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The local news teaser tonight is a story about elderly fans who are mad about the change as they don't seem to have SNY. Hilarity.
 
They moved over 20k and didn't let CPTV increase their bid. Talk about telling your fan base to go *$:! themselves.
 
I am not downplaying it - I am recognizing it for what it is...nothing new.

They signed a contract to replace their previous contract for an incremental bump. Nothing earthshaking, nothing "historic" (to contradict the press release), just a new deal to replace the expired one. There are no ripples from this deal that will affect anything else, no tea leaves to be read.

Except that the new deal gives it a lot more eyeballs and a lot more geographic reach. This doesn't get us a Big 10 invite, but it does speak to the UConn brand and in time when good news is hard to come by...I'll take it.
 
They moved over 20k and didn't let CPTV increase their bid. Talk about telling your fan base to go *$:! themselves.
According to other posts on other boards, the $20k was not correct. It was over $200k.
 
CPTV was never going to match it. They couldn't. Wouldn't be responsible for them to, either. They're still using UConn to anchor their new sports TV channel (which is the product of some rather clever/brilliant interpretations of broadcast law...it has to be carried by LAW by any operator in the state because it's part of CPTV). CPTV could barely afford the last contract they signed.

This is best for all parties. The games will be on ESPN3, and it gives SNY a very valuable asset:

They can now broadcast something other than the Mets. That's a plus.
 
According to other posts on other boards, the $20k was not correct. It was over $200k.

20k was what the channel 30 news said, it's still an insult to the blue hairs who supported them all along to not let CPTV go back and take another look.
 
What's insulting about taking the most money and exposure? This is more about old people hating change more than anything.
 
I don't think the move to SNY is earth shattering but if women's BB (along with men's BB and FB) can demonstrate good rating and ad revenue for SNY, surely that's a positive sign for the selling of the UConn brand?
 
Trust me, I don't read anything into your posts - you've pulled a lot of out a hat, more out of thin air and even more out of your ass.

I can only imagine the buzz going around the marketing departments of Ford, Coca Cola and McDonalds over this news today. Good Lord, I wish I lived in the world of cotton candy and bubble gum where this television deal was even remotely as important you peeps seem to think.

It's a fine deal for UConn. It keeps the checks coming in. It lets the handful of fans outside the the state of Connecticut and within the SNY footprint see more games. All lovely.

But no one else gives a s***.


Aren't you a Syracuse guy? what are you doing around here? do you have some kind of investment in this website?

The New York Mets are the majority owner of SNY channel, Timewarner partial owner, and NBCuniversal a partial owner, and SNY needs programming to fill the fall and winter and spring months when the Mets aren't playing.

Time Warner and NBC are invested in the success of SNY - and SNY is doing real well, and they're doing well because of UConn and they just paid to get uconn women's b-ball on top of the other sprots. .

BUt yeah - nobody gives a .

Go to the ACC Fishy, and enjoy b-ball tournaments rotating between greensboro and atlanta.
 
What's insulting about taking the most money and exposure? This is more about old people hating change more than anything.

A big part of their fanbase is old people on fixed incomes. Its a big deal to a percentage of them. I don't give a crap if they ever play another game and I understand why they did it - its still a slap in the face to some people who love that team.
 
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Aren't you a Syracuse guy? what are you doing around here? do you have some kind of investment in this website?

The New York Mets are the majority owner of SNY channel, Timewarner partial owner, and NBCuniversal a partial owner, and SNY needs programming to fill the fall and winter and spring months when the Mets aren't playing.

Time Warner and NBC are invested in the success of SNY - and SNY is doing real well, and they're doing well because of UConn and they just paid to get uconn women's b-ball on top of the other sprots. .

BUt yeah - nobody gives a .

Go to the ACC Fishy, and enjoy b-ball tournaments rotating between greensboro and atlanta.

hoo boy, Carl Sparkles, what ever you got coming, you deserve it.
 
Lots of people pay attention to this website. I've paid attention for a long time. I'm convinced without a doubt, that there are several posting names around here that aren't at all what they say they are, when it comes to being an avid fan and supporter of the University of Connecticut athletics and the Big East conference.

The University of Connecticut has treated CPTV with respect and honesty when it comes to the renewal of broadcasting rights that had run out for UConn women's basketball. There are indeed a lot of sad people in CT that are associate with women's b-ball and the historic broadcasting arrangment, but I guarantee you that nobody is unhappy or feels disrespected on how they've been treated.

You've got two posters on this thread, one that has admitted being an employee of a broadcasting company in CT, not CPTV, and another that I'm not 100% sure, call it 95% sure has admitted to having ties to Syracuse university.

Leadership from Syracuse university, less than one calendar year ago, sat in board rooms with leadership of the University of Connecticut and discussed the future of our institutions, and lied, squarely, into our leadership faces.

ESPN? Well think what you will of ESPN and how opposite sides of bargaining tables in broadcasting have been treated.

SNY is a network that broadcasts in the heart of the biggest media market in the world. SNY is a cable channel, that is co-owned by the parent companies of two sports broadcasting entities that are going to very interested in the future of the big east conference in coming months. SNY has invested in University of Connecticut sports, and has seen good returns, to the point where they've installed a new hard line feed into the state, so they can physically broadcast distinct events, and they just bought UConn women's b-ball outright, to go with the lower tier rights they purchased from ESPN for men's b-ball and football.

And if you think that tracking down advertisers to pay for advertising on broadcasting channels is as unimportant as whaler thinks, and that baseline subscriber fees for services are the most important thing to sustained success in broadcasting?

Well then I think you've been engrained to believe that the cable based broadcasting service of ESPN is the only way to broadcast sports.

I am a proud UConn alumni, and I support my university. THrough thick and thin, and when criticism is warranted, I give it. HARD. and when it's not, I defend it.

This SNY deal, and the ability to reach a wide, and most importantly - DIVERSE - viewing audience is a big deal for UConn, and it's something that the Big EAst, can lean on, as we move into new territory when it comes to media relations and our athletic department.
 
Are you really that thick? You don't know who Fishy is and what he's done for the Boneyard?

And as far as HARD criticism goes, the only thing you know about it is that you can give it but can't take it. You constantly call out people for not sourcing their opinion and yet you have no compunctions about drowning us with some of the most arrant, unsourced nonsense. I have to be fair. Sometimes you post some good stuff but you take yourself far too seriously. Quit trying to always be the expert on everything and try just being a regular fan for a change.
 
No one is mad or disrespected other than some of their most loyal fans that is.
 
Carl ESPN starts the year with 7 billion dollars in subscriber fees. If you think anyone anywhere will ever be able to compete with that you are nuts.

Its the most powerful media brand in the world. The other networks have no choice but to be regional and niche they cant compete on a national basis. ESPN owns the rights to every single valuable sports property but the Olympics and NBC loses money hand over fist on that.
 
If UConn ends up in a four team league with New Mexico State, Idaho and Rutgers - Carl will tell us how great it is they have the NFL model of home and home regional broadcasts on Idaho public access and the WB affiliate in Las Cruces.
 
Nothing is quite so disarming as seeing "Fecunditying". Love it. haha.

Whaler, please tell me that you aren't advocating that we should have stayed with CPTV for less money and less eyeballs out of loyalty to small subset of our fans?

They can still watch, just on a different channel (if they have cable). They can listen to the game on the radio. If they have a computer, I'll even help them set up how to watch on ESPN3.
 
If anyone wants to see the power of ESPN in numbers, check out their corporate parents earnings yesterday (Disney). It isnt ABC that drives their earnings.....it isnt the movies.....not the theme parks......the single biggest contributor to Disney's bottom line is ESPN.

That is the kind of bat ESPN swings out there, they are driving a company like Disney.
 
What tier is SNY carried on throughout Connecticut? If it is like NESN in Massachusetts, as long as you have cable, I believe you have NESN. Now, as someone with elderly family on a fixed income, I understand not everyone will have the same access as before but college hoops is a brand and a business and is about making $
 
I honestly dont care what they do. If they think taking the extra money is worth sticking a portion of the fanbase in the eye over then its fine with me. You just have to realize that is what they did.

If I was one of those geezers I'd be pissed - I understand they aren't valuable from a marketing standpoint, but they are the ones sitting through the 93-36 blowouts all year.
 
http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2012/05...ll/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Make what you will of this info. I was going to type a long thing, but just erased it all. Just understand that UConn sports - women's, men's bball and football now has cross sectional opportunity to reach 13.7 million television sets with live sports programming in the CT, NY, NJ, and eastern PA region, and the tier 1, primetime scheduling slots for all of those sets for each sport are up for sale in a few months if ESPN can't provide the same primetime scheduling opportunities and tries to put big east football on tuesdays and wednesdays.

And - that the situation that involves television sets in our region, is the same scheduling situation for prime time slots that exists in a variety of Big East markets.

Some of the powers that be may have wanted the big east weakened a year ago, and they're going to be pushing every inch of the propoganda machine they can as well, in coming months - and that propoganda machine is powerful.......

But thing about propoganda, is that it's just propoganda, and it defeats it's own purpose in the face of knowledge.

Ignore everything you read, hear or see, in the media about the business of big east athletics from now until a TV deal is done, unless you can source the info credibly, directly quoted from university officials, that will have to be accountable for their words and actions.

Trust, loyalty, honor. These words still mean something in this world.


doesn't SNY know UConn athletics is toast? they we'll be playing with UMass & Buffalo & Delaware soon?

what are they thinking?

:)
 
I honestly dont care what they do. If they think taking the extra money is worth sticking a portion of the fanbase in the eye over then its fine with me. You just have to realize that is what they did.

If I was one of those geezers I'd be pissed - I understand they aren't valuable from a marketing standpoint, but they are the ones sitting through the 93-36 blowouts all year.


Well, to contradict misinformation, and for any geezers that might be reading.....

SNY is available on all basic tier systems broadcasting in CT. Here are the systems and channels. Good rule of thumb, not necessarily true, but if you can find the Yankees on TV on your system right now, you'll also be able to find the Mets somewhere, which also means you'll be able to see UConn Women's b-ball without changing a thing.

http://web.sny.tv/about/subscribe.jsp?state=ct

The bidding process for a broadcast contract for the University of Connecticut is subject to the laws of the state of CT for any contract provider of service involving state owned property or activity. The bidding process for this contract, was done in accordance with state law, and frankly, some of the things that channel 30 has reported, adn the CPTV CEO has said, are completely out of context, flat wrong, and misguided, if certain phone calls and requests were returned and entertained by UConn for CPTV, we'd be in violation of state law regarding the bidding of contracts for state services, and the decision about choosing a provider was approximately 40% about the money, and 60% other factors.

There was a 100 point system, that was clearly laid out in the bidding process, such that a committee of UConn leadership would award points to contract bids that came in and the highest point total would be awarded the contract.

In that point system, the monetary value of the contract, was only a part of the point system.

CPTV raised a baby for 18 years, and that baby grew up and is not too big for their house....and it's an important part of the UConn athletic department, and the entire University moving forward and also for the future of the University in conference relations. CPTV has been planning for life with out UConn women's b-ball for several years.



All of this info I've written, is available to anyone with an internet link.
 
If these are SNY produced broadcasts, why the hell would they be on ESPN3? The mens games are because it is licensed through ESPN, but this does not seem to be the case with the womens deal.
 
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