Should UConn hire Ryan Odom?

[Scrutineer]

2018 NCAA tournament: Suddenly, UMBC's Ryan Odom is hot name in coaching

Great article for the Ryan Odom doubters............

 

[gioff23]

I’m not advocating for him, but this is not a guy who won 1 game.

He was named the winner of the 2017 Joe B. Hall Award, which is presented annually to the top first-year coach in Division I.

 

[JeepCSC]

UMBC has won 46 games (and counting) in his two years at UMBC. From 2010-2016 (7 seasons), UMBC won 41 games. Odom will make some team happy this offseason.

 

[Onions]

UMBC has won 46 games (and counting) in his two years at UMBC. From 2010-2016 (7 seasons), UMBC won 41 games. Odom will make some team happy this offseason.

There is a "ladder" that college coaches usually have to climb. Odom's next step up the ladder will be a mid-major like URI, the same way Danny Hurley went from Wagner to URI. Unless you think URI and UCONN are at the same level, UCONN seems a bit of a jump, for now.

 

[JeepCSC]

There is a ladder, though sometimes you can hop a step. Low-hanging fruit in a major conference could suffice.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I’m not advocating for him, but this is not a guy who won 1 game.

He was named the winner of the 2017 Joe B. Hall Award, which is presented annually to the top first-year coach in Division I.

I’m aware you’re not advocating for him by noting that, but I can’t not counter with a reminder that Bob Diaco won the Broyles award for best assistant coach a couple years before turning a dumpster fire of a program into a nuclear melt-down of a program

 

[tzznandrew]

There is a ladder, though sometimes you can hop a step. Low-hanging fruit in a major conference could suffice.

You can hop a step, especially when you your success is that much greater than those around you. His isn't.

He may be able to hop up past ECU though I hope that's where he ends up.

 

[tzznandrew]

I’m aware you’re not advocating for him by noting that, but I can’t not counter with a reminder that Bob Diaco won the Broyles award for best assistant coach a couple years before turning a dumpster fire of a program into a nuclear melt-down of a program

This is the perfect thing to remind people. Always go with the bigger sample size. You may not be right, but it's a better bet.

 

[JeepCSC]

You can hop a step, especially when you your success is that much greater than those around you. His isn't.

He may be able to hop up past ECU though I hope that's where he ends up.

Enfield went straight from Dunk City to USC. It really isn’t that unusual. The best mid-major coaches are where the upper-half of the power conferences shop. For everyone else, assistant coaches and lower-tier success stories provide a steady stream from which lower-tier power conference schools can gamble on.

 

[tzznandrew]

Enfield went straight from Dunk City to USC. It really isn’t that unusual. The best mid-major coaches are where the upper-half of the power conferences shop. For everyone else, assistant coaches and lower-tier success stories provide a steady stream from which lower-tier power conference schools can gamble on.

How's he doing there...

 

[JeepCSC]

How's he doing there...

I think he got a 1000% increase in his salary on the back of one good weekend, so it could have been worse. He could have gone to ECU while following the ladder to success or whatever it is you all think is the pecking order for coaches.

I’m wondering now if you think I’m advocating UConn should hire Odom. I’m not. But Odom can dare to dream bigger than ECU at this stage. Strike while the iron is hot. There will be more than a few lower-tier power conference schools willing to gamble on Odom.

 

[huskyblooz]

What’s AD Dave waiting for?

 

[tzznandrew]

I think he got a 1000% increase in his salary on the back of one good weekend, so it could have been worse. He could have gone to ECU while following the ladder to success or whatever it is you all think is the pecking order for coaches.

I’m wondering now if you think I’m advocating UConn should hire Odom. I’m not. But Odom can dare to dream bigger than ECU at this stage. Strike while the iron is hot.

So, great for him, but not so great for the school who hired him.

Are we a fan of Ryan Odom or of UConn?

 

[tzznandrew]

What’s AD Dave waiting for?

LOL

This board is the worst.

 

[storrsroars]

There is a "ladder" that college coaches usually have to climb. Odom's next step up the ladder will be a mid-major like URI, the same way Danny Hurley went from Wagner to URI. Unless you think URI and UCONN are at the same level, UCONN seems a bit of a jump, for now.

Andy Enfield had only two years at FGCU (only one with a winning record) before going to USC. Five years there, two appearances in the dance (1st round and 2nd round exits). This year in NIT despite 2nd place finish in PAC12. Certainly better last three seasons than KO.

 

[tzznandrew]

Andy Enfield had two years at FGCU (only one with a winning record) and went right to blue blood UCLA.

USC. And, again, look at his record there.

 

[JeepCSC]

I’m a fan of not believing that there is a defined route to better jobs and that Odom has to take an ECU situation before he looks higher. He’s almost the very definition of a calculated risk that is the best hope for bottom-dwellers in power conferences.

 

[Rocktheworld]

What’s AD Dave waiting for?

Not waiting

Just monitoring the situation for now

 

[tzznandrew]

I’m a fan of not believing that there is a defined route to better jobs and that Odom has to take an ECU situation before he looks higher. He’s almost the very definition of a calculated risk that is the best hope for bottom-dwellers in power conferences.

Which, to be fair, isn't us. So I don't know why someone brought him up.

 

[storrsroars]

USC. And, again, look at his record there.

Corrected, to right school with performance over his five years. I've had Howland returning to Pitt on my mind, thus the UCLA slip.

 

[JeepCSC]

Which, to be fair, isn't us. So I don't know why someone brought him up.

I agree. I was merely arguing that Odom’s next job need not be a mid-major. He will have a lot of offers from a lot of places. UConn shouldn’t be one of them just given where you want to be. But a lot of schools don’t have such lofty aspirations. Beating the #1 team in the tourney would be talked about at a place like Vanderbilt for generations.