don't exist but if they were man were they really quiet. The program makers were dead silent
I don’t know that $1 billion in a NIL fund would have changed the Big12 decision. It appears clear they used us as a stalking horse to get the 4 corner schools.

The fact that Yorkman has since said any talks about adding UConn are dead pretty much confirms that.
 
There is no reason why we cannot be in the mix to be a top G5 team nationally. We need to get better quickly.
As many folks that were downplaying G5 affiliation (for football only) on this board, amongst others... I'm sure those conferences payed attention to what we was being written here at some point... and probably prompted those conferences to sour a bit on us... I remember most posters hated that we were in the AAC... And all those schools promptly whooped our tails pretty much throughout our entire time in that conference...

I, for one, would love to see us get into one of those conferences, football only, stay in the Big East for hoops...

Another idea (wishful thinking) would be that just maybe some sort of New England/Midlantic G5 conference can be set up... There are schools that we could maybe bring together into something similar to the old Yankee Conference, but, again, at the G5 level, which would be pretty cool.. It would help keep FBS football alive and well in these parts with all the other schools in the area not named Syracuse, BC, Rutgers... Again that's wishful thinking (let's hope it gets some legs and takes off though)
 
Mora is 100% laying the groundwork to leave. He was probably told we'd be in the Big 12 because AD David Benedict thought the same. Now we are in no man's land with no where to go.
This is also what I've been writing for a while since he called us horseshit. He may not be a quitter, but he doesn't like being a loser either. Right now the team losing conference opportunities, losing winnable games (last week not withstanding), losing public court of perception, and losing the NIL race for football. That's a whole lot to have him overcome.
 
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It was always going to be a challenge and he’s not wrong that he has an uphill battle to fight.

But comments like this when he has already made his fair share of mistakes as a coach (picking the wrong DC, picking the wrong OC, picking the wrong QB1 this year) just seem like a lame excuse.

This team has the pieces it needs to be much better than 1-5, as currently constructed.

I don’t think this is fair, he takes accountability after every loss they have had. Last year we over achieved this year we are underachieving. Splitting the difference and going 5-7 is not where we want to be either. Talking about what we need to get beyond that isn’t a bad thing.

These comments did seem negative but not much really new. He spoke towards the end of last year about needing additional investment in the program. Coaches road show this summer and the season ticket holder event at the rent before the season he talked a lot about nil and needing more money to get guys.
 
You do realize James Madison plays a weak schedule? They play one P5 school, 1-5 Virginia who just got beat handily by FCS William & Mary.

Mora is speaking the truth. If you want to play P5 teams and win, give the team the resources.
Pardon me, correction: UVA beat W & M at home 27-13 last Saturday, First win of the year. At least we beat a true D-1 team on the road.
 
If you haven't listened to the Coach's show this week then you might check it out. It's in the third segment after a pretty cool part on the virtues of our Gordon "Gordie" Sammis,

So Mike Crispino asks this softball question about how it was so great because we schedule Duke 4 times and we have Wake and UAB and other schools on the schedule.

I am pretty sure Crispino expects the stock "Yeah AD Dave is doing a great job bla bla bla".

Instead, Mora goes off on a semi-rant. Paraphrasing: , "Recruits don't care about that, they don't care who we play, they don't care about facilities, they do care about conferences, which is the other thing that is killing us at the moment. What recruits care about is money. What we need is money."

So then genius Crispino says "You mean NIL money?" As if there is another kind of money that Coach could possibly talking about.

Mora says yeah NIL Money. And if we don't get that going then we won't get better players and you can see some tough days ahead.

And then he caps it off with "It works the same way in basketball"

I think it's interesting because the people here on the BY have always held these unfounded beliefs that scheduling "name" opponents helps us recruit (when it clearly does not). And while we may have above par on campus facilities that really doesn't count for much.

Mora of course has no filter. But he is not wrong.
Disagree on the filter part. He wanted some people to hear that the world has changed and if UConn does not change with it, there is no hope.
 
I am at the point that I think if DB hasn’t explored a football only invite to a non p5 conference he should be doing that. There very well may not be any decent options, I certainly wouldn’t expect the mac to take us. But if we’re not at least trying we should be.

As sad is it would be to look at a schedule before the season and not see one opponent we care about, I’d rather do that and play competitive games with a conference championship to play for than what we’re doing now
 
Disagree on the filter part. He wanted some people to hear that the world has changed and if UConn does not change with it, there is no hope.

You disagree that he has no filter?


That’s a take.
 
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It’s pretty simple. All eggs went into the Big 12 basket and the Big 10 came in and screwed everything up. We had no back up plan

Then SMU buys their way into the ACC and we’re left yet again in no man’s land.

The only way to get out of this hole is to buy the talent to get out of this hole. Conference revenues won’t do it. Only NIL and big bags of cash will. Perhaps a creative way to charge more fees from students to fund the big bag needed to buy the talent will. It’s a world of unlimited free agency right now. Want to win? Give ‘em a bag

John Silver posted about this a few weeks ago and was spot on. It’s pervasive in lower level D1 hoops and 100x moreso for serious football programs.
 
I am at the point that I think if DB hasn’t explored a football only invite to a non p5 conference he should be doing that. There very well may not be any decent options, I certainly wouldn’t expect the mac to take us. But if we’re not at least trying we should be.

As sad is it would be to look at a schedule before the season and not see one opponent we care about, I’d rather do that and play competitive games with a conference championship to play for than what we’re doing now
I think the mac would take us..we would be the biggest name in the mac..teaming us with umass and the mac would be firmer implanted in the northeast.. with a big rivalry game .. uconn and umass… and if we both got good which I think we would that would mean more money for the mac
 
It’s pretty simple. All eggs went into the Big 12 basket and the Big 10 came in and screwed everything up. We had no back up plan

Then SMU buys their way into the ACC and we’re left yet again in no man’s land.

The only way to get out of this hole is to buy the talent to get out of this hole. Conference revenues won’t do it. Only NIL and big bags of cash will. Perhaps a creative way to charge more fees from students to fund the big bag needed to buy the talent will. It’s a world of unlimited free agency right now. Want to win? Give ‘em a bag

John Silver posted about this a few weeks ago and was spot on. It’s pervasive in lower level D1 hoops and 100x moreso for serious football programs.
This is all true but the Big 12 was the only basket available. We had no back up plan because the only back up plan available was status quo. The Big 10 surely did screw it all up though.

I think the mac would take us..we would be the biggest name in the mac..teaming us with umass and the mac would be firmer implanted in the northeast.. with a big rivalry game .. uconn and umass… and if we both got good which I think we would that would mean more money for the mac
The MAC would be a decent affiliation but the MAC doesn't want UConn for football only. The only shot might be C-USA but UConn doesn't want it. As others have mentioned, some sort of new Eastern G5 football conference made up of current indies and the better programs from other G5. But that is not a possibility either I don't think because of all those pesky conference regs.
 
This is all true but the Big 12 was the only basket available. We had no back up plan because the only back up plan available was status quo. The Big 10 surely did screw it all up though.


The MAC would be a decent affiliation but the MAC doesn't want UConn for football only. The only shot might be C-USA but UConn doesn't want it. As others have mentioned, some sort of new Eastern G5 football conference made up of current indies and the better programs from other G5. But that is not a possibility either I don't think because of all those pesky conference regs.
This is all true but the Big 12 was the only basket available. We had no back up plan because the only back up plan available was status quo. The Big 10 surely did screw it all up though.


The MAC would be a decent affiliation but the MAC doesn't want UConn for football only. The only shot might be C-USA but UConn doesn't want it. As others have mentioned, some sort of new Eastern G5 football conference made up of current indies and the better programs from other G5. But that is not a possibility either I don't think because of all those pesky conference regs.
The MAC is the least inspiring option. Dare to dream!!
 
If you haven't listened to the Coach's show this week then you might check it out. It's in the third segment after a pretty cool part on the virtues of our Gordon "Gordie" Sammis,

So Mike Crispino asks this softball question about how it was so great because we schedule Duke 4 times and we have Wake and UAB and other schools on the schedule.

I am pretty sure Crispino expects the stock "Yeah AD Dave is doing a great job bla bla bla".

Instead, Mora goes off on a semi-rant. Paraphrasing: , "Recruits don't care about that, they don't care who we play, they don't care about facilities, they do care about conferences, which is the other thing that is killing us at the moment. What recruits care about is money. What we need is money."

So then genius Crispino says "You mean NIL money?" As if there is another kind of money that Coach could possibly talking about.

Mora says yeah NIL Money. And if we don't get that going then we won't get better players and you can see some tough days ahead.

And then he caps it off with "It works the same way in basketball"

I think it's interesting because the people here on the BY have always held these unfounded beliefs that scheduling "name" opponents helps us recruit (when it clearly does not). And while we may have above par on campus facilities that really doesn't count for much.

Mora of course has no filter. But he is not wrong.
And that is why college sports are in real trouble. Jim is correct. NIL is a very real behemoth that will step on and crush the have not. All of them.
 
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The MAC is the least inspiring option. Dare to dream!!
Hang in there. The ACC will need to add in the future, but I feel it will not be the equal of the BIG and the SEC.
 
Disagree on the filter part. He wanted some people to hear that the world has changed and if UConn does not change with it, there is no hope.
Let me amplify this point. It seems entirely possible that UConn overplays their hand when presented with potential opportunities. What Mora seems to be saying, if that is true, is that UConn must accept a less attractive initial period deal if they want to join a P4 so that the long term is assured. What I wonder is does this add granularity and color to the recent past experiences?

At the end of a game of musical chairs, the price of a chair skyrockets.
 
Pretty much us and umass left as independents… I think its time to join the MAC with umass… we would be able to compete with those schools and play for something…Mora sounds pretty frustrated
Mora sounds extremely frustrated. Not sure if makes much sense for him to stay. If we join the MAC I don’t think there is a huge payout for us. If you’re not in a P 5 you’re screwed. We are not getting into Big 10, we’re not getting into SEC, we’re not getting into Big 12, and ACC has made it clear that we’re not getting in no matter who they lose. So basically where does that leave us ?? I don’t think the big East basketball tv contract even pays Danny Hurley contract! Have no clue how the school should approach it .
 
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