Sinner and Alcaraz

[superjohn]

How many majors are these two going to win?

Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer all had each other with Murray, Wawrinka and a couple other guys capable of beating them for majors.

It's just these two guys and they're only 23 and 22 with no real competition on the horizon.

 

[IndyLives]

How many majors are these two going to win?

Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer all had each other with Murray, Wawrinka and a couple other guys capable of beating them for majors.

It's just these two guys and they're only 23 and 22 with no real competition on the horizon.

Sinner is playing at Prime Joker/Federer levels and Alacaraz at Prime Nadal levels - both in their early 20s. Barring injuries, these guys are almost gimme double-digit Slams winners. Sinner was converting 1 of 3 match points away in Paris from 4 Slams in a row & possibly 2025 Super Slam. Unreal.

 

[storrsroars]

There's always someone coming up. If Rune checked his ego and Draper stopped modeling and concentrated on tennis, they could both probably make semis and/or finals fairly regularly. And there's always that wild card who does well on one surface but not others, like Nadal was for years.

 

[jonf86]

There's always someone coming up. If Rune checked his ego and Draper stopped modeling and concentrated on tennis, they could both probably make semis and/or finals fairly regularly. And there's always that wild card who does well on one surface but not others, like Nadal was for years.

I’m nitpicking but nadal was excellent on every surface pretty much right from the start. He was just otherworldly on clay

 

[Mike Honcho]

Sinner is playing at Prime Joker/Federer levels and Alacaraz at Prime Nadal levels - both in their early 20s. Barring injuries, these guys are almost gimme double-digit Slams winners. Sinner was converting 1 of 3 match points away in Paris from 4 Slams in a row & possibly 2025 Super Slam. Unreal.

100% agree but Sinner was down two sets to Dmitrov in the round of 16 before his opponent tore his pec and had to withdraw. His earned this title but also benefitted from a little luck along the way.

Sinner, who will face Novak Djokovic in the semifinals on Friday, said after the match that, "I don't take this as a win at all."

 

[IndyLives]

100% agree but Sinner was down two sets to Dmitrov in the round of 16 before his opponent tore his pec and had to withdraw. His earned this title but also benefitted from a little luck along the way.

True, but injuries, fitness, and conditioning are a big part of the sport. I believe each of the Big 3 have had to withdraw from a Slam due to injury in their careers. Dimitrov has withdrawn from 5 straight slams due to injury. So, nothing new there!

 

[Doctor Hoop]

I think I'm just going to enjoy their matches - and they'll meet in these type of finals a lot. Great, explosive tennis. Alcaraz' first serve deserted him today, particularly in the 4th set. Sinner jumps on every opportunity to attack.

It'll be fun.

 

[superjohn]

Sinner is playing at Prime Joker/Federer levels and Alacaraz at Prime Nadal levels - both in their early 20s. Barring injuries, these guys are almost gimme double-digit Slams winners. Sinner was converting 1 of 3 match points away in Paris from 4 Slams in a row & possibly 2025 Super Slam. Unreal.

They're both incredible. It's close but I think Sinner has the bigger better game.

Honestly, Alcaraz didn't even look like he belonged on the court with Sinner through 2.5 sets at the French. Sinner got tentative with all match points and then it was a major uphill battle staying in it mentally which he did but Alcaraz played 10 of the best points you'll ever see to take it home.

I thought Sinner would win this match but I actually had to see him do it. It was a lot to overcome mentally after what happened at the French.

 

[elmoses1]

Fell like it’s been a while but looks like we might have a few Americans in the fold too. It’s been a while (Roddick) since we’ve had an American win a major in the men’s game?

 

[EricLA]

Not sure Fritz has the game to beat those guys consistently, but he played Alcarez really tough in the semis. Shelton is a bit of a dark horse. but not sure I see any guys in the top 10 being a consistent challenge - Zverev, Draper, Fritz, Djokovic, Musetti, Rune, Medvedev and Shelton round out the rest of the top 10.

Then you have DeMinaur, Tiafoe, Paul, Rublev, Ruud... Not sure any of them have the game to win even 1 grand slam at this point... supposedly Fonseca (Brazil) is the next big thing. He's got a huge serve and is only 18. We will see if he can get up there to challenge the big boys...

 

[superjohn]

Not sure Fritz has the game to beat those guys consistently, but he played Alcarez really tough in the semis. Shelton is a bit of a dark horse. but not sure I see any guys in the top 10 being a consistent challenge - Zverev, Draper, Fritz, Djokovic, Musetti, Rune, Medvedev and Shelton round out the rest of the top 10.

Then you have DeMinaur, Tiafoe, Paul, Rublev, Ruud... Not sure any of them have the game to win even 1 grand slam at this point... supposedly Fonseca (Brazil) is the next big thing. He's got a huge serve and is only 18. We will see if he can get up there to challenge the big boys...

Yep, I doubt any of those other guys can win a single major if Sinner and Alcaraz are healthy. Djokovic is still the third best and he can't beat Sinner in a major semis or final anymore, I doubt he can beat Alcaraz anymore either.

I'm looking towards Fonseca, Mensik, possibly Fils though I question Fils will have the mental makeup. Sinner and Alcaraz are going to rack up so many majors.

 

[gsmooth]

I’m nitpicking but nadal was excellent on every surface pretty much right from the start. He was just otherworldly on clay

Exactly. I know his moniker is the "King of Clay" but he was very good on all surfaces. He has 8 grand slam titles in the other grand slams besides the French Open (4 US Open, 2 Wimbledon, 2 Australian Open) and numerous ATP 1000 titles in all surfaces. His 2013 summer on the hardcourts is considered one of the best ever.

 

[storrsroars]

Exactly. I know his moniker is the "King of Clay" but he was very good on all surfaces. He has 8 grand slam titles in the other grand slams besides the French Open (4 US Open, 2 Wimbledon, 2 Australian Open) and numerous ATP 1000 titles in all surfaces. His 2013 summer on the hardcourts is considered one of the best ever.

He became an all-around great on other surfaces, but he ripped off four consecutive French Opens before winning any other major, thus starting the reputation.

 

[Woof 101]

How many majors are these two going to win?

Djokovic, Nadal, and Federer all had each other with Murray, Wawrinka and a couple other guys capable of beating them for majors.

It's just these two guys and they're only 23 and 22 with no real competition on the horizon.

No attack but when did either Sinner or Alcaraz become UConn mens basketball topics???

 

[jonf86]

He became an all-around great on other surfaces, but he ripped off four consecutive French Opens before winning any other major, thus starting the reputation.

True but he won those French opens at a very young age. He got to his first Wimbledon final at 20. He won his first Wimbledon and Australian Open at 22. He won the Olympics on hard court around 22 as well. Meanwhile he was doing this as Federer was in his prime. He was truly remarkable on every surface very early in his career and he doesn’t get the credit as an all around player due to his achievements on clay

 

[dennismenace]

When I first saw the title of this thread I thought it was Sinner and Alcatraz and thought it might be a some kind of narrative or movie about crime not paying.