Should the NCAA selection shows happen anyway?

[Plebe]

Some chatter developing along these lines, as a way of celebrating the teams that would've made it in.



What do y'all think?

 

[Zanzman]

Sure gives chat room and sports radio more to talk about no harm

 

[UcMiami]

What about all the conferences that didn't start or complete their tournaments. I had money on Oklahoma beating Baylor and taking the Big 12 crown.

Teams had the recognition of their regular season records and some had their tournament performances. Are we really going to do a selection show for a nonexistent tournament? Going to set up cameras to show team reactions?

Let Creme have his day and just use his final bracket - does the committee really want to spend the 36 hours or whatever they spend create the brackets? And are you going to do it in person or have them do major teleconferences?

 

[eebmg]

I would find that very depressing and probably all the players too.

 

[Plebe]

What about all the conferences that didn't start or complete their tournaments. I had money on Oklahoma beating Baylor and taking the Big 12 crown.

Teams had the recognition of their regular season records and some had their tournament performances. Are we really going to do a selection show for a nonexistent tournament? Going to set up cameras to show team reactions?

Let Creme have his day and just use his final bracket - does the committee really want to spend the 36 hours or whatever they spend create the brackets? And are you going to do it in person or have them do major teleconferences?

It certainly gets thorny in the details.

The Ivy League was the first to cancel its tournaments several days ago, and they awarded their automatic bid to the regular-season champs.

Similarly, the ACC, after canceling its MBB tournament today, awarded its championship trophy to regular-season leader Florida State.

FSU awarded in surreal ceremony after ACC cancels tournament

FSU basketball is named ACC Champion after conference tournament is cancelled

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The same can be done for any conference that didn't complete its tournament. Award the auto bid to the tournament #1 seed or, if that team had already lost (as Central Michigan in the MAC), to the highest remaining seed. Yes, I'm sure Oklahoma WBB will be devastated because they were poised to win 4 games in 4 days.

Needless to say, the bracket would be different than it would have been without the cancellations -- especially on the men's side, were none of the major conferences had finished tournament play.

But ... between a flawed and arguably pointless selection show and nothing, I still think I'll take the flawed and arguably pointless option.

 

[Ron and Vida]

Sure gives chat room and sports radio more to talk about no harm

And a chance to recover maybe 0.1% of the money they lost from March Madness

 

[Plebe]

And a chance to recover maybe 0.1% of the money they lost from March Madness

Hey if they don't want to take the money, I will

 

[and one]

@Plebe, I understand the urge to want to see how the brackets would have been filled in and the exercise might not be flawed but it would not be arguably pointless, it would be absolutely, totally pointless. And very weird.

 

[Plebe]

@Plebe, I understand the urge to want to see how the brackets would have been filled in and the exercise might not be flawed but it would not be arguably pointless, it would be absolutely, totally pointless. And very weird.

Well, I say 'arguably' only because many coaches are arguing that it would serve a useful purpose of recognizing the teams that would've made it in. So while you and many others feel it's totally pointless, others are clearly arguing to the contrary ... hence 'arguably'.

 

[UcMiami]

Most of the teams that would have made it know already. The few bubble teams that would make it and the ones that would not can all happy claim that they are sure they would have made it had the bracket been completed - why disappoint half of them?

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Somebody must have a contract incentive bonus.

 

[JordyG]

@Plebe, I understand the urge to want to see how the brackets would have been filled in and the exercise might not be flawed but it would not be arguably pointless, it would be absolutely, totally pointless. And very weird.

Weird, sad, disappointing and pointless.

 

[and one]

Well, I say 'arguably' only because many coaches are arguing that it would serve a useful purpose of recognizing the teams that would've made it in. So while you and many others feel it's totally pointless, others are clearly arguing to the contrary ... hence 'arguably'.

Point taken. For me it is hard enough to have to realize that there will be no tournament without having to be reminded of what might have been.

 

[Bama fan]

Well, I say 'arguably' only because many coaches are arguing that it would serve a useful purpose of recognizing the teams that would've made it in. So while you and many others feel it's totally pointless, others are clearly arguing to the contrary ... hence 'arguably'.

Just because some people may be arguing, it does not necessarily follow that their arguments are valid. I wish that people could realize that just because an idea pops into their consciousness, said idea does not have to see the light of day. To paraphrase the WaPO motto, inanity should die in darkness.

 

[Plebe]

Somebody must have a contract incentive bonus.

Good point. Hadn’t thought of that angle.

 

[bballnut90]

Nah kind of a waste to actually do seedings IMO. I do hope they give out AA honors and Sabrina gets her POY awards though. Would be a shame for so many great seasons to go unrecognized and miss out on individual hardware that has been earned and deserves praise.

 

[Checkmate 2.0]

Somebody must have a contract incentive bonus.

Almost every coach has incentives in their contract. Which ones under the current circumstances have the audacity to try to collect?

 

[FridaFriend]

They should have the selection show if only because it would show that Notre Dame did not make the tournament.

 

[hoopsfan22]

The selection show is based on the NCAA seedings. The NCAA will not be doing seedings for a tournament that's not going to happen, so how would you have a show? I guess you could do it but rename it to the Charlie Creme Show.

 

[JordyG]

The selection show is based on the NCAA seedings. The NCAA will not be doing seedings for a tournament that's not going to happen, so how would you have a show? I guess you could do it but rename it to the Charlie Creme Show.

...and you don't have a selection show with seedings, and you don't have a tournament, how is possible to say anyone didn't make the Final Four of a tournament that didn't happen?

 

[Plebe]

The selection show is based on the NCAA seedings. The NCAA will not be doing seedings for a tournament that's not going to happen, so how would you have a show? I guess you could do it but rename it to the Charlie Creme Show.

This isn’t really true. The selection committee could do the seedlings and bracket just as they did for the reveals, except with all 64 teams instead of only 16. I’m not talking about ESPN doing the bracket.

 

[militarydog]

OR...we could have a Boneyard selection show where we let our members vote to create a bracket then figure out some way to go through the rounds to crown an eventual national championship. Creating the bracket would be easy enough by setting rules for the automatic bids and then voting. Figuring out a way to advance would be tougher. Of course we have nothing better to do over the next month.

 

[UcMiami]

This isn’t really true. The selection committee could do the seedlings and bracket just as they did for the reveals, except with all 64 teams instead of only 16. I’m not talking about ESPN doing the bracket.

The NCAA is going to run a huge deficit this year without all the March Madness money coming into their coffers. Having them pay the committee to gather for this weekend and put in the hours to do their deliberations in that situations is not going to happen.

Most of the incentives re NCAAs I have seen start with one fee for making the tournament and escalating fees for advancement through the rounds. I suspect most of the coaches that clearly performed well enough to be shoe-ins for the tournament will probably get the first participation fee, but not the escalators.

 

[and one]

Nah kind of a waste to actually do seedings IMO. I do hope they give out AA honors and Sabrina gets her POY awards though. Would be a shame for so many great seasons to go unrecognized and miss out on individual hardware that has been earned and deserves praise.

There is no reason why POY and AA shouldn't be awarded.