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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 3137164, member: 1220"] [B] Pac12hoopfan.[/B] You wrote your response to my post within my post which now does not allow me to copy the post I am responding too. Yes FarmFan was referring to the Inside out passes that Grymek attempted. I agreed with her as I stated in my initial sentence. What I was primarily responding too was her question as to why they had a hard time getting the ball to Grymek and not that much trouble with Gulich. I stated it was for multiple reasons. One that Grymek didn't or couldn't jump. So this would correspond to your statement that the passes had to be perfect to be completed. Yes if they are the type of passes that the guards usually threw. Lob passes require less of a margin of error much as high arching shots do as opposed to shots with very little arch. The guards might be very good passers but they did not appear to excel at throwing lob passes. Their passes generally had no arch and that allowed little margin for error. Many of the passes just went off Grymeks fingertips. If Grymek could elevate even the slightest she could have caught them. If the guards put more lob into the passes then more would have been completed as well. My saying that they were loath to pass her the ball is a result of that low completion rate. As to her passing out. You have to get the ball in position first. Most of the time she was still struggling to maintain control. Often she would have a good position and they hesitated to pass her the ball. It was sort of a catch 22 situation. As to my referring to Tudor throwing the best lob passes- that has nothing to do with the number she threw. Obviously, she would get fewer assists than the primary ball handlers. But just like McWilliams her assist came primarily in the half court sets from passes into the block. Goodman also puts some lob on her passes so she had better results with Grymek as well. I don't need to watch practices to be able to use my two eyes. You still seem to be on this crusade to find justification to discount any post that I make about the Oregon St. program. A self-appointed mother hen to make sure I do not malign certain players. Saying someone does not throw good lob passes is not maligning that player. No player excels in everything. Now I know that both of them throw good bounce passes. I saw Pevic hit Mattie in the post with three in a row in one game of the playoffs. But as FarmFan said the bounce passes to Grymek usually ended up at her knees. They probably didn't adjust to her higher knees or getting the ball that low made it easier for the defense to tie her up. In general, the chemistry just wasn't good on those post inlet passes. For whatever reason, that was a reality. I sort of suspect that you were less concerned with what I stated with respect to Slocum than you were about Pivec. To tell you the truth, I did not use names in my initial post because I did not pay that much attention as to which guard was throwing those passes off her fingertips. I do remember that Goodwin had the highest success rate. I doubt those passes into the post will be much of an issue next season. Less to do with aggression than it is because all the incoming posts are able to jump. Plus everyone will have the offseason to practice lob passes. pivek, Slowcolm, Gremec, Toother. MackWilliams .----- Here are some misspelled names so you can claim I obviously never watch the games or know nothing about Oregon St. [/QUOTE]

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