Some Connecticut high school athletic directors propose plan to allow coaches to instruct students during the offseason...

[BlueMAB]

Thanks, but I think I mentioned that already.

Thanks, but if I was replying to your post I would have quoted you. And you failed to provide any evidence of your point, which for you is par for the course. Further, picking an argument with @huskymedic over something he didn't say, and the articles didn't say (only you said) is about as idiotic as it gets.

 

[huskyrob1]

Thanks, but if I was replying to your post I would have quoted you. And you failed to provide any evidence of your point, which for you is par for the course. Further, picking an argument with @huskymedic over something he didn't say, and the articles didn't say (only you said) is about as idiotic as it gets.

How so? Use some logic and prove what you say. Back it with facts.

 

[Chief00]

Your argument is pure BS. Amity HS in Orange and Woodbridge, Glastonbury High, and Simsbury High are actually ranked higher academically than many FCIAC schools. The area in between Hartford and New Haven is for the most part a high income area with excellent school systems and is right smack dab in the middle of SCC land. Your argument that Amity, Glastonbury, and Simsbury football teams are sub par because they are not from affluent areas and don't have the resources to field good football teams compared to FCIAC schools is ludicrous. By the same token, Weston High in Weston Connecticut is the 2nd ranked school in the state, the town of Weston is also one of the most affluent in the state per capita, and is in Fairfield County between Westport and New Canaan, yet had not had a good football team in 40 years. Xavier High was once a top football power in the state and economically is an excellent school and draws it's students from all over the state.
Look at Ansonia, those kids parents are not exactly millionaires, yet they find a way to win championships every single year. Your argument that SCC and CCC football has fallen on hard times because of disadvantaged economics is baloney.

I am not talking academic rank, I am talking financial resources to hire trainers, get private position coaching and attend pay camps.

 

[Chief00]

Only in your obtuse world can someone equate film study to a school’s academic rankings in the state.

You keep naming and cherrypicking high end towns/schools regarding family economics - one can go to the opposite end of the spectrum in the “SCC boundaries” and note Hillhouse, Wilbur Cross, West Haven and Hamden.

There is more to the State’s athletic profile than the FCIAC.

You are absolutely correct.

 

[huskyrob1]

I am not talking amount academic rank, I am talking financial resources to hire trainers, get private position coaching and attend pay camps.

Name me one or two of the poorer towns in CT, that have a high academic rank? You don't see the correlation of academic rank and affluent towns? What planet are you people from? Yet Weston, Wilton, and Simsbury have not had a decent football team like forever, while disadvantaged towns economically like Ansonia, Bloomfield and Shelton win every year.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/connecticut

 

[BlueMAB]

How so? Use some logic and prove what you say. Back it with facts.

My God you can't be serious.

I laughed at the argument that Glastonbury and Simsbury aren't affluent. That's not something you disagree with, so you had no reason to even respond to me.

There's a reason I didn't quote you in my first post. I don't want to engage with you, you're not worth the time. Honestly I think you might have a learning disability; because your reading comprehension is terrible. Huskymedic pointed that out with facts, and your response was classic for you. Mocking him by telling him to continue making an argument he never made. Nor one that the article linked made.

Even when people make a point that you agree, with you find a way to turn it into an argument.

Bish bye.

 

[huskymedic]

Name me one or two of the poorer towns in CT, that have a high academic rank? You don't see the correlation of academic rank and affluent towns? What planet are you people from?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/connecticut

Once again... who other than you is talking about academics/school rankings as pertains to the proposed CIAC rule change?

No one here is arguing that affluent towns don't have better school systems.

 

[huskyrob1]

Once again... who other than you is talking about academics/school rankings as pertains to the proposed CIAC rule change?

No one here is arguing that affluent towns don't have better school systems.

Then explain to me why Ansonia, Shelton, and Bloomfield win every year? I don't think anyone is arguing that they are not disadvantaged areas. While extremely affluent Weston, Easton-Redding, Simsbury, and Wilton have not had strong football programs that I can ever remember.

 

[huskyrob1]

My God you can't be serious.

I laughed at the argument that Glastonbury and Simsbury aren't affluent. That's not something you disagree with, so you had no reason to even respond to me.

There's a reason I didn't quote you in my first post. I don't want to engage with you, you're not worth the time. Honestly I think you might have a learning disability; because your reading comprehension is terrible. Huskymedic pointed that out with facts, and your response was classic for you. Mocking him by telling him to continue making an argument he never made. Nor one that the article linked made.

Even when people make a point that you agree, with you find a way to turn it into an argument.

Bish bye.

What facts? List them please.

 

[huskymedic]

@WingU-Conn is right... I'm done.

 

[huskyrob1]

Once again... who other than you is talking about academics/school rankings as pertains to the proposed CIAC rule change?

No one here is arguing that affluent towns don't have better school systems.

Then explain to me why Ansonia, Shelton, and Bloomfield win every year? I don't think anyone is arguing that they are not disadvantaged areas. While extremely affluent Weston, Easton-Redding, Simsbury, and Wilton have not had strong football programs that I can ever remember.

Answer my question wise @ s s

 

[Chief00]

Again, academic rank is not a variable. LOL we are talking football. You go into the hood or even towns like Bloomfield and Windsor - kids don’t have the financial resources to develop during the summer on their own. That’s killing us from a football perspective in CT. Randy will tell you that very directly.

 

[huskymedic]

Again, academic rank is not a variable. LOL we are talking football. You go into the hood or even towns like Bloomfield and Windsor - kids don’t have the financial resources to develop during the summer on their own. That’s killing us from a football perspective in CT. Randy will tell you that very directly.

 

[uconnell]

Then explain to me why Ansonia, Shelton, and Bloomfield win every year? I don't think anyone is arguing that they are not disadvantaged areas. While extremely affluent Weston, Easton-Redding, Simsbury, and Wilton have not had strong football programs that I can ever remember.

New Canaan says hello,

 

[huskyrob1]

New Canaan says hello,

So does Darien and Greenwich, but rich towns like Fairfield, Easton, Weston, Redding, Trumbull, Simsbury, Southington, Glastonbury, Orange, Woodbridge, and Wilton don't say hello. Why? Just because a town is affluent and athletes in those towns have financial resources is no guarantee of a winning football program. There are other factors at work here. That's my point. Ansonia, Bloomfield, Shelton, and West Haven, underprivileged towns with a winning tradition also say hello, so tell me how they manage to win year after year? Even in poorer towns if a kid shows D1 promise he's likely to transfer to a school that can give him that. Witness Taisun Phommacanh who played his freshman and sophomore years at Harding High school in Bridgeport before he transfered out and then signed with Clemson.

 

[uconnell]

Wilton seems to have no interest in hiring good coaches after football coach Fujitani left and coach Guy Whitten who coach a lacrosse team to 20 state championships retired. I don’t believe money was an issue. Just no interest.

 

[huskyrob1]

Wilton seems to have no interest in hiring good coaches after football coach Fujitani left and coach Guy Whitten who coach a lacrosse team to 20 state championships retired. I don’t believe money was an issue. Just no interest.

Bingo!!! It's ALL about coaching, every kid on the Wilton football team could have his own personal trainer paid for by his millionaire parents, but if the coach sucks, so will the team. SCC athletic director please take note.

 

[whaler11]

im sorry when was southington not winning? like before jude kelly?

 

[whaler11]

Fairfield has two high schools and bleed kids to preps. this is an odd conversation for even the boneyard

 

[huskyrob1]

im sorry when was southington not winning? like before jude kelly?

Here are the last two top 10 final state football polls. Do you see Southington, like we use to every year?????

The FINAL 2018 GameTimeCT / Register Top 10 Football poll: GREENWICH is No. 1 for the first time

Each year, the Greenwich football team showed significant improvement under coach John Marinelli. Taking over a highly successful program in 2015 — one that produced eight state titles and 12 FCIAC…

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The Final 2017 GameTimeCT / New Haven Register Top 10: DARIEN is No. 1 for third-straight season

The 2017 Football Championship Scoreboard Two weeks ago, Darien’s football program faced...

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That's ok whaler, apology accepted.

 

[huskymedic]

So does Darien and Greenwich, but rich towns like Fairfield, Easton, Weston, Redding, Trumbull, Simsbury, Southington, Glastonbury, Orange, Woodbridge, and Wilton don't say hello. Why? Just because a town is affluent and athletes in those towns have financial resources is no guarantee of a winning football program. There are other factors at work here. That's my point. Ansonia, Bloomfield, Shelton, and West Haven, underprivileged towns with a winning tradition also say hello, so tell me how they manage to win year after year?

Guessing you don’t realize that Southington ($90,796) and Shelton ($89,250) essentially have the same median household income.

 

[huskyrob1]

Fairfield has two high schools and bleed kids to preps. this is an odd conversation for even the boneyard

Fairfield was a dominant football town every year from about the mid 1950's to the early 1970's, thanks to Warde, Ludlowe, Fairfield Prep, and Notre Dame of Fairfield which also had some great teams back then. Early 70's Warde coach Fern Tetreau retired, and legendary Ludlowe coach Emil Taft (sent at least three players to the NFL that I know of) retired. Neither school has been any good since, NDF is just awful now. Prep manages to still field a good team now and then.

 

[whaler11]

Here are the last two top 10 final state football polls. Do you see Southington, like we use to every year?????

The FINAL 2018 GameTimeCT / Register Top 10 Football poll: GREENWICH is No. 1 for the first time

Each year, the Greenwich football team showed significant improvement under coach John Marinelli. Taking over a highly successful program in 2015 — one that produced eight state titles and 12 FCIAC…

www.google.com

The Final 2017 GameTimeCT / New Haven Register Top 10: DARIEN is No. 1 for third-straight season

The 2017 Football Championship Scoreboard Two weeks ago, Darien’s football program faced...

www.google.com

That's ok whaler, apology accepted.

lol ok they didnt finish in the top ten for two years.

get checked for mercury poisioning

 

[huskymedic]

Hey Jerk, I thought you were done???

Well, now that we’re off the academic kick, I figured economics was a new opportunity.

 

[huskyrob1]

Well, now that we’re off the academic kick, I figured economics was a new opportunity.

Lol. Maybe you haven't been around but Shelton has more empty factory buildings than Newark. Can't say the same for Southington.

 

[huskyrob1]

lol ok they didnt finish in the top ten for two years.

get checked for mercury poisioning

Yeah, and IIRC have not made the playoffs either. 2016 they made the playoffs and hung around in the state poll, even was #1 at one point thanks to the state sports writers, but got killed by Darien in the playoffs. Actually it was the worst defeat for a team that had owned the state poll up until the last game of the season that I can ever remember.

 

[Padutch5]

Boy has this thread gone way off the topic. The real fact is that CIAC is costing a lot of Ct. kids scholarships. Ever wonder why Florida players are so much in demand by colleges? I dont know all their rules, but essentially they play year around and that has little to do with the weather. They play a limited schedule in spring and play 7 on 7 flag the summer.
I actually think there are some other things at work. Due to injury concerns and the rise of soccer, there are fewer and fewer kids playing football ,in Ct., both in the feeder youth leagues and in high school. While soccer and parent concerns do exist in the south in general I don't==== think they are anywhere the factors they are in Ct.
Wealth is defiantly a factor. If you grow up in Pahokee Florida you definitely have a reason to look at football as a way out. I don’t think the same incentive is there for most kids in Simsbury. No, before someone jumps on me, I can’t explain why the same incentive doesn’t seem widespread in Hartford.

 

[huskyrob1]

Boy has this thread gone way off the topic. The real fact is that CIAC is costing a lot of Ct. kids scholarships. Ever wonder why Florida players are so much in demand by colleges? I dont know all their rules, but essentially they play year around and that has little to do with the weather. They play a limited schedule in spring and play 7 on 7 flag the summer.
I actually think there are some other things at work. Due to injury concerns and the rise of soccer, there are fewer and fewer kids playing football ,in Ct., both in the feeder youth leagues and in high school. While soccer and parent concerns do exist in the south in general I don't==== think they are anywhere the factors they are in Ct.
Wealth is defiantly a factor. If you grow up in Pahokee Florida you definitely have a reason to look at football as a way out. I don’t think the same incentive is there for most kids in Simsbury. No, before someone jumps on me, I can’t explain why the same incentive doesn’t seem widespread in Hartford.

Football is always going to be a high school sport for the bigger kids as opposed to soccer which needs agile, speedy, guys who can run all day. At that point, high school football and soccer go their separate ways. That being said, I liked your post, especially your reference to football not being so important to young kids as it was when I was a kid. Back my day, Pop Warner Football was just as big in Fairfield as Little League. Not anymore though, far from it.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

We always called them “captain’s practices”

 

[Bonehead]

We always called them “captain’s practices”

They still run those in my town for girls hoop but in my recent experience, no caches present.

The captains dad happened to be there...