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OT: Slightly OT: Kalkbrenner kinda stinks

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This guy is not only severely overrated, he’s just kinda there.

He gets some blocks in help D and he has some skill, he’s not BAD of course, he’s just never ever ever been impressive.
 
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They ran nothing for him down low. Creighton was junk on offense tonight, with seemingly no plan. Oregon is like 70th on D. This should have been a pounding.
 
Gutter King said:
They ran nothing for him down low. Creighton was junk on offense tonight, with seemingly no plan. Oregon is like 70th on D. This should have been a pounding.
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He’s not really a guy you’re going to be feeding the ball to in the post, especially against the size of Dante. He’s great out of the PnR but he has his offensive limitations.
 
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I saw a guy go ball screen as a 7’2 weapon and absolutely never make himself available, never gets big or physical and is pretty soft.

On help D, he’s an EXCELLENT shot blocker but a physical guy like Dante was kinda manhandling him.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
He’s not really a guy you’re going to be feeding the ball to in the post, especially against the size of Dante. He’s great out of the PnR but he has his offensive limitations.
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Oregon had 7 fouls for a large portion of the second half. Creighton didn't drive or pound it down low. It was really poor offense led by a brutal Trey Alexander. You are saying to not give a second team player all big east touches? Oregon with no depth at all and one of the two guys that is carrying them doesn't need to play defense?

It reminds me of that one game in '22 (back when Hurley was still mediocre) we had a freshman Sanogo that was looking like he was going to breakout but we didn't feed him the ball in the last 11 minutes and ended up losing. It might have even been vs. Creighton.

There's no way you can say they used him right tonight.
 
Gutter King said:
Oregon had 7 fouls for a large portion of the second half. Creighton didn't drive or pound it down low. It was really poor offense led by a brutal Trey Alexander. You are saying to not give a second team player all big east touches? Oregon with no depth at all and one of the two guys that is carrying them doesn't need to play defense?

It reminds me of that one game in '22 (back when Hurley was still mediocre) we had a freshman Sanogo that was looking like he was going to breakout but we didn't feed him the ball in the last 11 minutes and ended up losing. It might have even been vs. Creighton.

There's no way you can say they used him right tonight.
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And yet they got mostly open threes all night for their good shooters (pretty much all of them). They just missed a ton, even at the rim.
 
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Mr. French said:
He definitely made some big plays. But watching him actually play, every play, he’s not a great big.

I’ll take the crow though, I needed them to win and I clearly woke him up, Dante was eating him up.
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Can't believe they didn't call a T on Dante late in the game when he scored, did the shimmy, and then was barking at Krankmeyer
as they walked away from the lane.
 
Really? This is your big take? 19 pts, 14 rebounds, 5 blocks, 49 minutes. Yes, he looks sleepy a lot of the time and he occasionally lets people score to avoid foul trouble. Has Clingan played a single game with that half that many minutes? He might take a cue from Kalk and stay on his feet instead of going for every pump fake.
 
Mr. French said:
This guy is not only severely overrated, he’s just kinda there.

He gets some blocks in help D and he has some skill, he’s not BAD of course, he’s just never ever ever been impressive.
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Oof :)
 
he reminds me of a smaller Edey, not to fast, good positional[y, finishes well around the rim. Kalk has more range on his shot but takes up less space, As with both it's their size not athleticism that makes them effective & they are.
 
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He’s a roll man, lob threat, rim protector. He knows what he is and excels in that role

Watching him try to do post moves is physically painful, and I’ve noticed he gets beat up by stronger Cs even if they’re smaller (Sanogo, Dixon, Dante)…but he knows his role. And he does it well
 
If the calendar said 2010 or 2030, Kalk and Edey would be locks for the lottery. Unfortunately for them, this is the one time in history where NBA GMs’ misunderstanding of scoring probability results in them dramatically undervaluing centers, as the Celtics acquisition of Porzingis for Smart showed. I expect that to change in the next few years.
 
19 pts, 14 rebounds, 2 steals, 5 blocks.

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The kid is good.
Some may think that Dante dominated him last night with his impressive stat line but Alexander’s horrible defense made Kalk slide over to defend Couisnard on multiple occasions leaving Dante in position to get offensive rebounds and put backs.

Most teams would want him as their starting center. He’s 7’-1”, plays 30-35 minutes a game, defensive standout who stays out of foul trouble and puts up a 17/7 stat line. He’s also improved his game year to year.
He can also come back next year for a fifth year and be more of a focal point with Scheierman and Alexander leaving.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If the calendar said 2010 or 2030, Kalk and Edey would be locks for the lottery. Unfortunately for them, this is the one time in history where NBA GMs’ misunderstanding of scoring probability results in them dramatically undervaluing centers, as the Celtics acquisition of Porzingis for Smart showed. I expect that to change in the next few years.
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Oh god, not this again…
 
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